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Post by Pipa on Jul 19, 2005 12:01:34 GMT -5
This is nothing special. It's like they chose a beat and then had to find something to talk over it.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jul 20, 2005 19:25:03 GMT -5
I listened to the whole album again last night and I still don't hear anything that would work well as a single after "THTF." Nothing.
Regarding this song, I don't much care for the rambly, spoken-sung lyrics (from anyone, for that matter). It reminds me of something I can't quite put my finger on, but the two that nail it best are actually "Down in It" by NIN (with the added bonus of recycling its own "(seeing a) tiny little dot" phrase) and "Omega," Corey Taylor's poem at the end of Stone Sour's record. God, that's awful to listen to. Nothing against the words, necessarily, but hearing something poetic spoken in a musical context is usually awful.
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Post by Andy on Jul 21, 2005 7:19:43 GMT -5
I like it, video is good as well, out in the UK next week...Top 30 beckons hopefully.
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Post by American Idiot on Jul 22, 2005 13:41:14 GMT -5
I guess this song's alright. I'm more of a fan of their rocking "The Hand That Feeds" sound than this techno type. I could see it going in the top 10 in the next 2 weeks or so since it is NIN.
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Post by jdmasta289 on Jul 22, 2005 13:50:34 GMT -5
I don't understand the negative feelings toward this song. I saw the video the other night, but, like always, I couldn't remember the station (either Fuse or MTV2, I think, they all run in order on my network...)
I think Trent's recent material sounds a little more mainstream, for the "masses" if you will. I absolutely love this song and consider it better than "THTF". This will likely hit Top 10 for the fact that it is NIN, and have longevity as well.
The only negative feeling I have toward this song is that when he repeats "only" in the refrain, he makes it sound like he came up with the title before he actually wrote the song. Yes, the lyrics are somewhat simplistic in the chorus, but isn't that true in songs like "Closer" and "Into the Void"?
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Post by halo19 on Jul 22, 2005 14:12:54 GMT -5
If that's all it were I wouldn't have had nearly as much of a problem with this song. I don't really care if it's simple, but this is seriously on par with some of the "poems" that I wrote in eighth grade and that says a lot. I usually laugh at those silly thoughts that I once had. To me if the music were good enough I wouldn't mind. But I don't like anything about this song. It is like a poor imitation of Gary Numan and it's clear he was influenced by that but on an album called pretty hate machine that sort of thing was much better-executed. Besides my favorite things about the song don't even last long.
The music video is what does shine and the only reason it would even make my personal chart if it did. It reminds me of something I would have came up with as an idea, and I was beaten to it.
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Post by sleepy time on Jul 22, 2005 14:15:50 GMT -5
I like the song but the video bores me and sort of turns me off. It looks like a Sharper Image commercial.
I heard this on the radio and they muted out the "there is no (****ing) me" part. It really breaks up the rhythm of the song and bothered me for some reason.
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Post by oscillations. on Jul 25, 2005 23:50:43 GMT -5
I'm surprised this isn't taking off faster
hmm...
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Post by halo19 on Jul 26, 2005 7:08:55 GMT -5
It seems to be doing just fine to me. I mean, it's a much better performance than "L'Via L'Viaquez" which was even edited to four minutes for the radio. Also it looks like it'll ultimately be a lot more successful than "In My Head".
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Post by oscillations. on Jul 27, 2005 22:46:53 GMT -5
Oh I'm sure it will reach Top 20, hopefully Top 10
maybe when THTF dies down more, it's bullet will increase a lot
I knew obviously it wouldn't take off like the first single...follow up singles never do at first, but I guess I expected it to be around a +300 bullet or something by now
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Post by jond7699 on Jul 29, 2005 9:08:03 GMT -5
I am too disappointed with it. Trent has been one of my favorite characters in the music biz. And I will always respect and admire him but this crap really does suck. NIN have lost it.
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Post by ayoPiT0 on Jul 29, 2005 11:17:39 GMT -5
I am too disappointed with it. Trent has been one of my favorite characters in the music biz. And I will always respect and admire him but this crap really does suck. NIN have lost it. Yes that is so true. Trent must have been in a way more happier place with this release. Not only is this song bad... but the video didn't do much for me to like it either.
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Post by [upsilon]™ on Jul 29, 2005 12:41:05 GMT -5
The video is alright, but the song is good. I also don't get the negativity, but we all have different musical tastes.
I also prefer "The Hand That Feeds" to this, since this is much more simplistic, but they are both good.
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Post by halo19 on Jul 29, 2005 22:40:30 GMT -5
I think one good sign for this song's success is that I heard the song on an Active Rock radio station. It wouldn't be worth noting except it's much less rock than "The Hand That Feeds" and less radio friendly.
There are actually quite a bit of GOOD songs on With Teeth (including, incidentally, the title track). But this is one of the few clunkers.
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Post by halo19 on Jul 31, 2005 14:24:26 GMT -5
Oh I'm sure it will reach Top 20, hopefully Top 10 maybe when THTF dies down more, it's bullet will increase a lot I knew obviously it wouldn't take off like the first single...follow up singles never do at first, but I guess I expected it to be around a +300 bullet or something by now On the current Mediabase update it is gaining like 330 spins, which is higher than you expected. I think next week that it will be in the Top 20, and that it probably will be in the Top 10.
