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Post by shadowthehedgehogfan on Jul 19, 2023 11:59:50 GMT -5
yep. Karma was a bad single. nobody actually wants to listen to someone brag about having good karma.
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Post by velaxti on Jul 19, 2023 13:01:56 GMT -5
It's also worth noting that Morgan Wallen doesn't necessarily have to deeply voice his politics. Because he was "cancelled," conservatives (the people who talk about a "woke mob") are going to assume he's on their side. He just has to keep his stereotypical country imagery and occasionally post one of those pro-America things like he did on July 4 to keep them engaged. Why doesn't EVERY pop star do this? If they did maybe we would have 5 "Taylor Swifts" and 5 "Morgan Wallens" instead of just 1 and some semblance of a mono-culture again. Seems like a no-brainer to me, at least for the US artists. I think in the past it was standard that pop stars would have to do some patriotic photo-op or interview every year or so. The Hot 100 especially the upper reaches, have throughout 65 years been an excellent baroneter of which way the cultural and political winds are going. Ah yes, I too remember how these songs foretold Trump's rise Who could've also forgotten when these songs predicted 9/11 and the Invasion of Iraq. How could Christina have knocked down the towers?!? The post made me laugh, but it was regularly theorised during 2008-2012 when we had the dance-pop boom that there might be a connection between it and cultural/political events (e.g. people being happy that Obama was President, or escapism after the 2008 recession where people were struggling). If you search you might still be able to find articles or think-pieces on it. I remember reading a fair few, and discussing it on this forum and others actually.
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Post by HamedM1 💔 on Jul 19, 2023 13:06:00 GMT -5
Cruel Summer has a pretty clear path to #3 within the next 1-2 weeks. From there it will need some help though. A remix, music video, or sales campaign would probably do the trick. With a remix with Post Malone/Katy Perry or other rapper she is definitely going to #1 I feel like you just wished Cruel Summer ft. Latto into existence and I don't know how I feel bout that...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 13:06:12 GMT -5
yep. Karma was a bad single. nobody actually wants to listen to someone brag about having good karma. Seems like something someone with bad karma would say. Be better! Anyways, still Top 10 and soon to be #1 on HAC. A hit
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Post by shadowthehedgehogfan on Jul 19, 2023 13:30:32 GMT -5
yep. Karma was a bad single. nobody actually wants to listen to someone brag about having good karma. Seems like something someone with bad karma would say. Be better! Anyways, still Top 10 and soon to be #1 on HAC. A hit yeah a hit. yknow what else was a hit? Girls like you. being a hit doesnt mean a song will have any major impact aside from the charts. Should've read the room and gone with You're on your own kid. or another more downbeat song
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Post by Groovy on Jul 19, 2023 13:43:36 GMT -5
Seems like something someone with bad karma would say. Be better! Anyways, still Top 10 and soon to be #1 on HAC. A hit yeah a hit. yknow what else was a hit? Girls like you. being a hit doesnt mean a song will have any major impact aside from the charts. Should've read the room and gone with You're on your own kid. or another more downbeat song You keep saying Karma was a bad single bad choice but still haven't given a good reason why. It peaked at 2 and still in the top 10 so I don't get how it's a bad single choice. Not every song that comes out needs to have some cultural impact in order for it to be a good single choice.
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Post by shadowthehedgehogfan on Jul 19, 2023 14:04:00 GMT -5
yeah a hit. yknow what else was a hit? Girls like you. being a hit doesnt mean a song will have any major impact aside from the charts. Should've read the room and gone with You're on your own kid. or another more downbeat song You keep saying Karma was a bad single bad choice but still haven't given a good reason why. It peaked at 2 and still in the top 10 so I don't get how it's a bad single choice. Not every song that comes out needs to have some cultural impact in order for it to be a good single choice. because it's clearly not resonating with people. it's mostly radio driven, not een in the top 5 currently most popular t swift songs on spotify, clearly people want more melancholic, downbeat songs. Hence why Last Night and a cover of Fast Car are dominating.
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Post by HamedM1 💔 on Jul 19, 2023 14:44:16 GMT -5
You keep saying Karma was a bad single bad choice but still haven't given a good reason why. It peaked at 2 and still in the top 10 so I don't get how it's a bad single choice. Not every song that comes out needs to have some cultural impact in order for it to be a good single choice. because it's clearly not resonating with people. it's mostly radio driven, not een in the top 5 currently most popular t swift songs on spotify, Girl you've done this same song and dance for awhile now all over Karma, we don't need to be told 13 times about your passionate disdain for the song. Once was fine, twice was good enough, three and more is just beating a dead horse or I guess in this case a dead cat.
