Sabrina Carpenter - "Bed Chem"

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[Ryan]

[shakemaki]

She’s becoming the biggest artist in the uk since Adele…

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This has also been top 10 in Australia since release lol. May be the only one of her four singles not to top the chart here but this has been Sabrina's year for sure.

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[southerninternal999]

With all these spin increases, it would not surprise me one bit if we have four Sabrina songs in the Top 20 by early November

[theflying]

*SINCERELY* hope they release Juno as a fifth single. It would sound so refreshing on radio and I love that all of her singles have had different flavors and it doesn’t feel like they step on each other sonically. I don’t feel like the public is at all tired of Sabrina right now.

[Jack]

Boo to the idea of Juno as a single.

Bed Chem and then new single from a re-release pls.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

If they release a fifth single from the album, it's gotta be "Good Graces" lbr.

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[tatula69]

Oct 19, 2024 14:08:10 GMT -5 theflying said:

*SINCERELY* hope they release Juno as a fifth single. It would sound so refreshing on radio and I love that all of her singles have had different flavors and it doesn’t feel like they step on each other sonically. I don’t feel like the public is at all tired of Sabrina right now.

Sorry but Juno, as chipper and feel-good as it is, it sounds like a chewing gum commercial jingle to me or something…

A song I think no one has mentioned for a potential 5th single…how about Dumb and Poetic? It would be completely unexpected , and would continue the tradition of each song being 💯 unique …

[Mayman]

Oct 20, 2024 3:58:19 GMT -5 Jack said:

Boo to the idea of Juno as a single.

Bed Chem and then new single from a re-release pls.

Why move on so quickly when there's interest in multiple other songs from this album? That would be a dumb decision. Save a deluxe single for when there's no interest left in the remaining songs.

[shakemaki]

Juno would have been the blatantly obvious lead single on nearly any other pop album of recent years, but that’s just how stacked with smashes SNS is. I see no reason to not try it 5th, this may be the only chance quite literally all decade we get to have an iconic 5 smash era like pre streaming times. Why waste it? I’d even go for a 6th tbh, but we’ll see where we’re at by then.

Also, the “we never talk about…” post-chorus on Sharpest Tool goes to toe to toe with any other hook on the album as the album’s single catchiest moment. Just putting that out there.

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[clsvltn]

4 songs in the top 29 on CHR! Has anyone had more/higher at once ?

[Jack]

Oct 20, 2024 12:16:45 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Why move on so quickly when there's interest in multiple other songs from this album? That would be a dumb decision. Save a deluxe single for when there's no interest left in the remaining songs.

Because that interest (Bed Chem aside) is largely, at time of speaking, confined to music forums.

Granted. Sabrina's hitmaking ability currently is unmatched. That said. The Carly-Rae, 00s rom-com stylings of Juno may scratch the itch of Atrl & pulse's ears, I just can't see it a) Particularly aligning with radio in 2025 b) Aligning sonically or lyrically with her now near-half-dozen smash singles, which makes up brand that is very specific.

Further to these points, I think Espresso & Taste are obvious slam dunks, and Please Please Please is a quirky, unique, unmistakably Sabrina career-record. Juno, I don't think, is any of those things. Furthermore, in six months time, when hundreds of millions more streams are racke up on the album, and the album has sold God-knows how many more copies, I don't think there's going to be a feverish buzz or demand for any other remaining SnS album tracks, no.

All that, consider the fact she's been pictured back in the studio, her and Jack's working relationship was still sizzling the extent to which they couldn't get some of their work in time for the album as as, and the fact that forebears such as Rihanna proved that striking with new new new/more more more while the iron is hot, during the hottest of hot streaks, is the wise move...hopefully serves to answer your question.

[Mayman]

Oct 21, 2024 9:07:53 GMT -5 Jack said:

Oct 20, 2024 12:16:45 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Why move on so quickly when there's interest in multiple other songs from this album? That would be a dumb decision. Save a deluxe single for when there's no interest left in the remaining songs.

Because that interest (Bed Chem aside) is largely, at time of speaking, confined to music forums.

