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Post by kiddo1994 on Nov 22, 2024 4:42:34 GMT -5
I saw some predictions somewhere, and it looks like Last Christmas is doing a lot better than usual this year? It's not.. last yest twas already top5 in H100 a week bfore thanksgiving.. this year it's possibly no.11 with less points and less streams Edit: this is for AIWFCIY.. i always assumed Mariah's Christmas Song when i see Christmas, my bad |
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Post by groovetheory on Nov 22, 2024 5:44:36 GMT -5
I saw some predictions somewhere, and it looks like Last Christmas is doing a lot better than usual this year? It's not.. last yest twas already top5 in H100 a week bfore thanksgiving.. this year it's possibly no.11 with less points and less streams Edit: this is for AIWFCIY.. i always assumed Mariah's Christmas Song when i see Christmas, my bad I am not sure about this but I think last year's equivalent chart included Thanksgiving streams right? This year it is a bit later. All Xmas songs are doing worse compared to that chart btw so maybe it might be due to that? |
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Post by velaxti on Nov 22, 2024 6:54:01 GMT -5
To clarify, I was looking just in comparison to other Christmas songs. In the prediction I saw Last Christmas was the 3rd highest Christmas song, only marginally behind Brenda.
On other years normally I think Jingle Bell Rock is 3rd, and normally significantly behind Mariah and Brenda. So I was a bit surprised when I saw that.
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Post by stormlover74 on Nov 22, 2024 8:47:39 GMT -5
I saw some predictions somewhere, and it looks like Last Christmas is doing a lot better than usual this year? It's not.. last yest twas already top5 in H100 a week bfore thanksgiving.. this year it's possibly no.11 with less points and less streams Edit: this is for AIWFCIY.. i always assumed Mariah's Christmas Song when i see Christmas, my bad Last year it was #17 the week prior to Thanksgiving so it's doing better if it hits #11. Remember Thanksgiving was 5 days earlier last year so 11/30/24 is comparable to 11/25/23 |
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 22, 2024 9:24:30 GMT -5
velaxti I discussed why "Last Christmas" might be doing a bit better this year here. "RATCT" wasn't eligible for the most recent Hot 100 because of the recurrency rule, but "LC" was predicted to be ahead of it, which is better than usual. groovetheory I discussed the difference in last year and this year as it relates to Thanksgiving here and here. This week we just started will definitely be a better indication of how holiday music is doing this year since Thanksgiving is at the end of the chart week.
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Post by Choco on Nov 22, 2024 9:36:54 GMT -5
No shade but I just don't get why people still use radio outside of just being used to it. Even the free tier of Spotify gives you more control over the playlists you get so at least you can avoid the hits you don't like.
And if you feel like discovering new stuff there's always the Spotify curated lists. They even rotate faster than radio so you discover more stuff weekly.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 22, 2024 10:19:50 GMT -5
No shade but I just don't get why people still use radio outside of just being used to it. Even the free tier of Spotify gives you more control over the playlists you get so at least you can avoid the hits you don't like. And if you feel like discovering new stuff there's always the Spotify curated lists. They even rotate faster than radio so you discover more stuff weekly. I’d bet that for most people, they’re casual music listeners. They don’t care to put in the money or time to set up accounts and find playlists or whatever. It’s so much easier to find a radio station or two and just default to those when you want some background noise or are driving. Plus you know what to expect and I think for most people, that’s an important factor. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 22, 2024 10:43:14 GMT -5
No shade but I just don't get why people still use radio outside of just being used to it. Even the free tier of Spotify gives you more control over the playlists you get so at least you can avoid the hits you don't like. And if you feel like discovering new stuff there's always the Spotify curated lists. They even rotate faster than radio so you discover more stuff weekly. Yeah, along the lines of what Rose "Payola" Nylund said, radio is just easy. It doesn't require any kind of sign-up/log-in. Additionally, for people who are in their vehicle, radio doesn't require connecting to Bluetooth or having any special 'set up.' At that point it's not only a matter of convenience, but it could be a matter of means as we can't take for granted that everyone has access to Internet, WiFi, Bluetooth, etc. For some people it's also just habit. My mom still listens to radio and has never created a Spotify or other account because radio is what she knows (though she has satellite radio). |
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Post by jebsib on Nov 22, 2024 10:54:19 GMT -5
Radio also feels more personal, often with local personalities, commercials, news updates and morning shows that many people have become used to after decades of daily use - and invested in.
