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Post by Az Paynter on May 30, 2023 5:26:51 GMT -5
HOT AC: 15 15 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2117 2051 66 6.705
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Post by Az Paynter on May 31, 2023 5:17:22 GMT -5
HOT AC: 15 15 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2141 2057 84 6.878
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 1, 2023 7:35:08 GMT -5
HOT AC: 15 15 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2153 2077 76 6.808
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Post by dbhmr on Jun 1, 2023 14:19:04 GMT -5
I championed this as a bold lead single choice and it is an absolutely incredible song in my estimation, but it's hard to look at where we're at now and see it as the correct choice. "favorite kind of high" isn't right either because it's such an album outlier and would be a jarring introduction to a divorce album.
Based purely on the live performances, I think "down to you" or "rock hudson" would have been great choices for the lead, or even "red flag collector" to try and maximize Twitter buzz with some of the lyrics.
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Post by musicfan134 on Jun 1, 2023 17:47:57 GMT -5
I think the song choice was perhaps an issue, but I think there were other issues at play here. I stand by my belief that they needed to do more promo for this song from the beginning. I know they weren't anticipating a writers strike, but more needed to happen in the initial weeks. I know her talk show is successful but they relied too heavily on it. Talk show success does not equal musical success.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 2, 2023 5:22:21 GMT -5
HOT AC: 15 15 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2175 2085 90 6.919
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Post by dbhmr on Jun 2, 2023 11:02:30 GMT -5
I think the song choice was perhaps an issue, but I think there were other issues at play here. I stand by my belief that they needed to do more promo for this song from the beginning. I know they weren't anticipating a writers strike, but more needed to happen in the initial weeks. I know her talk show is successful but they relied too heavily on it. Talk show success does not equal musical success. This is a good point, and I amend mine to say that this isn't the correct single choice without a substantial push. It's brilliant (imo) and the hook is there, but it's not instant. I think this could have been one of those wild songs that just clicks but not without work (also a choice that wouldn't work for anything other than the lead or a promo single).
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 3, 2023 8:10:35 GMT -5
HOT AC: 15 15 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2194 2091 103 6.952
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 4, 2023 8:14:48 GMT -5
HOT AC: 15 15 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2247 2063 184 7.042
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 5, 2023 8:49:19 GMT -5
HOT AC: 15 15 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2273 2086 187 7.150
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 6, 2023 9:06:45 GMT -5
HOT AC: 15 15 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2292 2116 176 7.183
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 7, 2023 5:37:02 GMT -5
HOT AC: 15 15 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2311 2141 170 7.210
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 8, 2023 5:30:52 GMT -5
HOT AC: 15 15 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2312 2159 153 7.158
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 9, 2023 5:27:36 GMT -5
HOT AC: 15 15 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2324 2175 149 7.163
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Jun 9, 2023 5:45:35 GMT -5
Watching this song flop like a fish has been so disheartening. I think they should just put it out of its misery and move on to another single to see if they can get something else to connect.
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Post by JJ on Jun 9, 2023 8:50:21 GMT -5
It may an unpopular opinion here, but I think Kelly is not a very good songwriter. This song's lyrics are juvenile and her vocal delivery lacks the youth that could work, i.e. Olivia Rodrigo. I have not heard any song from this record that I think completely works - lyrics and vocals.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 10, 2023 5:36:10 GMT -5
HOT AC: 15 14 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2272 2194 78 6.920
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 11, 2023 9:23:58 GMT -5
HOT AC: 15 14 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2281 2144 137 6.942
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 12, 2023 5:22:41 GMT -5
HOT AC: 15 12 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2306 2275 31 7.029
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Post by dbhmr on Jun 12, 2023 10:38:01 GMT -5
Some on ATRL are theorizing that they're releasing songs not for single consideration before the album and will launch a new single with the album release. If that's the case, I wonder if they're just hoping this hits the top 10 so they can say it did on her core format before launching the next single. There are definitely some options that might be better for radio coming up...
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 12, 2023 21:08:50 GMT -5
It's still got a way to go before making the top 10 on Hot AC, and if they're gonna drop another single along with the album then this has very little time to get some wind back in its sails to get there - more likely if there's another single coming with the album then this is done.
Meanwhile, this is most-added on AC this week with 6 adds so there's gonna be an uptick coming from there.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 13, 2023 11:11:27 GMT -5
HOT AC: 15 13 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2314 2297 17 7.114
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Post by frenchuser on Jun 14, 2023 2:52:12 GMT -5
It may an unpopular opinion here, but I think Kelly is not a very good songwriter. This song's lyrics are juvenile and her vocal delivery lacks the youth that could work, i.e. Olivia Rodrigo. I have not heard any song from this record that I think completely works - lyrics and vocals. Clearly, I wouldn't have used the word "juvenile" to describe her writing, but rather texts with universal messages tailored to her target audience (without any pejorative connotation on my part). I'm surprised by this opinion, especially for the song "Mine" which, to my mind, comes close to what Adele can write for her many break-up songs.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 14, 2023 7:10:07 GMT -5
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 15, 2023 5:33:19 GMT -5
HOT AC: 15 13 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2335 2317 18 7.437
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 16, 2023 5:42:17 GMT -5
HOT AC: 15 13 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2329 2324 5 7.473
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 17, 2023 9:49:03 GMT -5
HOT AC: 14 14 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2315 2272 43 7.543
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 18, 2023 6:29:50 GMT -5
HOT AC: 13 15 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2310 2281 29 7.544
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 19, 2023 7:52:09 GMT -5
HOT AC: 12 15 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2303 2306 -3 7.522
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 20, 2023 6:24:03 GMT -5
HOT AC: 13 15 KELLY CLARKSON mine 2288 2315 -27 7.538
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