Crossfade - Invincible

[pen]

Funny because Idiot and I were just talking about this band. Their first single from their sophomore album which is due out on August 1st. No title for the album or add date for the single yet.

I'm very interested to see what direction they go in with this album. I didn't think their debut was anything special but they turned out to be a very good live act, so I hope they've managed to incorporate that into their recording.

[jdmasta289]

Oooh, baby. Big deal.

Speaking of which, has "Cold" fallen off the charts yet, or will we have to give it another 12 weeks or so?

All kidding aside, I saw a cross between old-school Metallica and Soundgarden on their last album. To me, that is a good thing. "So Far Away" and "Colors" impressed me much more though. They seem to have gotten stuck into that Breaking Benjamin/Chevelle category, but hopefully they can write something different and, perhaps, better, than their debut disc.

(OK, shifting into SunnyScorpio mode....)

Can they expand their sound or market their music well to cater to an increasingly emo and indie-leaning format, or will they suffer the "Cold" syndrome? My outside prediction:

#7

[pen]

Well, I can't say I disagree with you because I myself lump them into that Breaking Benjamin and Chevelle category, mostly because I think they belong there. I haven't heard anything from them to make me think otherwise, and that's including the songs they played when I saw them last that they said were going toward the new album, but that was ages ago so who knows what's happened since then.

Will they find success again this time around? I think it's the right time for it at least. Evans Blue is a similar kind of band and they've done alright for themselves, and Three Days Grace doesn't seem to have any trouble with their new single. Lostprophets and Breaking Benjamin will be pushed around when Crossfade will and I'm pretty sure Chevelle will also step in line around that time. I think the right environment is being set up. The conditions were more or less the same when Crossfade's first album came out, and now they have the memory of three hit singles to go on.

Now, will that work for them? It depends. I thought Cold, Taproot, and Trapt were all going to do great, and look what happened. I think radio is such a fickle thing, and even then it doesn't say anything about album sales. It doesn't even seem worth it to try to predict anymore.

[Nicholas2.0]

jdmasta289 said:

I saw a cross between old-school Metallica and Soundgarden on their last album.

O-kaaayyy.... "Old-school" Metallica is everything pre-Black Album and Soundgarden are much more deep and musically complex than you seem to be giving them credit for.

[pen]

I actually don't get that either and I like Crossfade.

[jdmasta289]

nicholas said:

jdmasta289 said:

I saw a cross between old-school Metallica and Soundgarden on their last album.

O-kaaayyy.... "Old-school" Metallica is everything pre-Black Album and Soundgarden are much more deep and musically complex than you seem to be giving them credit for.

Ok, now that I truly think about it, I'll concede that it doesn't sound as much like "old-school" Metallica (in your words), which was more speed-metal than the "sell-out" band (tongue-in-cheek) we're accustomed to today.

But when I think of Crossfade's sound, especially Ed Sloan's vocals, I think of James Hetfield.  Their musical style reflects a band following in the footsteps of Soundgarden.  I believe they are also heavily influenced by Metallica (Sloan has stated so).  They may not be as talented as them, as you, Nicholas, are pointing out.  That doesn't matter.  What I was trying to say was that I can tell through their music and the singer's delivery that those are two bands that heavily influence them.

Even though Crossfade don't really do anything highly original, and they are a sound we have definitely heard before, I actually really like them as well.

(All apologies, I'm making all kinds of spelling and grammatical errors this morning.)

[Crushcrushchris]

For the record, Breaking Benjamin and Crossfade played an acoustic "fan appreciation" radio show that I went to...one of the last shows K-Rock did as K-Rock before switching formats.

It was very well done...I got to hear Cold and So Cold...personally, I'm waiting for the mashup .

I hope that Crossfade's single and album do well.

However, I think they lost a little bit on their live act once Tony left.

[Nicholas2.0]

jdmasta289 said:

But when I think of Crossfade's sound, especially Ed Sloan's vocals, I think of James Hetfield.  Their musical style reflects a band following in the footsteps of Soundgarden.  I believe they are also heavily influenced by Metallica (Sloan has stated so).  They may not be as talented as them, as you, Nicholas, are pointing out.  That doesn't matter.  What I was trying to say was that I can tell through their music and the singer's delivery that those are two bands that heavily influence them.

Okay, well there's a huge difference in saying their record sounds like "a cross between old-school Metallica and Soundgarden" and just saying those are two bands they are clearly influenced by. I don't disagree that they are. If they are influenced by Metallica, however, all that's evident in their music is '90's-era Metallica. And I don't know about James Hetfield, but I'd be willing to bet that Chris Cornell wouldn't want to claim any responsibility for influencing Crossfade and most of their peers.