Granted. Sabrina's hitmaking ability currently is unmatched. That said. The Carly-Rae, 00s rom-com stylings of Juno may scratch the itch of Atrl & pulse's ears, I just can't see it a) Particularly aligning with radio in 2025 b) Aligning sonically or lyrically with her now near-half-dozen smash singles, which makes up brand that is very specific.

Further to these points, I think Espresso & Taste are obvious slam dunks, and Please Please Please is a quirky, unique, unmistakably Sabrina career-record. Juno, I don't think, is any of those things. Furthermore, in six months time, when hundreds of millions more streams are racke up on the album, and the album has sold God-knows how many more copies, I don't think there's going to be a feverish buzz or demand for any other remaining SnS album tracks, no.

All that, consider the fact she's been pictured back in the studio, her and Jack's working relationship was still sizzling the extent to which they couldn't get some of their work in time for the album as as, and the fact that forebears such as Rihanna proved that striking with new new new/more more more while the iron is hot, during the hottest of hot streaks, is the wise move...hopefully serves to answer your question.

But your first point is just simply not true. "Juno" initially was not one of the top tracks from the album but has slowly risen the ranks and become a favorite on the album. That and "Good Graces" even rose today on US Spotify to #36 and #45 respectively. There IS interest in these two songs, just like there was for the 4 post album singles from Planet Her which then garnered 5 top 5 hits on pop radio. There is enough steam in these songs to have them hit on radio. With the right music video (clearly her videos help her songs a lot which is rare now) they can definitely stay stable on streaming. Not sure the reason to get so snarky about there being no interest outside of a music forum when that is blatantly incorrect.

I personally think both "Juno" and "Good Graces" have smash written all over them, but I'll respect your opinion because we all have different perspectives on that. I think the deluxe will be a good idea eventually, it would just be odd to put it out this early on when people are still heavily consuming the original tracks.

[theflying]

I adore Good Graces, the only reason I didn’t select it is that it’s slightly too similar in sound to what precedes it, Bed Chem. If you’re gonna go five singles, they should sound different and scratch different itches since Sabrina is ultimately a Pop artist. Juno is just a sound we haven’t heard yet from this album.

But I do think Good Graces is insanely catchy and could do perfectly well. Obviously people are streaming it.

Heartened to hear that Juno is overtaking it though. Besides, it is such a viral moment for her tour.

[shakemaki]

Arguing against Juno’s hit potential while claiming it’s obvious why Espresso and Taste are such big hits is legit nonsensical, but ok then. They all are heavily riffing from the CRJ playbook for the record, that’s far from a Juno exclusive thing. And Juno doing so well from day 1 on streaming despite being track TEN is massive. That says it all about its inherent hit potential.

Which btw, get that woman another smash pronto (Ms. Jepsen).

[Jack]

Oct 21, 2024 9:36:42 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Oct 21, 2024 9:07:53 GMT -5 Jack said:

Because that interest (Bed Chem aside) is largely, at time of speaking, confined to music forums.

Granted. Sabrina's hitmaking ability currently is unmatched. That said. The Carly-Rae, 00s rom-com stylings of Juno may scratch the itch of Atrl & pulse's ears, I just can't see it a) Particularly aligning with radio in 2025 b) Aligning sonically or lyrically with her now near-half-dozen smash singles, which makes up brand that is very specific.

Further to these points, I think Espresso & Taste are obvious slam dunks, and Please Please Please is a quirky, unique, unmistakably Sabrina career-record. Juno, I don't think, is any of those things. Furthermore, in six months time, when hundreds of millions more streams are racke up on the album, and the album has sold God-knows how many more copies, I don't think there's going to be a feverish buzz or demand for any other remaining SnS album tracks, no.

All that, consider the fact she's been pictured back in the studio, her and Jack's working relationship was still sizzling the extent to which they couldn't get some of their work in time for the album as as, and the fact that forebears such as Rihanna proved that striking with new new new/more more more while the iron is hot, during the hottest of hot streaks, is the wise move...hopefully serves to answer your question.

