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Post by Au$tin on Jan 17, 2023 18:18:18 GMT -5
Since when is Miley Cyrus an unknown pop star anywhere? This isn't 2006.
Edit: added the word "anywhere" to appease the "bUt He SaId FoReIgN lAnGuAge" responses.
Also assing that this is the Hot 100 thread, a chart for US stats only, so I'm not sure why that discussion would even take place here.
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Jan 17, 2023 18:19:21 GMT -5
I think Miley's streams might be fake honestly. I could believe she is doing this well in the US, but why is some unknown pop star smashing so hard in other countries with a song in a foreign language? It doesn't make any sense. I reckon there's stuff going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. I mean, that didn't stop Olivia Rodrigo from smashing around the world with drivers license, and those streams were more than real. Also, Miley isn't some unknown pop star.
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Post by Wolfy on Jan 17, 2023 18:20:16 GMT -5
I think Miley's streams might be fake honestly. I could believe she is doing this well in the US, but why is some unknown pop star smashing so hard in other countries with a song in a foreign language? It doesn't make any sense. I reckon there's stuff going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. The Flowers performance outside the Anglosphere is bizarre. I guess it is being directly compared/associated to Shakira and itβs helping both of them there. The song is βfloppingβ in other international regions like Japan (N/A top 200), South Korea (#31), and India (N/A top 200) where the Shakira song isnβt breaking ground either. Yet the song is doing good in random Latin America countries like Bolivia & Peru where obviously Miley has never been a hitmaker. I follow both Miley and Shakira. I saw the very early buzz about the songs on social media. First Shakira exploded due to the lyrics controversy. Since both songs are about breakups, fans started to compare the two and made lots of memes about how they both ended their exs on the same day. This caused the social media algorithms to suggest posts about Miley's Flowers when they were searching for Shakira. They both started to trend together. Given how huge Shakira's song was on social media, that was a very big rub for Miley. Fans listened to the song and liked it. A big interest surge caused the algorithms to suggest Miley more, that lead to alot of people being exposed to Miley very quickly. They liked what they heard and they kept streaming. This might be why Miley is getting big numbers outside the US.
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Post by rainygirl on Jan 17, 2023 18:39:59 GMT -5
The beauty about Flowers hitting number 1 with ease is that there are no multiple versions for sale .. no gimmicks , no remixes or whatever .. good for her !! Proves there are no need for all the tricks if youβve got a good song on your hands
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Post by iHype. on Jan 17, 2023 18:57:51 GMT -5
I think y'all are taking that post out of context lol. He was saying Miley is kinda unknown as a popstar/artist in some of the countries she is smashing in (not in general), and the song isn't even in their local language which makes it more shocking to just perform hugely out of the gate. It's like if a solo Anitta song went #1 on US Spotify out the gate.
I can see why it almost seems unbelievable, seeing as we've never seen a song do numbers in a situation based off of another artist's entirely separate (and different language) song being associated.
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Post by Darkest Hour on Jan 17, 2023 19:03:26 GMT -5
I think that poster means Miley Cyrus is "unknown pop star" outside the Anglosphere/in Latin America countries (hence "a song in a foreign language" in the same sentence). This is in line with what iHype is saying on the same page of thread, for example.
Edit: see the above post.
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Post by firefox on Jan 17, 2023 19:05:07 GMT -5
The beauty about Flowers hitting number 1 with ease is that there are no multiple versions for sale .. no gimmicks , no remixes or whatever .. good for her !! Proves there are no need for all the tricks if youβve got a good song on your hands You mean like every frontloaded #1 debut songs?
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Post by HamedM1 π on Jan 17, 2023 19:07:53 GMT -5
Truly hope this means new music from Miguel is on the way, easily my favorite modern male artist in the R&B industry.
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Post by artistry on Jan 17, 2023 19:12:11 GMT -5
Truly hope this means new music from Miguel is on the way, easily my favorite modern male artist in the R&B industry. Miguel should be a much bigger artist than The Weeknd.
