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Post by mag on Jul 17, 2024 16:10:18 GMT -5
Don’t mix things up. I’m talking about the incident at the bar in 2020 way before those 2 that you mentioned. Anyway I’m not saying she has to be punished or cancelled. I’m just referring to the double standard and speech people use. Sorry. Morgan has had so many issues it's probably hard for people to keep up. I think most people (myself included) have forgiven Morgan and hope he gets the help he needs. I like that Ingrid admitted she had a problem, admitted her performance was bad and is trying to get help. I am rooting for her. You still didn’t get my point 🤦🏻♂️
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Sugar Rush
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Post by Sugar Rush on Jul 17, 2024 16:45:28 GMT -5
Yes, because hurling a racial slur and throwing a chair off a rooftop down to where innocent bystanders could be injured (or worse) is absolutely equivalent to getting drunk and having a bad live performance on TV. I see your point along with the ones that have clearly been missed. I love it here. Don’t mix things up. I’m talking about the incident at the bar in 2020 way before those 2 that you mentioned. Anyway I’m not saying she has to be punished or cancelled. I’m just referring to the double standard and speech people use. The double standard is Morgan Wallen is a racist alcoholic who got to keep his career despite being an absolutely shitty human-being, and Ingrid will probably have her career ended as a result of this. Perhaps focus more on Morgan seeking help for his addiction then trying to say "double standards!!!!!!" when at least Ingrid is acknowledging she needs help - a lot more mature than anything Morgan could do.
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Post by Bhad Bill on Jul 17, 2024 16:49:52 GMT -5
Welp…we’ll see what happens I guess. I’m not sure many will be willing to take her seriously after that atrocity. I tried to convince the people I watched with that she’s actually really talented but they just laughed at me. Really sad turn of events for her. People are very shallow and will jump at any opportunity to bring others down to build themselves up. Not saying your friends are doing that but just in general that’s what people do. They jump on the bandwagon and it builds their own self-esteem. No matter what I thought about the performance I would never say a single thing on social media about it. People hate when their feelings get hurt or when people say negative things about them but have no problem putting down others. It’s sad but it’s the truth :( Thank you for saying this. It's exactly the reason I don't (and never) had twitter and my life is so much better for it. I don't enjoy reading comments from losers sitting at home who enjoy putting people down, who (don't have the talent or work ethic anyway) would never be in the same position criticize celebrities and performers. They would be devastated to be roasted so hard. It's just a collection of low self esteem people who could never do better trying to make themselves feel better. I love Ingrid, I saw her live in NYC in late 2021, and she was incredibly talented. Hopefully this will help her career in the long run, even if it seems like it hurts in the short run.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jul 17, 2024 17:22:11 GMT -5
She made it worse by publicly admitting she was drunk and then suddenly going to rehab. That came across as insincere. She should've taken a route similar to Fergie's apologize:
'I've always been honored and proud to perform the national anthem and last night I wanted to try something special for the NBA. I'm a risk taker artistically, but clearly this rendition didn't strike the intended tone. I love this country and honestly tried my best.'
Substitute Fergie's artistic risk taking by saying you were nervous + get your publicist to book you for a National Anthem anywhere - minor league baseball, WBNA, etc.
I doubt Country radio will be eager to spin her unless she gets tagged on a major feature. It's too bad.
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Post by matty005 on Jul 17, 2024 19:45:37 GMT -5
She made it worse by publicly admitting she was drunk and then suddenly going to rehab. That came across as insincere. She should've taken a route similar to Fergie's apologize: 'I've always been honored and proud to perform the national anthem and last night I wanted to try something special for the NBA. I'm a risk taker artistically, but clearly this rendition didn't strike the intended tone. I love this country and honestly tried my best.' Substitute Fergie's artistic risk taking by saying you were nervous + get your publicist to book you for a National Anthem anywhere - minor league baseball, WBNA, etc. I doubt Country radio will be eager to spin her unless she gets tagged on a major feature. It's too bad. She told the truth. I respect it. Admitting you have a problem and you fucked up is hard to do. That is why most of these apologies come across as so insincere because they're PR driven and seem fake. She told exactly the reason why it happened. Her saying she was nervous would have come across as so fake.