But your first point is just simply not true. "Juno" initially was not one of the top tracks from the album but has slowly risen the ranks and become a favorite on the album. That and "Good Graces" even rose today on US Spotify to #36 and #45 respectively. There IS interest in these two songs, just like there was for the 4 post album singles from Planet Her which then garnered 5 top 5 hits on pop radio. There is enough steam in these songs to have them hit on radio. With the right music video (clearly her videos help her songs a lot which is rare now) they can definitely stay stable on streaming. Not sure the reason to get so snarky about there being no interest outside of a music forum when that is blatantly incorrect.

I personally think both "Juno" and "Good Graces" have smash written all over them, but I'll respect your opinion because we all have different perspectives on that. I think the deluxe will be a good idea eventually, it would just be odd to put it out this early on when people are still heavily consuming the original tracks.

Okay, yes, it’s in the top half of songs, streaming-wise, of a very successful album, which doubtless translates to feverish excitement for its single release in six months time by the general public, and would do better and be more desirable than a newer better song for all the other reasons reasons I said and you ignored, because you like it? Fair?

I didn’t say anything should be “this soon”. Taste hasn’t nearly peaked. Bed Chem is clearly up next. We’re talking next Spring or Summer of 2025. She’s in the studio. Jack and she were making more until just before the album came out. I don’t think Juno or Good Graces are as undeniable as Espresso or Taste, and I think there’s no reason she can’t release another ten songs as undeniable and on brand as those over the next few years (the way Rihanna did), with the momentum and resources she has (the way Lady Gaga did). If you think Good Graces and Juno are the kind of decade defining hits the extent to which she’s had the last year, and that her team won’t be capable of bigger and better singles now she’s the biggest breakout pop star in the world, fair dos.

Besides, I don’t think you should be bemoaning about comments being ‘snarky’ when you’re flying off calling proposed decisions ‘dumb’ :)

[shakemaki]

It is obviously possible a 5th single could flop no matter what bc such is the nature of the streaming era, so that I can concede. But I will say Juno is the strongest contender for a 5th single smash of any potential 5th single from an album this decade.

I still think she should be Juno in the vid with Elliot Page essentially playing Michael Cera’s role for potential huge vitality.

[Jack]

Oct 21, 2024 16:38:54 GMT -5 shakemaki said:

It is obviously possible a 5th single could flop no matter what bc such is the nature of the streaming era, so that I can concede. But I will say Juno is the strongest contender for a 5th single smash of any potential 5th single from an album this decade.

I still think she should be Juno in the vid with Elliot Page essentially playing Michael Cera’s role for potential huge vitality.

And you have that vision! And maybe you're right. I just don't see it or hear it. I finally got round to hearing Busy Woman properly, I think that's a better/more 'Sabrina' Pop record than Juno. And the fact she has a tightly nit team always creating, in the streaming era, with the momentum behind her - I wouldn't be surprised about a new new single next Summer and think that would be the smart move.

I almost hope Juno does get the single release, so Popjustice aren't talking about it like it would have been Thriller if it doesn't, for the next twenty years.

[shakemaki]

Most to least CRJ coded on the album:

1. Taste
2. Juno
3. Don’t Smile (this is All That’s little sister sonically)
4. Espresso
5. Sharpest Tool
6. Dumb and Poetic
7. Coincidence
8. Bed Chem (though it’s more Ariana coded than anything, the Carly-isms are still there)

The others, not really.

[mccloud]

Oct 21, 2024 16:54:25 GMT -5 shakemaki said:

Most to least CRJ coded on the album:

1. Taste
2. Juno
3. Don’t Smile (this is All That’s little sister sonically)
4. Espresso
5. Sharpest Tool
6. Dumb and Poetic
7. Coincidence
8. Bed Chem (though it’s more Ariana coded than anything, the Carly-isms are still there)

The others, not really.

Good Graces legit sounds like an Ariana song from 2019

[shakemaki]

Oct 21, 2024 17:29:24 GMT -5 mccloud said:

Oct 21, 2024 16:54:25 GMT -5 shakemaki said:

Most to least CRJ coded on the album:

1. Taste
2. Juno
3. Don’t Smile (this is All That’s little sister sonically)
4. Espresso
5. Sharpest Tool
6. Dumb and Poetic
7. Coincidence
8. Bed Chem (though it’s more Ariana coded than anything, the Carly-isms are still there)

The others, not really.