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Post by HamedM1 π on Jan 17, 2023 19:16:51 GMT -5
Truly hope this means new music from Miguel is on the way, easily my favorite modern male artist in the R&B industry. Miguel should be a much bigger artist than The Weeknd. Well I do like The Weeknd a lot and wouldn't say that, I do agree Miguel deserves more success and is often slept on. Granted he is much more of a pure R&B artist than Abel, who dabbles very often into pop territory and pushes his songs to that format alongside Urban. So it isn't surprising why one is much more successful than the other, pure R&B has always struggled on the charts otherwise the likes of Ari Lennox and Lucky Daye among many many many others would be much more prevalent in mainstream music. Good thing is at least the doors are opening much more recently for R&B between hits from Steve Lacy, SZA, Muni Long, and so forth being more prevalent on the charts.
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Post by renfield75 on Jan 17, 2023 19:18:11 GMT -5
Truly hope this means new music from Miguel is on the way, easily my favorite modern male artist in the R&B industry. I love Miguel. Art Dealer Chic was cool but we need a proper new album, it's been waaaaaaaaaaaaay too long now.
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Post by ephelia on Jan 17, 2023 19:36:00 GMT -5
Shakira's numbers have been pretty stable: Spotify Global Day 1: 14,393,342Day 2: 13,692,427Day 3: 12,861,996 (Record 3rd day)Day 4: 10,636,235Day 5: 11,327,164Does anyone know if any song had a 7-day stretch on Spotify Global higher than Easy On Me with almost 85 million? Shakira needs to average just over 11 million streams for day 6 and 7 to beat Adele
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Post by Spidey on Jan 17, 2023 19:42:41 GMT -5
Shakira's numbers have been pretty stable: Spotify Global Day 1: 14,393,342Day 2: 13,692,427Day 3: 12,861,996 (Record 3rd day)Day 4: 10,636,235Day 5: 11,327,164Does anyone know if any song had a 7-day stretch on Spotify Global higher than Easy On Me with almost 85 million? Shakira needs to average just over 11 million streams for day 6 and 7 to beat Adele The current Top 5 is: 1. "Easy on Me" - 84.95 million 2. "Good 4 U" - 84.13 million 3. "Anti-Hero" - 82.94 million 4. "Drivers License" - 80.76 million 5. "As It Was" - 78.46 million
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Post by korbel16 on Jan 17, 2023 19:43:30 GMT -5
Does anyone know if any song had a 7-day stretch on Spotify Global higher than Easy On Me with almost 85 million? Shakira needs to average just over 11 million streams for day 6 and 7 to beat Adele The current Top 5 is: 1. "Easy on Me" - 84.95 million 2. "Good 4 U" - 84.13 million 3. "Anti-Hero" - 82.94 million 4. "Drivers License" - 80.76 million 5. "As It Was" - 78.46 million olivia had one helluva year β¦
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Jan 17, 2023 21:00:48 GMT -5
I think y'all are taking that post out of context lol. He was saying Miley is kinda unknown as a popstar/artist in some of the countries she is smashing in (not in general), and the song isn't even in their local language which makes it more shocking to just perform hugely out of the gate. It's like if a solo Anitta song went #1 on US Spotify out the gate. I can see why it almost seems unbelievable, seeing as we've never seen a song do numbers in a situation based off of another artist's entirely separate (and different language) song being associated. I know what velaxti meant, and I still disagree. Flowers scored huge streams in Brazil for example, but you can't say she's unknown there, Wrecking Ball and We Can't Stop are Diamond certified and she performed at Lollapalooza last year. Ofc, Miley isn't Taylor or Rihanna, but I guess she's capable enough to score those numbers and popular enough for people to know the story behind the song. I mean, it's 2023 (duh), news travels faster, we are all better connected and it's easier for English songs to blow up since a lot of people speak or understand the language (and what is also important, familiar with American pop culture) Neither English nor Spanish are the first languages ββin my country, but Shakira's and Miley's songs are currently the top 2 songs and everyone's talking about them. I wouldn't say I'm surprised (especially for Shakira, one of the biggest artists here) since Miley is quite famous - Nothing Breaks Like A Heart and Midnight Sky were big hits, and it probably makes sense what Wolfy said, maybe Shakira helped a little with WW streams because the stories are really similar. To achieve these huge debut weeks 30 years ago, you had to be Whitney, Michael or Madonna, but Olivia showed us that now you only need a good song with an interesting story - and let's be honest, Miley was at least 30 more famous before Flowers, than Olivia before drivers license. sorry y'all for the long post.