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Post by shadowthehedgehogfan on Jul 19, 2023 14:51:20 GMT -5
i don't dislike the song. i only think it's bad as a single. the song itself is just the weak link on a good album, but its still a decent track.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 14:55:49 GMT -5
Seems like something someone with bad karma would say. Be better! Anyways, still Top 10 and soon to be #1 on HAC. A hit yeah a hit. yknow what else was a hit? Girls like you. being a hit doesnt mean a song will have any major impact aside from the charts. Should've read the room and gone with You're on your own kid. or another more downbeat song Umm Girls Like You was massive culturally lol
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Post by shadowthehedgehogfan on Jul 19, 2023 15:03:09 GMT -5
well it did capture the zeitgeist of dullness that was 2018. a better comparison would be Don't Let Me Down
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Post by Groovy on Jul 19, 2023 15:04:29 GMT -5
You keep saying Karma was a bad single bad choice but still haven't given a good reason why. It peaked at 2 and still in the top 10 so I don't get how it's a bad single choice. Not every song that comes out needs to have some cultural impact in order for it to be a good single choice. because it's clearly not resonating with people. it's mostly radio driven, not een in the top 5 currently most popular t swift songs on spotify, clearly people want more melancholic, downbeat songs. Hence why Last Night and a cover of Fast Car are dominating. Streaming isn't the only form of consumption for music
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Post by shadowthehedgehogfan on Jul 19, 2023 15:08:05 GMT -5
because it's clearly not resonating with people. it's mostly radio driven, not een in the top 5 currently most popular t swift songs on spotify, clearly people want more melancholic, downbeat songs. Hence why Last Night and a cover of Fast Car are dominating. Streaming isn't the only form of consumption for music yes i know. i pointed out that its radio driven
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Post by Groovy on Jul 19, 2023 15:10:24 GMT -5
Streaming isn't the only form of consumption for music yes i know. i pointed out that its radio driven But you're making it seem like because it's not doing well on streaming that it's a bad single.
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Post by shadowthehedgehogfan on Jul 19, 2023 15:15:10 GMT -5
well not doing well on streaming does point to people not seeking it out. unlike last night, which is dominating streaming
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Post by rnb on Jul 19, 2023 15:16:18 GMT -5
I don’t think it’s worth giving our time to someone who called blank space and style “ballads”.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 19, 2023 15:16:39 GMT -5
yeah a hit. yknow what else was a hit? Girls like you. being a hit doesnt mean a song will have any major impact aside from the charts. Should've read the room and gone with You're on your own kid. or another more downbeat song Umm Girls Like You was massive culturally lol Only because of its YouTube video.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Jul 19, 2023 15:16:47 GMT -5
"Karma" is in the top 40 on Spotify, lol. Why are we talking about it like it's not even in the top 200? "Karma" is a perfectly solid single choice and it's been a nice sized hit for her. Is it a blockbuster? No. But the vast majority of singles aren't.
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Post by Groovy on Jul 19, 2023 15:17:37 GMT -5
well not doing well on streaming does point to people not seeking it out. unlike last night, which is dominating streaming If only streaming was the only way to find music
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Post by shadowthehedgehogfan on Jul 19, 2023 15:24:21 GMT -5
well not doing well on streaming does point to people not seeking it out. unlike last night, which is dominating streaming If only streaming was the only way to find music even so, Cruel Summer's is catching up on radio, and fast too.
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Post by HamedM1 💔 on Jul 19, 2023 15:26:59 GMT -5
If we really even needed to discuss a song that literally would fit this conversation better its Eyes Closed, ain't nobody streaming it lmao.
Anyways can we end this tired ass conversation about Karma? Next chapter (Let me go stream The Story Of Us TV).
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Post by Gary on Jul 19, 2023 17:26:39 GMT -5
Jung Kook & Latto’s ‘Seven’ Sprints Out to Seven-Figure Daily Streams
After Jung Kook made a solo pop splash last year alongside Charlie Puth with “Left & Right,” which peaked at No. 22 on the Billboard Hot 100, early indications are that “Seven,” the BTS member’s new collaboration with Latto, will climb even higher. The rhythmic pop single got off to a scorching streaming start upon its release last Friday (July 14), with 5.11 million U.S. on-demand streams that day, according to Luminate.