Good Graces legit sounds like an Ariana songs from 2019

Agreed, that one is a thank u next leftover (kidding ofc, but wouldn’t be surprised either lol). To me, P3 and Slim Pickens are the only ones that are uniquely “Sabrina.” I’m ok that she channeled other artists so hard on SNS though bc, first and foremost she picked great influences and executed it extremely well, and she also still managed to make the majority of them her own (though GG would be the most egregious case where it borders on sounding like straight up rip-off imo).

[Mayman]

Oct 21, 2024 16:37:09 GMT -5 Jack said:

Oct 21, 2024 9:36:42 GMT -5 Mayman said:

But your first point is just simply not true. "Juno" initially was not one of the top tracks from the album but has slowly risen the ranks and become a favorite on the album. That and "Good Graces" even rose today on US Spotify to #36 and #45 respectively. There IS interest in these two songs, just like there was for the 4 post album singles from Planet Her which then garnered 5 top 5 hits on pop radio. There is enough steam in these songs to have them hit on radio. With the right music video (clearly her videos help her songs a lot which is rare now) they can definitely stay stable on streaming. Not sure the reason to get so snarky about there being no interest outside of a music forum when that is blatantly incorrect.

I personally think both "Juno" and "Good Graces" have smash written all over them, but I'll respect your opinion because we all have different perspectives on that. I think the deluxe will be a good idea eventually, it would just be odd to put it out this early on when people are still heavily consuming the original tracks.

Okay, yes, it’s in the top half of songs, streaming-wise, of a very successful album, which doubtless translates to feverish excitement for its single release in six months time by the general public, and would do better and be more desirable than a newer better song for all the other reasons reasons I said and you ignored, because you like it? Fair?

I didn’t say anything should be “this soon”. Taste hasn’t nearly peaked. Bed Chem is clearly up next. We’re talking next Spring or Summer of 2025. She’s in the studio. Jack and she were making more until just before the album came out. I don’t think Juno or Good Graces are as undeniable as Espresso or Taste, and I think there’s no reason she can’t release another ten songs as undeniable and on brand as those over the next few years (the way Rihanna did), with the momentum and resources she has (the way Lady Gaga did). If you think Good Graces and Juno are the kind of decade defining hits the extent to which she’s had the last year, and that her team won’t be capable of bigger and better singles now she’s the biggest breakout pop star in the world, fair dos.

Besides, I don’t think you should be bemoaning about comments being ‘snarky’ when you’re flying off calling proposed decisions ‘dumb’ :)

It doesn't necessarily need excitement for a single release in six months. My Planet Her example was to show that many of the album tracks streamed well in the weeks following the album release, but by the time they were released to radio (specifically Woman and Get Into It Yuh) they weren't streaming as well, but still did decently (hitting #1 and #4 on pop radio). A music video can also help with re-igniting the songs, although that's not a surefire bet.

I didn't ignore your comments, I even said "I personally think both "Juno" and "Good Graces" have smash written all over them, but I'll respect your opinion because we all have different perspectives on that." I disagree with you that Juno isn't a hit on the same level of the first three/four singles. Do I think this or Juno would have a shot at #1 on the Hot 100? No. Do I think her further cementing her hold she has on pop radio with this album would be smart? Yes. Weren't you the one in the PPP defending it as a hit when everyone was saying it didn't sound like a radio single. I agreed with you then, I'm moreso shocked that you wouldn't feel the same for "Juno." To each their own though, I never was arguing that part of your original post. I just think she has enough momentum to keep this era going for another 2 singles after this. 

I agree with you if she were to do a deluxe then release it next Summer. I almost think it would be better for her to work on an entire new album for next Fall and keep the momentum going over a deluxe. Release "Juno" as single #5 while she's finishing writing/recording/vinyl pressing and gear up for a new era if she wanted to. 

My comment was my personal opinion about whether or not she should release a deluxe. You said the #36 song on US Spotify at the moment was only successful and talked about on music forums, which is just blatantly not true. 

[clsvltn]

Good Graces should be a single after this

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