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Jul 18, 2024 17:00:02 GMT -5
She made it worse by publicly admitting she was drunk and then suddenly going to rehab. That came across as insincere. She should've taken a route similar to Fergie's apologize: 'I've always been honored and proud to perform the national anthem and last night I wanted to try something special for the NBA. I'm a risk taker artistically, but clearly this rendition didn't strike the intended tone. I love this country and honestly tried my best.' Substitute Fergie's artistic risk taking by saying you were nervous + get your publicist to book you for a National Anthem anywhere - minor league baseball, WBNA, etc. I doubt Country radio will be eager to spin her unless she gets tagged on a major feature. It's too bad. this has to be one of the worst takes I've ever seen. She owned up to what she did and that she needed help and is going to get that help. Fergie never fully recovered so going her route would not have been a good way either. Country radio unfortunately was not eager to spin her regardless so I don't think this will make a difference either way tbh
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jul 18, 2024 19:55:01 GMT -5
She made it worse by publicly admitting she was drunk and then suddenly going to rehab. That came across as insincere. She should've taken a route similar to Fergie's apologize: 'I've always been honored and proud to perform the national anthem and last night I wanted to try something special for the NBA. I'm a risk taker artistically, but clearly this rendition didn't strike the intended tone. I love this country and honestly tried my best.' Substitute Fergie's artistic risk taking by saying you were nervous + get your publicist to book you for a National Anthem anywhere - minor league baseball, WBNA, etc. I doubt Country radio will be eager to spin her unless she gets tagged on a major feature. It's too bad. this has to be one of the worst takes I've ever seen. She owned up to what she did and that she needed help and is going to get that help. Fergie never fully recovered so going her route would not have been a good way either. Country radio unfortunately was not eager to spin her regardless so I don't think this will make a difference either way tbh Perhaps this was the wake-up call she needed and will be clean and sober after rehab. I wish her luck. That said, from a PR + career standpoint, it may have been better to go to rehab in private, complete treatment and then reveal all. It's hard enough for female country artists to get any break. As you note, she's already in a weak position at radio. It's doubtful programmers will be eager to fill one of the abhorrently few spots for female artists with her. I'd love to be 100% wrong on her career prospects because she's a promising artist.
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meuirmao
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Post by meuirmao on Jul 18, 2024 22:11:24 GMT -5
I gotta say thank you Ingrid and your famous anthem rendition. I went to a trivia event yesterday and she was the answer to a bonus round question. Helped me achieve extra points!
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.indulgecountry
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 19, 2024 17:27:32 GMT -5
In re: the aftermath of the fallout
I do see both sides of it as well, because while watching it, it was clear to me that she was a drunk and disheveled mess while performing and should not have been in that situation to begin with. That said, her immediate statement that she was checking into rehab did feel very PR-stunty due to the timing and the nature of her response -- the fact that she tried to partially make a joke out of it and say something to the effect of rehab being "fun" was downright cringeworthy whether she intended it that way or not. None of us truly know what's going on behind the scenes and I've certainly seen no prior indication that she has any kind of substance abuse problems before the anthem, so I'm not here to judge her on any of that and I do truly hope she gets the proper help she needs if she does have a severe addiction issue going on. But I can also understand why immediately pivoting to "guys I was drunk and now I'm gonna go see if rehab is fun" was leaving people feeling cold. She wasn't in a good position regardless of how you slice it, but part of me thinks just largely ignoring it on her/her team's part and letting it just eventually blow over after some time had passed may have been the best course. Anyway, I love Ingrid's music immensely, so I wish her the best regardless.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Jul 23, 2024 16:31:19 GMT -5
Is this still coming out tomorrow? Anyone know?
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