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Post by iHype. on Jan 17, 2023 21:29:35 GMT -5
I think y'all are taking that post out of context lol. He was saying Miley is kinda unknown as a popstar/artist in some of the countries she is smashing in (not in general), and the song isn't even in their local language which makes it more shocking to just perform hugely out of the gate. It's like if a solo Anitta song went #1 on US Spotify out the gate. I can see why it almost seems unbelievable, seeing as we've never seen a song do numbers in a situation based off of another artist's entirely separate (and different language) song being associated. I know what velaxti meant, and I still disagree. Flowers scored huge streams in Brazil for example, but you can't say she's unknown there, Wrecking Ball and We Can't Stop are Diamond certified and she performed at Lollapalooza last year. Ofc, Miley isn't Taylor or Rihanna, but I guess she's capable enough to score those numbers and popular enough for people to know the story behind the song. I mean, it's 2023, news travels faster, we are all better connected and it's easier for English songs to blow up since a lot of people speak or understand it. Neither English nor Spanish are the first languages ββin my country, but Shakira's and Miley's songs are currently the top 2 songs and everyone's talking about them. I wouldn't say I'm surprised (especially for Shakira, one of the biggest artists here) since Miley is quite famous - Nothing Breaks Like A Heart and Midnight Sky were big hits, and it probably makes sense what Wolfy said, maybe Shakira helped a little with WW streams because the songs are connected and the stories are really similar. To achieve these huge debut weeks 30 years ago, you had to be Whitney, Michael or Madonna, but Olivia showed us that you only need a good song with an interesting story - and let's be honest, Miley was at least 30 more famous before Flowers, than Olivia before drivers license. Brazil is different compared to the rest of Latin America in general. Western pop/English pop is way more known and celebrated there than the rest of the continent. There's a huge LGBT-stan culture in Brazil that's obvious if you use social media. Any mainstream Pop star doing these numbers throughout the entire continent first week of South America with an English song is unheard of though. Miley's top Spotify Bolivia peaks: #2, Flowers#48, Malibu #54, Don't Call Me Angel #129, Nothing Breaks Like A Heart Miley's top Spotify Panama peaks: #3, Flowers#37, Malibu #40, Don't Call Me Angel #76, Nothing Breaks Like A Heart Shakira happens to be #1 in all these countries currently. Now looking at the few markets Flowers is doing pretty weak in: Spotify India: N/A top 200, Flowers N/A top 200, Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 53 Spotify Japan: #197, Flowers N/A top 200, Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 53 Additionally, in Africa both Shakira/Miley are struggling to chart on any charts. How come, if this is just word of mouth specifically for Miley, why is she stalling specifically in countries where Shakira's song also isn't being acknowledged? Japan for example, is much more friendlier to English Pop music than a country like Bolivia and they also keep up more with the English culture.
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Post by iHype. on Jan 17, 2023 21:52:20 GMT -5
Also 'a celebrity breakup song attracting attention' makes sense if the name being discussed is actually a big name.
Shakira is discussing one of the most known men in modern history in South America. The chart performance in South America makes sense.
Is Liam Hemsworth a huge name in South America? 0_0
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Post by Caviar on Jan 17, 2023 22:38:17 GMT -5
Kill Bill discounted!
