Billboard Hot 100: 07/29/2023

[shadowthehedgehogfan]

Jul 18, 2023 1:12:37 GMT -5 neel said:

Jul 18, 2023 0:01:18 GMT -5 shadowthehedgehogfan said:

huh. Eh can't be worse than big fat bass.

Will's done some really good production work in the past. hope thisll be good.

He also created "Boom Boom Pow", "Imma Be", "The Time (Dirty Bit)" and the other terrible BEP hits and other awful club boom hits (like "OMG") of the early 2010s. I thought we all left this dude in the early 2010s, why are we trying to bring him back?

half of those ( boom boom pow/omg) are better than last night. The time is on par, Imma Be is annoying, really annoying, but only slightly worse.
As for other bep songs, he also produced some of their best, also Ferg's stuff, whom i have a soft spot for.

[hitsrus]

Jul 18, 2023 17:29:28 GMT -5 eagle27 said:

I just don’t know why big artists barely release music anymore or even try to get big summer hits.

Who are all these mythical big artists who hasn't released new material in the last 12-18 months?

I am assuming you mean big artists who have an excellent chance at dethroning LN and staying on top and not falling off after a week when the curiosity hype check out the song, has ended.

[gs]

If Drake, you know, _tried_ in the vein of Laugh Now Cry Later, Nice For What, God's Plan, etc... then he could dethrone it at least for 5+ weeks. But he's been serving nothing but duds since CLB

[rainygirl]

Let’s hope Jason Aldean doesn’t start churning out 27 versions of his song and propel himself into the top 5 !
Or worse , an Alden/Wallen duet!! We are lucky Scooter Braun doesn’t manage them

[neel]

Jul 18, 2023 19:59:42 GMT -5 hitsrus said:

Jul 18, 2023 17:29:28 GMT -5 eagle27 said:

I just don’t know why big artists barely release music anymore or even try to get big summer hits.

Who are all these mythical big artists who hasn't released new material in the last 12-18 months?

I am assuming you mean big artists who have an excellent chance at dethroning LN and staying on top and not falling off after a week when the curiosity hype check out the song, has ended.

Oh their releasing, but songs they put out are complete shit.

[shadowthehedgehogfan]

Jul 18, 2023 19:59:42 GMT -5 hitsrus said:

Jul 18, 2023 17:29:28 GMT -5 eagle27 said:

I just don’t know why big artists barely release music anymore or even try to get big summer hits.

Who are all these mythical big artists who hasn't released new material in the last 12-18 months?

I am assuming you mean big artists who have an excellent chance at dethroning LN and staying on top and not falling off after a week when the curiosity hype check out the song, has ended.

the real question is "why is morgan wallen the only one who's gaming the system?'

[rainygirl]

CMT pulled that Jason Aldean video off the airwaves and he issued some b**tch statement as he downplayed everything of course . Once they’re called out they never own that shit !!

[jasper0102]

Jul 18, 2023 12:21:12 GMT -5 lazer said:

Despite the Barbie Movie coming out, I think NewJeans will have the biggest impact this Friday.

I won’t be surprised if they do tbh.

Jul 18, 2023 12:36:53 GMT -5 kindofbiased said:

Feels weird to see Seven's sales numbers trailing Like Crazy's that hard tbh, Seven feels much bigger than Like Crazy did in its first week

Probably has most to do with the website sales getting removed than anything else. I think they’re performing relatively similar Itunes wise (or atleast I think).

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Jul 18, 2023 16:25:53 GMT -5 hitsrus said:

The Hot 100 especially the upper reaches, have throughout 65 years been an excellent baroneter of which way the cultural and political winds are going.

Ah yes, I too remember how these songs foretold Trump's rise



Who could've also forgotten when these songs predicted 9/11 and the Invasion of Iraq. How could Christina have knocked down the towers?!?

[hitsrus]

Yea okay I'll just pretend there wasn't a dominant anti Vietnam War trend on the charts. Just to name one era.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Jul 18, 2023 23:54:09 GMT -5 hitsrus said:

Yea okay I'll just pretend there wasn't a dominant anti Vietnam War trend on the charts. Just to name one era.

That is one era of one specific time period and even then, a lot of badly produced, easy listening listening schlock that was just prevalent in the 60s and 70s has been lost to time so we just remember all the good anti-war songs. Hell, Gimme Shelter, Fortunate Son, For What It's Worth, none of them were even chart toppers.