It's not always JUST about the music.
The Radio industry panicked when cassette tapes appeared and you could
A) record any song you want off the radio and
B) Take it with you in the car or Walkman or whatever.
Then MTV was going to end radio.
I think Streaming is the closest thing ever to 'kill' radio, but it still usually takes a long time to break life-long habits.
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Post by otaviohmg on Nov 22, 2024 11:50:57 GMT -5
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Post by shakemaki on Nov 22, 2024 15:19:09 GMT -5
Radio also feels more personal, often with local personalities, commercials, news updates and morning shows that many people have become used to after decades of daily use - and invested in. It's not always JUST about the music. The Radio industry panicked when cassette tapes appeared and you could A) record any song you want off the radio and B) Take it with you in the car or Walkman or whatever. Then MTV was going to end radio. I think Streaming is the closest thing ever to 'kill' radio, but it still usually takes a long time to break life-long habits. And at the end of the day, these top songs on radio are still reaching a pretty huge audience number. Clearly there are people listening. Seems a long way from “dead” to me. |
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Post by balletgirlmom on Nov 22, 2024 18:30:05 GMT -5
I love radio especially in the car. Yes, we all stream but radio is like a no-brainer, and you hear things you might now be streaming.
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Post by professord87 on Nov 23, 2024 7:15:53 GMT -5
Considering Chappell was a bit of a culture zeitgeist this year, saying HOT TO GO! felt like a bigger hit than ABS isn't some outlandish sentiment Only liberal women and gays know who is chapell (the low budget version old lady gaga). 99% of population doesn't even know that she exists. You live in a bubble. If 99% of the populace doesn't know she exists then that for sure makes Shaboozey the biggest fraud in chart history since ABS felt like a fart in the wind compared to actual hits this year |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 23, 2024 8:24:22 GMT -5
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Post by 85la on Nov 23, 2024 10:04:52 GMT -5
Yes I still listen to the radio a lot when I'm driving, which isn't too much anymore, but a fair amount still through the iHeart radio app, mainly for the reason of ease that jenglisbe and Rose "Payola" Nylund referred to, and also what jebsib was referring to, that it's good to have a variety of conversation, dj's, radio hosts, and commercials thrown in the mix rather than just purely listening to music, and it's very much a habit for me and I'm into nostalgia a lot and doing what I've been used to for decades. Otherwise, what Choco said totally makes sense, that radio is getting more homogeneous, repetitive, and forever shrinking playlists that will only get worse and worse, and there are just so many more choices and variety through streaming. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 23, 2024 11:23:19 GMT -5
Only liberal women and gays know who is chapell (the low budget version old lady gaga). 99% of population doesn't even know that she exists. You live in a bubble. If 99% of the populace doesn't know she exists then that for sure makes Shaboozey the biggest fraud in chart history since ABS felt like a fart in the wind compared to actual hits this year "A Bar Song" has 920 Spotify streams. "Good Luck Babe" has 972 million, so not all that many more. "HTG" has 448 million Spotify streams, so half of what "A Bar Song" has. It's already been mentioned that perhaps people's perceptions are being shaped by the groups they hang out in or something. "A Bar Song" is still top 5 in sales and streaming, whereas no Chappell song is top 10. So, even taking radio out completely, "ABS" is bigger in the U.S. right now than any Chappell song. "A Bar Song" is huge. |
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Post by stormlover74 on Nov 23, 2024 11:45:03 GMT -5
