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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2004 9:11:35 GMT -5
"These Words" was a huge international hit and brought comparisons to the critically acclaimed debut by Nelly Furtado. I'd love for this song to break the US, but she has her brother's name working against her.
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Post by jond7699 on Nov 20, 2004 9:21:07 GMT -5
but she has her brother's name working against her. Why would it be working against her ??? I don't think her style fits into todays music scene. Maybe she could make it big with a different album butI don't see her doing anything with "Unwritten" |
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Post by allow that on Nov 20, 2004 9:31:50 GMT -5
I think if she had a proper push she'd have a Top 20, maybe Top 10, Pop single with "These Words." Don't know the rest of her material, but I'd say the US is worth a try for her.
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Post by Peach on Nov 20, 2004 11:23:56 GMT -5
Why would her brother's name work against her?
I don't really think it fits into the US pop chart. Much as I like it, it just wouldn't work here.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Nov 20, 2004 17:18:50 GMT -5
Why would her brother's name work against her? Cuz he sings like a wuss? ? ? |
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Post by George Tropicana on Nov 20, 2004 18:03:16 GMT -5
Yes, I think she can if she puts her mind to it.
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Post by Peach on Nov 21, 2004 1:09:07 GMT -5
Cuz he sings like a wuss? ? ? That doesn't mean anything. He was popular here, wasn't he? That should help, not hurt, her. |
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Post by KikiMets on Nov 21, 2004 1:13:36 GMT -5
That doesn't mean anything. He was popular here, wasn't he? That should help, not hurt, her. But he was basically a novelty act here whose big hits came in spite of his sub-mediocre voice. |
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Post by Peach on Nov 21, 2004 1:36:59 GMT -5
But he was basically a novelty act here whose big hits came in spite of his sub-mediocre voice. Still, I think the fact that he's had big hits here in the not-too-distant past should at least make it slightly easier for her. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2004 5:45:17 GMT -5
When someone who has a sibling in the industry tries to break it, it helps to actually have a sibling who is famous and not a two-hit wonder.
Based on perception of Daniel Bedingfield's latest, it's not looking like he's ever going to have another hit. There's no hype for Natasha. The death of her brother's career put a roadblock in front of her.
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Post by allow that on Nov 21, 2004 10:31:37 GMT -5
There's no hype for Natasha. Rofl. Why would there be? She doesn't even have plans to break the US now. Like most artists who've never even had a single out, most people haven't even heard of her. So just how does lack of hype at this point say anything? And I don't think her brother has anything to do with her. They are 2 different people last time I checked. And to be honest, most people don't even know who Daniel is either, therefore the name doesn't even make a difference. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2004 10:34:42 GMT -5
Rofl. Why would there be? There will be no hype because of her brother and if you think people won't compare them because they've somehow completely erased Daniel from their memory, you're fooling yourself. |
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Post by allow that on Nov 21, 2004 11:52:18 GMT -5
There will be no hype because of her brother and if you think people won't compare them because they've somehow completely erased Daniel from their memory, you're fooling yourself. New artists don't have hype. New artists start with nothing and work their way up, with some exceptions in the Urban music world or AI people. Natasha's no hype makes her no different than anyone else. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2004 12:00:02 GMT -5
New artists don't have hype. New artists start with nothing and work their way up, with some exceptions in the Urban music world or AI people. Natasha's no hype makes her no different than anyone else. Not hype now. If she comes out, there are going to be immediate comparisons to her brother, and they're not going to be positive. |
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Post by allow that on Nov 21, 2004 13:01:24 GMT -5
Not hype now. If she comes out, there are going to be immediate comparisons to her brother, and they're not going to be positive. If you think her brother is so bad (like I do save for his debut single), then wouldn't those comparisons be favorable to her? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2004 13:02:11 GMT -5
If you think her brother is so bad (like I do save for his debut single), then wouldn't those comparisons be favorable to her? No. Just because he's bad makes her good? They're going to lump them together. The fact that she's British will hurt her enough. |
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Post by allow that on Nov 21, 2004 13:03:44 GMT -5
No. Just because he's bad makes her good? They're going to lump them together. The fact that she's British will hurt her enough. Because if they actually compare them, they'll think "Wow Natasha is the winner in this family." Comparing and lumping together are 2 different, contradictory things... so which one is it you think will happen because so far you've said both? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2004 13:05:38 GMT -5
I think they're going to say "GROSS ANOTHER BEDINGFIELD" and throw the promo away.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2004 13:07:44 GMT -5
Oh wait... 17 posts and I finally answered my own question.