I'm not trying to say art isn't inherently political or that it can shift culture and mindsets, obviously that'd be incorrect. But more of often than not, what's forward and progressive rarely aligns with what's popular at the time because it isn't really a reflection of the standards and norms. Even artists that are deemed controversial like say Madonna, early hip-hop, and 80s metal are so because they're pushing for what's accepted in terms of what can be said with free speech but it's not like they're the only ones doing so or that it isn't a natural progression of society changing.

Most politically charged material like from Kendrick Lamar, System of a Down, the Sex Pistols, Public Enemy, Rage Against the Machine, stuff actually pushing for change: none of them came close to hitting the Top 50 but because they're popular now and because they align with most of the public.

[hitsrus]

The Letter
Leaving on a Jet Plane
Turn Tuen Tuen
Eve of Destruction
House of the Rising Sun
War

[thegreatdivine]

Jul 18, 2023 20:02:46 GMT -5 gs said:

If Drake, you know, _tried_ in the vein of Laugh Now Cry Later, Nice For What, God's Plan, etc... then he could dethrone it at least for 5+ weeks. But he's been serving nothing but duds since CLB

This couldn't be more untrue. You're probably one of those people who only listens to the Drake songs that spend months in the top 10 lmao.

He has released multiple songs that were more than good enough to take off as long-lasting chart hits. They just didn't, for whatever reason. Everything from Wants and Needs to Sticky to Jimmy Cooks to Rich Flex are all great songs that even though didn't spend a lot of time in the top 10, have great recurrent streaming stats and are hits in their own right.

He's also at the point in his career where no one should really be looking to him to score long-lasting top 10 hits anymore. Taylor is back to getting substantial pop radio airplay and that's a huge reason why songs like Anti-Hero, Karma and Cruel Summer have been able to maintain positions in the top 10. Drake doesn't have that, so there.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Dial Drunk remix debuts at #4 of US Spotify with 1,332,036 (more than half of the global streams actually came from the U.S.). Total Streams for Dial Drunk would 1,905,544, and would be #1 over fukumean

[gs]

Jul 19, 2023 5:25:21 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Dial Drunk remix debuts at #4 of US Spotify with 1,332,036 (more than half of the global streams actually came from the U.S.). Total Streams for Dial Drunk would 1,905,544, and would be #1 over fukumean

Oh wow then it's challenging for top 10 if released with a full tracking week. Maybe Post has finally scored a proper hit this era even if it's not part of the album

[kcdawg13]

The only recent hit songs that actually commented on the political climate of the times was Childish Gambino's "This Is America" and Lil Baby's "The Bigger Picture."

Of course Kendrick Lamar has a lot of political songs, but they aren't hits. Otherwise we got a lot of pandemic adjacent hits in 2020 like "Supalonely," but those aren't commenting on the state of the world, they just happen to be related to an event that happened while they were hits.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Jul 19, 2023 5:37:59 GMT -5 gs said:

Jul 19, 2023 5:25:21 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Dial Drunk remix debuts at #4 of US Spotify with 1,332,036 (more than half of the global streams actually came from the U.S.). Total Streams for Dial Drunk would 1,905,544, and would be #1 over fukumean

Oh wow then it's challenging for top 10 if released with a full tracking week. Maybe Post has finally scored a proper hit this era even if it's not part of the album

Challenging for the Top 10 might be a stretch, even if it had a full tracking week. It's currently only #71 on AM, Noah obviously isn't as big as BTS so it's going to have a decimal of the streams it has, it has miniscule radio, and we still need to see what the day-to-day streams are for the remix. Remember the original Dial Drunk only debuted outside the Top 40 and that was #3 on overall streams on Spotify during it's first week.

[waluigionascooter]

Jul 19, 2023 5:25:21 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Dial Drunk remix debuts at #4 of US Spotify with 1,332,036 (more than half of the global streams actually came from the U.S.). Total Streams for Dial Drunk would 1,905,544, and would be #1 over fukumean

I hope this gives the song enough legs to be a stable hit and possibly make the YE. 
We haven't had one of those stomp-clap indie songs become a hit in a while, I miss them. 

[Choco]

For me Drake has been yielding diminishing returns since Views and by the time he dropped Scorpion it became very noticeable to the point I haven't been getting his usual four or five strong songs on any project since. I don't even think I heard the entire last album he dropped because by now it's clear I'm no longer in the target audience.