Yes I still listen to the radio a lot when I'm driving, which isn't too much anymore, but a fair amount still through the iHeart radio app, mainly for the reason of ease that jenglisbe and Rose "Payola" Nylund referred to, and also what jebsib was referring to, that it's good to have a variety of conversation, dj's, radio hosts, and commercials thrown in the mix rather than just purely listening to music, and it's very much a habit for me and I'm into nostalgia a lot and doing what I've been used to for decades. Otherwise, what Choco said totally makes sense, that radio is getting more homogeneous, repetitive, and forever shrinking playlists that will only get worse and worse, and there are just so many more choices and variety through streaming. Same and it's either top 40 or classic hits for me. Problem is it can be so repetitive. I was in the car about 2 hours yesterday and heard Feather and agora hills twice. And Saturn or snooze still gets played hourly |
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Post by shakemaki on Nov 23, 2024 13:49:40 GMT -5
If 99% of the populace doesn't know she exists then that for sure makes Shaboozey the biggest fraud in chart history since ABS felt like a fart in the wind compared to actual hits this year "A Bar Song" has 920 Spotify streams. "Good Luck Babe" has 972 million, so not all that many more. "HTG" has 448 million Spotify streams, so half of what "A Bar Song" has. It's already been mentioned that perhaps people's perceptions are being shaped by the groups they hang out in or something. "A Bar Song" is still top 5 in sales and streaming, whereas no Chappell song is top 10. So, even taking radio out completely, "ABS" is bigger in the U.S. right now than any Chappell song. "A Bar Song" is huge. And DWAS has already eclipsed ABS on streaming in a fraction of the time with zero weeks at #1 on the h100 so far. It’s also a CHR #1 already like ABS too. So sometimes it’s just how things shake out with the competition and point totals on the hot 100 with how long things will stay on top. I’d argue DWAS is well on its way to being the bigger hit overall than ABS, but there’s almost 0% chance for it to spend 18+ weeks at #1 on the h100. |
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Nov 23, 2024 19:46:30 GMT -5
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Nov 23, 2024 19:50:28 GMT -5
lol, one thing's for sure, Bruno will never peak at #2.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 23, 2024 20:12:32 GMT -5
We hope to see it
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Post by professord87 on Nov 23, 2024 20:25:43 GMT -5
Lose Control about to become the most streamed song in week 70+
Not sus at all
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Nov 23, 2024 20:36:43 GMT -5
lol, one thing's for sure, Bruno will never peak at #2. On the Hot 100, at least. Because he's been Dua Lipa levels of unlucky on the Billboard 200. Most notably, both "Unorthodox Jukebox" (2012) and "An Evening With Silk Sonic" (2021) debuted behind the same album (Taylor Swift's "Red" + its eventual re-recording). Bruno's sophomore managed to score a week at #1 later, apparently benefitting from Amazon MP3 sale pricing (?). But "24K Magic", despite ending up as the second biggest album of 2017, got stuck at #2 peak-wise, blocked by Metallica's "Hardwired... to Self-Destruct" on debut week and then by "A Pentatonix Christmas" and the "Fifty Shades Darker" soundtrack  He's also less allergic to the #2 position in the UK, where "Locked Out Of Heaven", "When I Was Your Man", and currently both "Die With A Smile" and "APT." got blocked. |
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Post by Gary on Nov 23, 2024 22:17:47 GMT -5
Only liberal women and gays know who is chapell (the low budget version old lady gaga). 99% of population doesn't even know that she exists. You live in a bubble. If 99% of the populace doesn't know she exists then that for sure makes Shaboozey the biggest fraud in chart history since ABS felt like a fart in the wind compared to actual hits this year "Farts in the wind" that have been lingering for 18 weeks must smell pretty toxic by now |
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Post by kiddo1994 on Nov 23, 2024 23:48:00 GMT -5
Oh My God, it's finally happening for DWAS.. I hope it's TRUE
It will make Gaga as the first artist or female artist to have multiple no.1s across 3 Decades 😍
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 24, 2024 0:16:28 GMT -5
^I guess many here would agree that DWAS deserves to peak at #1. One of things that has holding it back the last few weeks, is that radio hasn't been growing quickly enough for it. Also, I hope it ends up being a multi-week #1 in the Hot 100.