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Post by pen on Jul 31, 2005 15:31:17 GMT -5
Personally I like Only. It's upbeat and different for NIN. I'm glad it was chosen to be the new single and I actually wanted it to be the new one since I heard it. There are other tracks on the album that I'd like to see go to radio too like You Know What You Are and Every Day Is Exactly The Same, so I do hope one of those is selected as the next one.
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Post by [upsilon]™ on Jul 31, 2005 22:05:16 GMT -5
Debuts at #20 in the UK.
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Post by jdmasta289 on Jul 31, 2005 23:28:13 GMT -5
40 24 NINE INCH NAILS Only 779 370 +409 3.662 Take that, "Only" haters!!! Seriously though, I agree the lyrics are somewhat simplistic, but I'll give it an A simply for the fact that it's Trent Reznor producing more great music. I'm shocked there is so much hate here for this song. I love the "less concerned about FITTING INTO THE WORLD!!! Your world, that is..." line. Trent definitely adds emotion and a sort of sarcasm to the song by his spoken words. Kind of reminds me of the way the Cake lead singer does his vocals. Hopefully this will hit Top 3 with longevity to prove that "THTF" was no fluke.
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Post by oscillations. on Aug 1, 2005 1:26:57 GMT -5
yes, I figured it would pick up after a bit
I don't think it will be as big as THTF but I do think Top 10 is very possible
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Post by agon666 on Aug 2, 2005 13:19:53 GMT -5
Wow... +529. That is incredible, especially for a second single. Wow.
I like this a lot better then THTF. I think it's funny and enjoyable and one of those "kick back and rock out" songs.
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Post by oscillations. on Aug 14, 2005 2:53:30 GMT -5
Hmm, it was doing so well...now it's kind of stuck in the mid teens.
I still think it will crack the Top 10. The video is getting a shitload of play, which seems to be helping album sales.
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Post by Mr. Joe on Aug 15, 2005 10:11:14 GMT -5
The video is now available at Launch.com if you'd like to see it.
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Post by [upsilon]™ on Aug 15, 2005 10:44:21 GMT -5
Wow... +529. That is incredible, especially for a second single. Wow. I like this a lot better then THTF. I think it's funny and enjoyable and one of those "kick back and rock out" songs. Yeah, I'm almost have to agree. This is very house-sounding; really good.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2005 16:48:09 GMT -5
It's currently #1 with a comfortable bullet. It should be able to keep it for the final update on Sunday. The two and only #1's both from the same album for NIN.. impressive.
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Post by halo19 on Oct 12, 2005 19:29:53 GMT -5
Yeah. Even though I don't like this song, I really do want NIN to be successful. Maybe Trent could do even a third single....
Very surprising for someone who had two #11's from the predecessor album, and both similarly catchy songs.
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Post by tortuga on Nov 21, 2005 18:30:53 GMT -5
I still don't get how it managed to make it to #1. Do people really listen to this song when it gets played? I personally change the channel whenever the video is played on tv. The video is cool, yeah, but I just can't listen to this song. The verses seem to drag on endelessly and the chorus is barely even ctachy.
But I'm happy for NIN though, if a 3rd single is released, then it should have no problem being a hit.
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Post by jdmasta289 on Nov 21, 2005 18:48:37 GMT -5
I'm not all surprised that this is #1 and that it took only 8 or 9 weeks in the top 50 to get there. This is arguably one of Trent Reznor's most brilliant singles, despite it being a more commercial one. In fact, the entire album is more commercial/mainstream-sounding and I'm okay with it. As for this song, the amount of criticism it gets on this board is truly remarkable. It's a brilliant work deserving of a #1. 6 weeks and counting.
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Post by halo19 on Nov 21, 2005 21:27:54 GMT -5
I think I'm the only one who really criticises the song. Don't get me wrong, I love NIN. But parts of With Teeth seem to me like they were created more to fit in with the modern sound. Take the lyrical structure of the downward spiral, use a more neo-wave current sound and mix it with NIN's other albums, and you get that album.
"Only" isn't really terrible, but the structure is clearly taken from "Down in It" and if an artist named Gary Numan didn't exist, it may be somewhat inventive.
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Post by jdmasta289 on Nov 21, 2005 21:30:44 GMT -5
I see your argument, but aren't almost all of the popular alternative artists nowadays borrowing music from earlier bands? I mean, Green Day steals from the Ramones & the Sex Pistols (earlier punk rock), the Bravery clearly rip off Depeche Mode and Bloc Party rip off the Clash. The Strokes rip off numerous late '70s songs.
After awhile, everything you hear begins to sound similar to earlier stuff. That's what has become our format nowadays.
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Post by halo19 on Nov 21, 2005 22:51:16 GMT -5
Well, I guess it's because of my expectations for NIN. If it were a band like Linkin Park, I probably wouldn't take such a note of that. And I actually do like Teeth, but I think that all of the albums released before by the same artist were a lot better.
Now, if people listened to VAST more, they'd know what some really good stuff sounds like that borrows without ever seeming like a ripoff. Haha... In addition, bands like A Perfect Circle and SOAD don't really strike me as strongly resembling anyone else. And while Billy Corgan claimed the Pumpkins were influenced by Queen, Boston, and My Bloody Valentine, to me it's nto that clear except for the latter and it could hardly be called an imitation of MBV's sound.
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