I like Crossfade's three singles just fine, although it took forever for me to come around on "Cold," which seems to have been the case for most of America. I don't, however, respect them as a band, based on those three songs.

[pen]

Well Seether toured with Audioslave, and Crossfade toured with Seether.

OMG link by proxy.

[jdmasta289]

That's true. I mean, if Audioslave chose to tour with Seether, then maybe Cornell wouldn't mind being linked to a "copycat" band like Crossfade. I mean, Seether and Crossfade are quite similar. Pure speculation, though.

[Nicholas2.0]

I don't mean to drag this on any further, especially after having been away for several days, but I just want to point out that bigger bands don't always get to choose who opens for them. Some don't even care sometimes.

[pen]

nicholas said:

I don't mean to drag this on any further, especially after having been away for several days, but I just want to point out that bigger bands don't always get to choose who opens for them.  Some don't even care sometimes.

I would think that the bigger a band is, the more likely it is that they would choose their own touring partners. Examples include System Of A Down and the Mars Volta, Nine Inch Nails with QOTSA, and Foo Fighters with Weezer, and they all chose their openers as well. I think you can reasonably assume that even if Audioslave didn't choose Seether to tour with them, they at least had no problems with them being on the tour.

[pen]

Goes for adds June 27th.

[Crushcrushchris]

They may have pushed the album back because the album was supposed to see release on August 1st. It'd make no sense if the album were to come out the very next week.

[pen]

cfw828 said:

They may have pushed the album back because the album was supposed to see release on August 1st. It'd make no sense if the album were to come out the very next week.

You know, sometimes I pretend July doesn't exist too, but that's unfair to the poor month. It didn't ask to be between June and August. It's just minding it's own business.

[Crushcrushchris]

I'd take that back, but it's too late now

[allnightmarelong]

the new album will be called, "Falling Away" due out August 29th.

[onelessreason]

Song should definitely be released sometime next week...

Until then, you can enjoy this brand new snippet

Crossfade - Invincible

www.fmqbproductions.com/epks/2006/crossfade/

[Crushcrushchris]

66.186.0.101/allaccess/crosinvi.wma

This is so different from what I expected.

It's...OK, but I'd have preferred something heavier. I'd actually rather that they'd have had Cage or Jagged as a single (songs that they recorded back in their Sugardaddy Superstar days and performed live).

[pen]

This is only okay. The chorus is pretty weak. If they made it more like "So Far Away", it'd be so much better. I remember "Cage" and "Jagged". I hope those made it to this album.

[Chato]

I like this and I bet it will grow on me even more. They've tasted mainstream success with Cold and now it seems like they want more , that's ok for me , but they might end up just like Default or Trapt .

[allnightmarelong]

www.myspace.com/crossfade
once again, myspace is the place to go to hear a new song.

[Matt4319]

I don't think this one will cross over, but aside from a bridge that's a little rough, I like it.

[Pipa]

...And Crossfade releases another incredibly generic song.

[crve015]

I have nothing bad to say about this band. However, "Invincible" might be their weakest single to date. I predict that it will have the same level of success as "Colors." Three Days Grace, Breaking Benjamin, and Stone Sour (and possibly Hinder) are likely to keep this song from reaching the top.

[jdmasta289]

The lyrics and chorus are weak, and it really isn't a progression from their last record. It's not heavy like I wanted it to be - and it really lacks that returning "in your face again" power that I think Breaking Benjamin and Three Days Grace have achieved or almost achieved with their first singles.

It's decent, and maybe I need to give it some time to grow. But it's really more of a weak man's "Cold", which is a crying shame.

[American Idiot]

Its definitely not as heavy as any of their other songs from their self-titled album, and can kind of be considered a ballad.. I think its really comparable to Trapt's new stuff, Shinedown's "I Dare You", or Hinder's "Lips Of An Angel". The chorus isn't too memorable and just as JD described, its missing that "in your face" punch that they gave with each single from their last album.

I think its a rather good song and probably will do well on the charts, but they probably shouldn't have chose this as a first single. Now I'm eager to hear if they changed their sound on the rest of the album to similar sounds like this or have some of their old style.

[reception]

admin said:

aside from a bridge that's a little rough, I like it.

[jdmasta289]

50 46 CROSSFADE Invincible 204 172 32 0.602 (Alternative)

32 26 CROSSFADE Invincible 373 252 121 1.118 (Active Rock)

I know bullets may be slightly down from July 4th weekend, but geez. I could say they would still do fine if they only promoted at Active Rock, but the two formats are still so close anyway. I'm surprised no active-leaning alt. stations are even playing this. Quite disappointing so far. I'll give it a couple more weeks before giving my opinion on its results.

[allnightmarelong]

Im a lil disappointed with this song. It just doesnt sound that inspired. reminds me of Right Here by Staind... just alright, not catchy like previous songs.