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Post by Enigma. on Nov 24, 2024 1:03:43 GMT -5
Oh get it Lady Mars (and some extra weeks in January please)
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Post by morgan96 on Nov 24, 2024 3:43:51 GMT -5
A new top100 hit for Morgan with neon moon. Yesss |
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Nov 24, 2024 4:32:47 GMT -5
Oh My God, it's finally happening for DWAS.. I hope it's TRUE It will make Gaga as the first artist or female artist to have multiple no.1s across 3 Decades 😍 I did some quick research out of curiosity, and apparently the only artist to have achieved multiple #1s across three decades as a solo artist is Janet Jackson. 80s: "When I Think Of You", "Miss You Much" 90s: "Escapade", "Black Cat", "Love Will Never Do (Without You)", "That's The Way Love Goes", "Again", "Together Again" 00s: "Doesn't Really Matter", "All For You" Including artists who were part of chart-topping groups, you'd also have Paul McCartney (alongside The Beatles in the 60s, alongside Wings in the 70s, and solo in the 80s), Diana Ross (with The Supremes in the 60s, solo in the 70s + 80s), and Michael Jackson (alongside the Jackson 5 in the 70s, solo in the 80s + 90s). So suffice to say that Lady Gaga will be in elite company if "Die With A Smile" manages to hit #1. Stevie Wonder, Elton John, and Beyoncé barely missed it, scoring at least one #1 in three consecutive decades, but for the 60s, 80s, and 2010s respectively, having only one #1 and then #2 hits: - "Fingertips – Part 2" as the chart-topper, then "I Was Made to Love Her" and "For Once In My Life" for Stevie - "That's What Friends Are For" as the chart-topper, then "I Don't Wanna Go on with You Like That" for Elton (justice for "I'm Still Standing")- "Perfect" remix as the chart-topper, then "Drunk In Love" for Beyoncé (justice for "Love On Top" and "Formation") |
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 24, 2024 6:33:20 GMT -5
Oh My God, it's finally happening for DWAS.. I hope it's TRUE It will make Gaga as the first artist or female artist to have multiple no.1s across 3 Decades 😍 I did some quick research out of curiosity, and apparently the only artist to have achieved multiple #1s across three decades as a solo artist is Janet Jackson. 80s: "When I Think Of You", "Miss You Much" 90s: "Escapade", "Black Cat", "Love Will Never Do (Without You)", "That's The Way Love Goes", "Again", "Together Again" 00s: "Doesn't Really Matter", "All For You" Including artists who were part of chart-topping groups, you'd also have Paul McCartney (alongside The Beatles in the 60s, alongside Wings in the 70s, and solo in the 80s), Diana Ross (with The Supremes in the 60s, solo in the 70s + 80s), and Michael Jackson (alongside the Jackson 5 in the 70s, solo in the 80s + 90s). So suffice to say that Lady Gaga will be in elite company if "Die With A Smile" manages to hit #1. Stevie Wonder, Elton John, and Beyoncé barely missed it, scoring at least one #1 in three consecutive decades, but for the 60s, 80s, and 2010s respectively, having only one #1 and then #2 hits: - "Fingertips – Part 2" as the chart-topper, then "I Was Made to Love Her" and "For Once In My Life" for Stevie - "That's What Friends Are For" as the chart-topper, then "I Don't Wanna Go on with You Like That" for Elton (justice for "I'm Still Standing")- "Perfect" remix as the chart-topper, then "Drunk In Love" for Beyoncé (justice for "Love On Top" and "Formation")This is of course such a technicality thing with groups because Gaga and Bruno are essentially a group on this song. I mean, doesn't Diana Ross actually have more time on those Supremes #1s than Gaga has on "DWAS" lol? I'm someone who thinks lead singers of groups should have those songs combined with their solo stuff, but I know Billboard doesn't usually do it that way. :ETA: Both of Gaga's #1s this decade are as part of a duo (i.e. group). |
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