That number dipped over the weekend, but was still comfortably clocking over 2.5 million daily streams through Monday, accruing 13.7 million total streams in its first four days of release. Meanwhile, “Seven” earned over 34,000 in digital sales on Friday, and added another 32,000 digital copies from Saturday to Monday – with more sales expected from the set’s CD single, which is currently listed as “sold out” on the official BTS webstore.
Produced by Watt and Cirkut, “Seven” sports a shuffling beat, surprisingly explicit hook (“You know night aftеr night / I’ll be f–kin’ you right / Seven days a week,” Jung Kook sings) and combination of pop and rap that could work well at top 40 radio (with the song’s clean edit, of course). We’ll know early next week just how high “Seven” can debut, but after his BTS group mate Jimin scored a solo No. 1 single earlier this year with “Like Crazy,” Jung Kook is probably just a few days away from having his highest-charting single as a lead artist. – JASON LISPHUTZ
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Post by HamedM1 💔 on Jul 19, 2023 17:30:56 GMT -5
In fun news, Barbie World seems guaranteed to reach the top 10 on Spotify just in time for the film's release, its currently #11 and the gap between it and 10th place is pretty small. I wonder if it could possibly outpeak its original debut peak position of #6 this weekend between the hype for the film and release of the soundtrack
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Post by mylo on Jul 19, 2023 18:39:02 GMT -5
Travis Scott x The Weeknd x Bad Bunny incoming as Utopia's lead single - titled Kpop
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jul 19, 2023 18:58:39 GMT -5
Travis Scott x The Weeknd x Bad Bunny incoming as Utopia's lead single - titled Kpop this is #1 on paper, but we'll see.
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Post by dynamac on Jul 19, 2023 19:02:18 GMT -5
Travis Scott x The Weeknd x Bad Bunny incoming as Utopia's lead single - titled Kpop If those three + his album release a week later can’t undo Last Night…whoo boy it might be time to start dooming
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Post by Darkest Hour on Jul 19, 2023 19:08:50 GMT -5
Not even Last Night is this global.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 19:27:43 GMT -5
Umm Girls Like You was massive culturally lol Only because of its YouTube video. thanks for agreeing with reality. It was massive culturally
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jul 19, 2023 19:28:54 GMT -5
Seems like something someone with bad karma would say. Be better! Anyways, still Top 10 and soon to be #1 on HAC. A hit yeah a hit. yknow what else was a hit? Girls like you. being a hit doesnt mean a song will have any major impact aside from the charts. Should've read the room and gone with You're on your own kid. or another more downbeat song Not every song is going to have a major impact beyond the charts. Sometimes all one needs is something for the moment, even if it's just an easy hit and nothing more. That's what "Karma" was.
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Post by kml567 on Jul 19, 2023 21:10:40 GMT -5
Jung Kook & Latto’s ‘Seven’ Sprints Out to Seven-Figure Daily StreamsAfter Jung Kook made a solo pop splash last year alongside Charlie Puth with “Left & Right,” which peaked at No. 22 on the Billboard Hot 100, early indications are that “Seven,” the BTS member’s new collaboration with Latto, will climb even higher. The rhythmic pop single got off to a scorching streaming start upon its release last Friday (July 14), with 5.11 million U.S. on-demand streams that day, according to Luminate. That number dipped over the weekend, but was still comfortably clocking over 2.5 million daily streams through Monday, accruing 13.7 million total streams in its first four days of release. Meanwhile, “Seven” earned over 34,000 in digital sales on Friday, and added another 32,000 digital copies from Saturday to Monday – with more sales expected from the set’s CD single, which is currently listed as “sold out” on the official BTS webstore. Produced by Watt and Cirkut, “Seven” sports a shuffling beat, surprisingly explicit hook (“You know night aftеr night / I’ll be f–kin’ you right / Seven days a week,” Jung Kook sings) and combination of pop and rap that could work well at top 40 radio (with the song’s clean edit, of course). We’ll know early next week just how high “Seven” can debut, but after his BTS group mate Jimin scored a solo No. 1 single earlier this year with “Like Crazy,” Jung Kook is probably just a few days away from having his highest-charting single as a lead artist. – JASON LISPHUTZ Will "Seven" be #1 on Hot 100 with close to 150k sales? It sounds like it has 66k digital downloads by midweek. By end of week, it'd be 100k probably. But don't forget about the physical CD single sales from the BTS website. Wouldn't that be another 50k physical copies sold? Or possibly 100k physical copies? So "Seven" could end up selling 150k or possibly 200k total (digital downloads + physical sales), which would guarantee #1 on the Hot 100?
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