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Jan 17, 2023 22:45:19 GMT -5
Brazil is different compared to the rest of Latin America in general. Western pop/English pop is way more known and celebrated there than the rest of the continent. There's a huge LGBT-stan culture in Brazil that's obvious if you use social media. Any mainstream Pop star doing these numbers throughout the entire continent first week of South America with an English song is unheard of though. Miley's top Spotify Bolivia peaks: #2, Flowers#48, Malibu #54, Don't Call Me Angel #129, Nothing Breaks Like A Heart Miley's top Spotify Panama peaks: #3, Flowers#37, Malibu #40, Don't Call Me Angel #76, Nothing Breaks Like A Heart Shakira happens to be #1 in all these countries currently. Now looking at the few markets Flowers is doing pretty weak in: Spotify India: N/A top 200, Flowers N/A top 200, Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 53 Spotify Japan: #197, Flowers N/A top 200, Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 53 Additionally, in Africa both Shakira/Miley are struggling to chart on any charts. How come, if this is just word of mouth specifically for Miley, why is she stalling specifically in countries where Shakira's song also isn't being acknowledged? Japan for example, is much more friendlier to English Pop music than a country like Bolivia and they also keep up more with the English culture. I mentioned Brazil only because of your comparison with Anitta, which I don't think is right since Anitta doesn't even have a top 50 song in the US, and Miley has a respectable chart history in Brazil. So, you want to say that Shakira is the biggest (only?) reason why Miley is smashing in South America (besides Brazil)? I can respect that opinion, and can agree that it definitely helped to some degree, but even in that case, most people had to know who Miley was. or you agree with velaxti's claims that most of Flowers' streams are fake? I think we learned that everything is possible in music and charts. I'm boring with drivers license, but that song was literally the first song in US Spotify history to surpass 6M streams in a day, and 4 days before nobody knew who Olivia was, let alone think she'll be the one to break Drake's streaming record.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Jan 17, 2023 22:48:07 GMT -5
I wish they did this for last week, that wouldβve sealed the #1 in this weekβs chart imo. Unfortunately, I think Miley is way too ahead in points for this to do anything. If anything, TDE should try pushing Kill Bill to #1 again when itβs close to peaking at radio. Iβd think itβd be able to get #1 around that time barring any major competition.
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Post by rnb on Jan 17, 2023 22:50:37 GMT -5
some of yβall just hate to see woman succeed
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Post by artistry on Jan 18, 2023 0:21:28 GMT -5
Miguel should be a much bigger artist than The Weeknd. Well I do like The Weeknd a lot and wouldn't say that, I do agree Miguel deserves more success and is often slept on. Granted he is much more of a pure R&B artist than Abel, who dabbles very often into pop territory and pushes his songs to that format alongside Urban. So it isn't surprising why one is much more successful than the other, pure R&B has always struggled on the charts otherwise the likes of Ari Lennox and Lucky Daye among many many many others would be much more prevalent in mainstream music. Good thing is at least the doors are opening much more recently for R&B between hits from Steve Lacy, SZA, Muni Long, and so forth being more prevalent on the charts. Miguel has an artist appeal like Prince. And he is capable of crossing genres. He has songs that could be considered pop rock. He is in the alternate R&B category. And has better vocal delivery than The Weeknd.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jan 18, 2023 3:46:58 GMT -5