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Post by FriendsFan on Dec 1, 2004 23:31:05 GMT -5
Yes.
First with "These Words".
Then "Unwritten" as the second single.
I believe she'll be the breakout star of 2005.
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Post by allow that on Dec 1, 2004 23:36:45 GMT -5
Yes. First with "These Words". Then "Unwritten" as the second single. I believe she'll be the breakout star of 2005. Really though it all comes down to promotion. Her music COULD fit in perfectly at CHR/Pop radio. However, she needs a team that understands American market trends and ways to fit in with them, as well as understanding American radio business. I think there are 2 main reasons why foreign acts can't break America... A) American pop culture, and music, is monopolized by Hollywood hype B) American radio is much more tied up in record label politics than artists and their management are used to back at home, and they don't know how to handle it. In some cases, such as, say, Kylie "Slow" it has to do with a poor single choice that isn't appropriate for this market. However, that's pretty much the point. It shows lack of market research. In order to sell a product, and music is a product, you need to gear it towards market demands. That said I can think of plenty of recent examples of foreign songs that do fit in perfectly with what US radio is playing but the artists and their teams just don't know how to promote it properly. This is why even acts such as Dido and Craig David, to give 2 examples, get lucky with a hit single or two but can't produce a string of hits in this country and never become "hyped up" |
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Post by Pet Shop Boy on Dec 2, 2004 5:38:01 GMT -5
To be fair to Dido, she is pretty big in America. No Hot AC female can get more than one hit per album these days.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2004 13:37:03 GMT -5
To be fair to Dido, she is pretty big in America. No Hot AC female can get more than one hit per album these days. But her second two singles missed the Top 20. Sarah McLachlan got three singles into the Top 20 from her album. Sheryl Crow got both of her greatest hits singles into the Top 10. |
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Post by Libra on Dec 2, 2004 17:31:20 GMT -5
Australia's Delta Goodrem hasn't done it yet; why would Natasha succeed?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2004 17:49:06 GMT -5
Australia's Delta Goodrem hasn't done it yet; why would Natasha succeed? Delta hasn't even released anything here. Not only that, but I don't see the comparison. |
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Post by Libra on Dec 2, 2004 18:17:29 GMT -5
Delta hasn't even released anything here. Natasha has? Not only that, but I don't see the comparison. How about that they're both big international stars? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2004 18:18:59 GMT -5
I was asking if Natasha were to release "These Words" here, do people think it would be a hit? Your answer was no because Delta hasn't had a hit here yet. I see no connection other than that by your logic Natasha can't have a hit until Delta has a hit.
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Post by Libra on Dec 2, 2004 18:32:04 GMT -5
I was asking if Natasha were to release "These Words" here, do people think it would be a hit? Your answer was no because Delta hasn't had a hit here yet. I see no connection other than that by your logic Natasha can't have a hit until Delta has a hit. I was answering by the way this topic was worded as opposed to the way you worded it now (bold). Maybe I'm misguided, but I would think it would take more than one hit for someone to break the US. |
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Post by shark cousteau on Dec 4, 2004 0:37:27 GMT -5
Yes. First with "These Words". Then "Unwritten" as the second single. if her releases are anything like in the u.k. and here in nz then its 'single' first, then 'these words'. personally i think this is the best way to go. 'single' is a kinda anthem for singles who are happy being so, an builds a bit of a "have u heard this song by that girl" buzz. then these words, which is better, blows away the competiton. 3 weeks #1 in u.k. and 2 @#2 in nz. the beat is strong in this song, and the lyrics are about the struggle to come up with the perfect song "though i had some studio time booked/i couldnt find the killer hook". she will be big as her brother because she posses the same good looks, vocal strength an down-to-earthness. maybe not an overnight success, but watch out for her in years to come |
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Post by FriendsFan on Dec 5, 2004 18:09:10 GMT -5
I don't like "Single".
On Billboard.com, someone asked if Natasha would release something here in America soon and that dude said nothing's planned.
Emma's "Free Me" album is out late January though!!
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