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Post by Ace on Jul 13, 2024 17:38:59 GMT -5
All of this discourse is like the reaction to the satire in Jewel's "Intuition" video, who is another artist that hasn't pulled of satire well, for different reasons. At least Intuition is a bop tho.
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Post by Choco on Jul 13, 2024 17:39:28 GMT -5
Direct me to that please lol👀 I'm being an old person and when social media refreshes I can't seem to find shit on it. I'm trying though. Normally, I'd say its fan copium, but every other clip she has shared as been amazing and I literally cannot believe they would choose this song over any of them. Like, it does not make sense, at all. They made up the same type of shit when people started saying Luke was on her album again. It's fans trying to deceive for dumb reasons. It's ok to enjoy the song just don't lie about facts because it's just embarrassing.
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Post by bat1990 on Jul 13, 2024 18:20:19 GMT -5
So is anyone else seeing the conspiracy theories from her fans? That she released something knowingly terrible to drum up controversy because more people are talking about her now than they have in years and then she is releasing, quickly, an amazing second single? I mean, the fan seemed pretty convincing lmao. Imagine for a moment if that were her plan. lol She purposely releases a contrived, banal, vapid, paint-by-numbers song & video with Dr. Luke to enrage and annoy/disappoint people to only then immediately drop an actual banger with brilliant visuals? That would be bold (the Luke part, quite foolish regardless) yet oddly iconic and unprecedented. Has any artist ever released a legitimate decoy lead? Obviously this is unlikely to be the scenario, but what an outrageous move that would be. 😂 The closest thing this hypothetical scenario reminds me of is Frank Ocean's Endless/Blonde thing.
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Post by think pink. on Jul 13, 2024 18:58:33 GMT -5
This convo is taking me back to when some Britney fans swore up and down the "Womanizer" LQ snippet was a fake/set up plot because they initially didnt like it lol. Edit. Or "Gimme More" not being the actual video and the "real" one coming later. Omg the memories
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Post by rainie on Jul 13, 2024 21:03:48 GMT -5
wait i. thought it was clear that the video (or at least large parts of the video) were satire ?? like i know katy is blatantly out of touch (which is why i took the lyrics at 100% face value but there's no way you do. say the sexy urinal scene or that seltzer "product placement" scene without a hint of irony
now whether it's effective irony or a good music video in the first place is debatable but it's clearly meant as an exaggerated take on the brand of feminism she's unironically pedaling in the lyrics (which makes it all the more confusing)
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 13, 2024 21:12:44 GMT -5
I'm being an old person and when social media refreshes I can't seem to find shit on it. I'm trying though. Normally, I'd say its fan copium, but every other clip she has shared as been amazing and I literally cannot believe they would choose this song over any of them. Like, it does not make sense, at all. They made up the same type of shit when people started saying Luke was on her album again. It's fans trying to deceive for dumb reasons. It's ok to enjoy the song just don't lie about facts because it's just embarrassing. Yep. Like.. in what universe does it make sense for an artist to have two songs, one subjectively awful and one subjectively great, and they decide to release the subjectively awful one first for publicity? People seem to have this obsession too with “they have a better second single coming up”, as if that’s any kind of legitimate strategy. Artists are going to release their best song first, because why wouldn’t they?
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Post by haven on Jul 13, 2024 23:06:45 GMT -5
inevitable: https%3A//soundcloud.com/emoticonx3/joy-world-womans-world-x-joyride
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Jul 13, 2024 23:37:53 GMT -5
It is amusing to me that this being released has sent me on a listening spree of her objectively (mostly) excellent singles run from OOTB to Prism... but I don't want to listen to the song that prompted it.
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 14, 2024 0:12:50 GMT -5
They made up the same type of shit when people started saying Luke was on her album again. It's fans trying to deceive for dumb reasons. It's ok to enjoy the song just don't lie about facts because it's just embarrassing. Yep. Like.. in what universe does it make sense for an artist to have two songs, one subjectively awful and one subjectively great, and they decide to release the subjectively awful one first for publicity? People seem to have this obsession too with “they have a better second single coming up”, as if that’s any kind of legitimate strategy. Artists are going to release their best song first, because why wouldn’t they? I could see certain situations where saving a better song for second single is a good strategy (see: Kelly Clarkson's Stronger era or Natasha Bedingfield's two hit eras), but Katy just isn't in the spot of her career for that to work very well. And her team would definitely be aware of that lol. It's such a shame because she really was working her way into the good graces of the public again. Her discography got a really nice streaming boost within the past couple years, and her image was really improving in such a good way. And then this happened and squandered literally all of it. 😭 No one is gonna care about her second single now except her hardcore fans.