US Spotify - 01/16/23
1(=) Miley Cyrus - Flowers 3,132,985 (+670,424) (+27%) 2(=) SZA - Kill Bill 2,386,093 (+151,762) 3(=) Metro Boomin, The Weeknd, 21 Savage - Creepin' 1,269,882 (+85,092) 4(=) Metro Boomin, Future, Chris Brown - Superhero (Heroes & Villains) 1,172,645 (+86,496) 5(=) Bizarrap, Shakira - Shakira: Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 53 1,078,529 (+82,873) 6(=) Drake, 21 Savage - Rich Flex 1,032,216 (+37,500) 7(=) Lil Uzi Vert - Just Wanna Rock 901,739 (+15,128) 8(+1) JVKE - golden hour 871,399 (+65,981) 9(-1) Steve Lacy - Bad Habit 848,174 (+35,151) 10(=) Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero 833,665 (+68,119)
SZA - SOS 16(+2) Snooze 742,552 (+57,320) 17(-3) Low 742,449 (+40,509) 19(=) Nobody Gets Me 736,267 (+58,154) 22(-1) Shirt 636,530 (+31,593) 24(=) Blind 570,846 (+27,690) 43(+2) Good Days 436,268 (+26,609) 58(-2) Love Language 389,868 (+21,375) 77(-1) Seek & Destroy 347,128 (+16,197) 79(=) Ghost in the Machine 344,313 (+17,802) 101(+4) Special 313,837 (+21,894) 104(-1) I Hate U 312,784 (+19,429) 111(-7) Open Arms 308,240 (+15,198) 123(-5) Used 297,221 (+16,392) 181(+2) SOS 253,974 (+13,577) 196(-1) Gone Girl 247,041 (+14,088) Total Streams: 9,065,411 (+7%)
Others: 11(=) Miguel - Sure Thing 774,969 (+36,167) 12(+1) The Weeknd - Die For You 773,402 (+56,407) 13(+4) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 766,527 (+78,425) 14(-2) d4vd - Romantic Homicide 761,891 (+43,752) 15(+1) Sam Smith, Kim Petras - Unholy 747,590 (+57,913) 18(-3) Fuerza Regida, Grupo Frontera - Bebe Dame 739,426 (+38,415) 20(=) Harry Styles - As It Was 665,394 (+53,770) 21(+1) d4vd - Here With Me 642,723 (+55,683) 23(=) RAYE, 070 Shake - Escapism. 612,631 (+28,071) 25(=) Sabrina Carpenter - Nonsense 566,100 (+37,987) 26(+2) David Guetta, Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue) 552,968 (+40,518) 27(+2) The Neighbourhood - Sweater Weather 548,097 (+39,024) 28(-1) J. Cole - No Role Modelz 543,064 (+29,428) 29(-3) Carin Leon, Grupo Frontera - Que Vuelvas 535,901 (+16,630) 30(+2) ThxSoMch - SPIT IN MY FACE! 530,367 (+36,159) 31(-1) Hotel Ugly - Shut up My Moms Calling 529,211 (+28,606) 32(+1) Tory Lanez - The Color Violet 516,925 (+27,115) 33(+2) NewJeans - Ditto 514,746 (+33,261) 35(+1) Morgan Wallen - You Proof 511,215 (+46,111) 38(-1) Taylor Swift - Lavender Haze 489,577 (+36,928) 39(-1) Mac DeMarco - Heart to Heart 480,863 (+31,595) 41(+1) NewJeans - OMG 449,038 (+31,222) 42(-1) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 436,500 (+18,583) 44(=) ArcΓ‘ngel, Bad Bunny - La Jumpa 433,448 (+17,531) 46(=) Metro Boomin, Future, Don Toliver - Too Many Nights 428,174 (+22,629) 47(+7) Bailey Zimmerman - Rock and A Hard Place 422,582 (+51,304) 48(-1) Arctic Monkeys - 505 420,450 (+16,987) 50(=) Metro Boomin, Travis Scott, 21 Savage - Niagara Falls (Foot or 2) 415,424 (+27,967) 52(-1) Beach House - Space Song 407,228 (+21,572) 53(-4) Grupo Frontera - No Se Va 405,503 (+15,758) 54(-6) Yeat - Out thΓ« way 405,389 (+14,506) 56(-4) BeyoncΓ© - CUFF IT 400,173 (+17,283) 57(+4) Stephen Sanchez, Em Beihold - Until I Found You [Duet] 399,860 (+38,875) 59(-1) Manuel Turizo - La Bachata 386,951 (+19,444) 60(-1) RAYE, 070 Shake - Escapism. (Sped Up) 384,475 (+18,605) 61(+6) Zach Bryan - Heading South 383,811 (+39,361) 63(-3) Γengo Flow, Bad Bunny - Gato de Noche 375,103 (+11,424) 64(-1) Cigarettes After Sex - Apocalypse 373,656 (+24,023) 66(+6) Tyler Childers - Lady May 370,838 (+35,274) 67(-1) Brent Faiyaz - Clouded 369,990 (+22,733) 68(+7) Meghan Trainor - Made You Look 369,817 (+38,523) 69(-4) Arctic Monkeys - I Wanna Be Yours 367,390 (+19,152) 70(-1) Cults - Gilded Lily 366,408 (+23,577) 