I wouldn't discount his chance to go #1 on most weeks though. He only missed with Rich Flex because of Taylor Swift.

[SPRΞΞ]

Jul 18, 2023 21:06:44 GMT -5 shadowthehedgehogfan said:

Jul 18, 2023 19:59:42 GMT -5 hitsrus said:

Who are all these mythical big artists who hasn't released new material in the last 12-18 months?

I am assuming you mean big artists who have an excellent chance at dethroning LN and staying on top and not falling off after a week when the curiosity hype check out the song, has ended.

the real question is "why is morgan wallen the only one who's gaming the system?'

what is he gaming? He doesn't even have a video out for LN. There are no remixes, discounts, signed digital cassette covers, etc.

[lazer]

Jul 19, 2023 9:02:46 GMT -5 waluigionascooter said:

Jul 19, 2023 5:25:21 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Dial Drunk remix debuts at #4 of US Spotify with 1,332,036 (more than half of the global streams actually came from the U.S.). Total Streams for Dial Drunk would 1,905,544, and would be #1 over fukumean

I hope this gives the song enough legs to be a stable hit and possibly make the YE. 
We haven't had one of those stomp-clap indie songs become a hit in a while, I miss them. 

I don’t know if I consider it to be “stomp-clap” indie. I think it’s just regular folk music.

[Darkest Hour]

We are scraping the barrel for hits that some Mumford & Sons type of songs have hype nowadays.

[jasper0102]

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates |« 2023 » / « 07 » / « 19 »

1(=) Rema & Selena Gomez - Calm Down 105.85(+0.21)
2(=) Morgan Wallen - Last Night 95.72(+0.37)
3(=) Luke Combs - Fast Car 85.39(+0.86)
4(=) Miley Cyrus - Flowers 82.96(-0.88) -
5(=) Taylor Swift - Karma 72.45(-0.00) -
6(=) SZA - Snooze 66.91(+0.48)
7(=) Metro Boomin, The Weeknd & 21 Savage - Creepin' 63.98(-0.90)
8(=) Miguel - Sure Thing 58.41(-0.16)
9(=) Ed Sheeran - Eyes Closed 55.00(-0.74)
10(+1) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer 53.78(+2.15)

12(=) Jelly Roll - Need A Favor 49.57(+0.70)

21(+1) Olivia Rodrigo - vampire 35.96(+0.79)

-(-) Staind - Lowest In Me 4.55(+0.77) +

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

[enwhy]

Cruel Summer has a pretty clear path to #3 within the next 1-2 weeks. From there it will need some help though. A remix, music video, or sales campaign would probably do the trick.

[king_billboard_100]

Still weird to me that Ln going 15 week at #1. While there is an option for new music from AI like Drake & The Weeknd, Heart on my Sleeve…

[king_billboard_100]

Jul 19, 2023 10:53:55 GMT -5 enwhy said:

Cruel Summer has a pretty clear path to #3 within the next 1-2 weeks. From there it will need some help though. A remix, music video, or sales campaign would probably do the trick.

With a remix with Post Malone/Katy Perry or other rapper she is definitely going to #1

[Choco]

Jul 18, 2023 17:40:18 GMT -5 kanimal said:

Jul 18, 2023 14:30:15 GMT -5 mms82 said:

That's like saying Destiny's Child, Ricky Martin, Jessica Simpson, Hillary Duff, and JoJo are political Bushites because they performed at George W. Bush's inauguration events.

As others have said, it's a different time. The whole "you can respect the presidenCY without supporting the presidenT" idea is out the window for most public-facing people. It goes beyond music, too - you also see champion athletes rejecting White House visits based on the president's political leaning.

I feel like people forget how much hate Ellen DeGeneres got for posting a picture with George W. Bush in 2019. She tried the respect the president argument to little success (and it served as a preview of her eventual fall from public graces).

[Music Fan]

Jul 19, 2023 10:15:04 GMT -5 Darkest Hour said:

We are scraping the barrel for hits that some Mumford & Sons type of songs have hype nowadays.

YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH WITH THAT MUMFORD & SONS SLANDER. Thank you :)

Jul 19, 2023 10:31:09 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

Do we think Seven is going to have some downloads / streams be filtered out? If so, it may just reach #3??