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 14, 2024 1:09:53 GMT -5
At least it will be a chart hit.
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Post by rainie on Jul 14, 2024 1:17:27 GMT -5
"chart hit"
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Post by heybren22 on Jul 14, 2024 1:23:52 GMT -5
Cue Gia Gunn's "there's room for everybody, let's just say that"
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jul 14, 2024 1:27:05 GMT -5
It is amusing to me that this being released has sent me on a listening spree of her objectively (mostly) excellent singles run from OOTB to Prism... but I don't want to listen to the song that prompted it. ‘Dark Horse’ has been on loop for me lol
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jul 14, 2024 2:34:15 GMT -5
It's incredible how one woman can have such disastrous album rollouts within one decade
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Post by balletgirlmom on Jul 14, 2024 4:54:44 GMT -5
Katy's look reminds me of Cher's early 1970's look. Timeless.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 14, 2024 5:25:21 GMT -5
I saw this over on PopJustice so IDK the source but allegedly next Friday Katy will be dropping a new EP a la Sabrina's 'Espresso' versions EP. 1. Woman's World 2. Woman's World (BRB Woman Version) 3. Woman's World (Doing The Most Woman Version) 4. Woman's World (Transcendental Woman Version) 5. Woman's World (Super Woman Version) 6. Woman's World (Naked Woman Version) I'm presuming the following: BRB = Instrumental Doing The Most = Sped Up Transcendental = Slowed Down Super = Extended Naked = Acappella
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 14, 2024 6:42:09 GMT -5
No change on AC; leaving it off the updates for now.
POP: -- 28 KATY PERRY Woman's World 1790 0 1790 5.056
+411 Spins +411 Bullet +0.963 Audience
HOT AC: -- 25 KATY PERRY Woman's World 881 0 881 3.199
+236 Spins +236 Bullet +0.941 Audience
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Post by leonagwen on Jul 14, 2024 7:40:48 GMT -5
Spotify hasn't updated the daily chart yet.
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Post by avamaxstan on Jul 14, 2024 8:45:57 GMT -5
It is amusing to me that this being released has sent me on a listening spree of her objectively (mostly) excellent singles run from OOTB to Prism... but I don't want to listen to the song that prompted it. Lol same. The irony if her back catalogue gets a boost while this flops into oblivion.
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Post by leonagwen on Jul 14, 2024 8:56:22 GMT -5
At least it will be a chart hit. I wouldn't count on it! Twitter predicted this song to get 3 million 1st day streams and it ended up with 2 million. Predictions aren't always accurate.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jul 14, 2024 9:18:57 GMT -5
At least it will be a chart hit. I wouldn't count on it! Twitter predicted this song to get 3 million 1st day streams and it ended up with 2 million. Predictions aren't always accurate. I don't think that was a prediction, HDD projected 3M+ streams, and it had 2.86M unfiltered streams.
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Post by leonagwen on Jul 14, 2024 9:22:27 GMT -5
I wouldn't count on it! Twitter predicted this song to get 3 million 1st day streams and it ended up with 2 million. Predictions aren't always accurate. I don't think that was a prediction, HDD projected 3M+ streams, and it had 2.86M unfiltered streams. Unfiltered doesn't count, only filtered streams count.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jul 14, 2024 9:29:17 GMT -5
I don't think that was a prediction, HDD projected 3M+ streams, and it had 2.86M unfiltered streams. Unfiltered doesn't count, only filtered streams count. yes, but they don't know how much will be filtered. Also, TOTC make early preds based on first day numbers and some most logical trajectory from the 2nd to 7th day.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jul 14, 2024 9:42:00 GMT -5
It fell off the Spotify top 200. Oof.
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Post by chickythelittlechicken on Jul 14, 2024 9:44:01 GMT -5
Oh god this is looking bad..
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jul 14, 2024 9:46:50 GMT -5
omg...when she flops, she usually flops with style, but this is really...
2nd single asap!
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jul 14, 2024 9:49:21 GMT -5
I was genuinely shocked. I had to check the list like 2-3 times to make sure I wasn't skipping over it somehow. Like, this is awful. "Small Talk" performed better than this and that was a blip. And the conversation around Katy in comment sections are awful. I'm starting to think it's not just the song people aren't connecting with, cause the hate I've seen is a bit much to be just over a song.
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Post by chickythelittlechicken on Jul 14, 2024 9:56:37 GMT -5
As well, there are more dislikes than likes on the video now.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 14, 2024 9:59:29 GMT -5
And if I recall correctly even LNX lasted a full week with 'J Christ' before he fell off Spotify.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jul 14, 2024 10:01:15 GMT -5
Oh well, everyone’s loss. I guess keep listening to ballads.
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