71(=) Taylor Swift - Midnight Rain 365,464 (+29,714) 74(+4) Billie Eilish - TV 352,113 (+25,419) 75(+6) Rema, Selena Gomez - Calm Down 350,634 (+29,554) 76(-6) Lady Gaga - Bloody Mary 350,286 (+8,516) 78(+5) Tom Odell - Another Love 344,389 (+28,324) 86(-4) Chris Brown - Under the Influence 335,259 (+14,342) 87(-7) Freddie Dredd - Limbo 333,579 (+10,300) 92(-7) PinkPantheress - Boy's a liar 326,480 (+11,066) 95(+22) Zach Bryan - Sun to Me 320,019 (+38,381) 96(-1) The Weeknd, Lana Del Rey - Stargirl Interlude 317,562 (+15,714) 98(-1) Drake, 21 Savage, Travis Scott - Pussy & Millions 316,057 (+15,650)
102(-4) Brent Faiyaz - ALL MINE 313,334 (+13,660) 103(-2) Miguel - Girl With The Tattoo Enter.lewd 312,934 (+14,124) 108(+6) Stephen Sanchez - Until I Found You 309,873 (+27,014) 112(-1) Taylor Swift - Maroon 308,066 (+23,521) 115(-3) Taylor Swift - Bejeweled 304,087 (+19,561) 116(-8) Taylor Swift - Karma 303,457 (+17,196) 119(-6) PARTYNEXTDOOR - Break from Toronto 301,496 (+17,361) 121(-1) Oliver Tree, Robin Schulz - Miss You 300,244 (+20,444) 125(+10) Omar Apollo - Evergreen 293,757 (+25,924) 127(+24) Gucci Mane, Kodak Black - King Snipe 291,533 (+33,896) 128(-7) Steve Lacy - Static 291,255-279,516 (+11,739) 132(+15) Morgan Wallen - Thought You Should Know 289,119 (+28,878) 134(+38) Libianca - People 288,440 (+44,066) 138(+8) Joji - Die For You 284,269 (+23,344) 140(=) Beach Weather - Sex, Drugs, Etc. 282,859 (+16,761) 141(-15) Vundabar - Alien Blues 282,097 (+5,338) 142(+29) Megan Moroney - Tennessee Orange 281,699 (+36,932) 143(+17) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 280,893 (+27,863) 144(+44) Kate Brown, Katelyn Brown - Thank God 280,050 (+42,530) 145(+32) Oscar Maydon, Junior H - Fin de Semana 279,670 (+37,920) 146(+3) Lil Baby - Freestyle 278,621 (+18,771) 147(-5) Mac DeMarco - Chamber of Reflection 278,247 (+13,667) 151(-14) Coi Leray - Players 275,364 (+8,886) 154(+1) Future - Solo 273,137 (+17,279) 159(-5) Mac DeMarco - For the First Time 270,089 (+13,651) 161(-11) Baby Keem - HONEST 269,734 (+10,302) 166(-18) Hotel Ugly - Shut up My Moms Calling (Sped Up) 267,118 (+6,983) 169(-1) Mr.Kitty - After Dark 264,005 (+18,182) 170(+28) Shakira, Ozuna - MonotonΓa 263,209 (+33,365) 175(+1) Natanael Cano, Peso Pluma, Gabito Ballesteros - AMG 262,208 (+19,917) 177(+1) Tyler Childers - All Your'n 258,881 (+17,266) 179(re-entry) Lainey Wilson - Heart Like A Truck 256,054 183(+16) Morgan Wallen - One Thing At A Time 253,061 (+24,476) 191(=) Fuerza Regida, Edgardo NuΓ±ez - Billete Grande 248,440 (+13,851) 192(re-entry) Nate Smith - Whiskey On You 248,161 193(re-entry) Jordan Smith - What My World Spins Around 248,113 194(re-entry) TiΓ«sto, Tate McRae - 10:35 247,465 197(-16) MoneyBagg Yo, Latto - On Wat U On 246,747 (+6,146) 198(DEBUT) Lizzy McAlpine - ceilings 246,724 200(re-entry) Rihanna - Lift Me Up 246,387
Total Streams for Escapism.: 997,106 (Would be #7 with combined streams) Total Streams for Shut up my Moms Calling: 796,329 (Would be #11/#12 with combined streams) Total Streams for Until I Found You: 709,733 (Would be #20/#21 with combined streams)
Biggest Gains (50K+): Party in the U.S.A., Rock and A Hard Place, I Ain't Worried, Here With Me, As It Was, Nobody Gets Me, Snooze, Unholy, Something in the Orange, Die For You [The Weeknd], Anti-Hero, golden hour, Shakira: Bzrp Music Sessions Vol. 53, Superhero (Heroes & Villains), Creepin', Kill Bill, Flowers
I find it so funny that people are claiming Flowers' success is somehow fake or artificial because this was exactly the same thing I saw some people were saying when drivers licenses all of a sudden became a massive hit out of nowhere. Some people just can't accept some smashes just happen without a mathematical reason, in the same way that some big, hyped up hits from artists don't connect or flop.
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Post by jasper0102 on Jan 18, 2023 4:10:08 GMT -5
Nice to see some 2023 smashes right out of the gate but I'm gonna be so annoyed if Kill Bill gets stuck at #2 because of this lmao If both Kill Bill and Creepin get blocked from #1 then thatβs annoying. At least one has to hit the top or we riot. I would LOVE for Creepin to go to number-one. At the very least it should go number-one on radio before Flowers or Kill Bill do it. I guess the Golden Hour top 10 dream isn't happening after all.
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Post by Future Captain on Jan 18, 2023 4:34:28 GMT -5
I think it's worth noting that even when American pop stars' music doesn't do particularly well in places like the Latin markets or Asia, a lot of people from there continues to get exposure about them as celebrities both from more traditional media like TV or such and social media. I know for one that artists Miley or Katy which hadn't really had any hit in my country for a long time still appear in the TV and prints (newspaper, magazines, etc) whenever there's any news about them. People doesn't always tune in for their new music, but the peripheral awareness is always there and just need some kind of catalyst (a meme, tik tok trends, etc) to be turned into a big or at least decent sized hit.
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JukeboxJacob
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Jan 18, 2023 6:18:52 GMT -5
some of yβall just hate to see woman succeed who?
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Jan 18, 2023 6:21:32 GMT -5
Well I do like The Weeknd a lot and wouldn't say that, I do agree Miguel deserves more success and is often slept on. Granted he is much more of a pure R&B artist than Abel, who dabbles very often into pop territory and pushes his songs to that format alongside Urban. So it isn't surprising why one is much more successful than the other, pure R&B has always struggled on the charts otherwise the likes of Ari Lennox and Lucky Daye among many many many others would be much more prevalent in mainstream music. Good thing is at least the doors are opening much more recently for R&B between hits from Steve Lacy, SZA, Muni Long, and so forth being more prevalent on the charts. Miguel has an artist appeal like Prince. And he is capable of crossing genres. He has songs that could be considered pop rock. He is in the alternate R&B category. And has better vocal delivery than The Weeknd. instead of wishing for a world where The Weeknd has less success than Miguel, why not wish for a world where they both have success?
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Post by seancarter1992 on Jan 18, 2023 6:44:30 GMT -5
#Flowers by Miley Cyrus daily streams on global Spotify since release:
1st day β 7.71 million 2nd day β 9.63 million 3rd day β 10.97 million 4th day β 15.76 million 5th day β 17.07 million
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Wolfy
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Post by Wolfy on Jan 18, 2023 6:55:50 GMT -5
Shakira is probably not going to break Adeleβs record by a tiny bit:
Spotify Global
Day 1: 14,393,342 Day 2: 13,692,427 Day 3: 12,861,996 (Record 3rd day) Day 4: 10,636,235 Day 5: 11,327,164 Day 6: 10,931,322
Total: 73,842,486
She needs 11,107,514 on day 7 to break Adeleβs record.
Spotify US
Day 1: 923,975 Day 2: 1,231,900 Day 3: 1,162,256 Day 4: 995,656 Day 5: 1,078,529 Day 6: 1,175,367
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Post by awkwardowl on Jan 18, 2023 7:21:58 GMT -5
So, is it time to start making bold predictions with "Flowers" at #1 YE? As it was with Olivia single two year ago. Funny that both Olivia's "drivers license" and Bruno's song (which sounds like a "Flowers" sample but hasn't yet been added to the credits) ends at #8.
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