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Post by pen on Aug 31, 2006 0:18:26 GMT -5
First single from their new album called Blood Stained Love Story, coming out in February of 2007. Song goes for adds sometime in October according to Josey Scott.
Say what you will about them (as I'm sure you will), but I've always liked their whole "Motley Crue-brand rock star" angle, especially on their later albums, although My Goodbyes from Every Six Seconds is probably my favorite song from them.
I kind of liked the old title of this album, The Rise And Fall Of A Glorified Kingdom, a lot better, but as long as the album's good, I have no complaints.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Aug 31, 2006 1:32:22 GMT -5
*shudder* Gross.
Not one of their singles has been good. It was painful seeing them graduate from biggest-rock-band-in-Memphis to a national band with a string of several successful singles. (*nauseated emoticon*)
"Always" was their only song that was halfway decent.
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Post by jdmasta289 on Aug 31, 2006 11:11:09 GMT -5
I was thinking about this exact topic last night and had trouble getting to sleep because of it (yes, believe it!). It seems to me Saliva have suffered an image problem since their beginning, or around 2001 when Every :06 came out. It struck me as incredibly bizarre to see a black-haired, tattoo-laden badboy go directly from singing songs about diseases and killing people to singing sultry love ballads alongside Chad Kroeger. Ugh...it's as if they completely gave up posing as motorcycle-driving badasses, but wanted you to feel sorry for them in the process.
That said, if they truly went for more of a Buckcherry/Avenged Sevenfold "we're bad and we don't give an itsch" image instead of a "we're badboy, but please take me seriously and understand my personal issues", they would be much better off, and I may actually enjoy listening to a few of their songs. They lost me after "Rest In Pieces", but I actually thought "Click Click Boom" almost achieved this. They would make a great novelty band.
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Post by pen on Aug 31, 2006 12:29:29 GMT -5
You do know that the song Your Disease is a metaphor, right?
But at any rate, let me begin by pointing out that Every Six Seconds was probably as heavy as it was in order to cash in on the flood of similar-sounding nu-metal bands around the time. If you've never heard Saliva's debut self-titled, it's not as far removed from Back Into Your System or Survival Of The Sickest as Every Six Seconds is. In fact, the only two tracks rerecorded from the self-titled for Every Six Seconds were Beg and Greater Than/Less Than, two of the heaviest tracks, while other ones like Cellophane and Call It Something were left behind.
That having been said, I feel that Survival Of The Sickest is exactly the kind of album that Josey and Saliva always wanted to make from the beginning. Back Into Your System came close, but probably Josey's success with Hero (which he admits was a mistake, he got screwed over from the deal, and the song Fuck All Y'All is about his experience) required that the band make a few ballads to cash in on that avenue. Survival Of The Sickest for the most part is pure beer-fueled rockstar-lifestyle over-the-topness. Now why would they want to make an album like that?
Let's start with Rest In Pieces. That song in particular was Josey living a dream because that song was written by Nikki Sixx of Motley Crue for Josey and Saliva to use. I doubt Josey would've turned it down for anything in the world, and it's not a bad song either. The point is that the story of Rest In Pieces goes a longer way than anything else to explain the kind of band that Saliva is supposed to be.
Certainly Josey and Saliva have written enough non-serious songs about the rock and roll lifestyle on all their albums to cover that angle of their image. From System and Sickest, there are the title tracks, as well as Superstar II, Raise Up, Rock 'N' Roll Revolution, Bait And Switch, and One Night Only. All of them, either dead serious or poking fun, are about this whole idea of a rock star life being about girls, beer, fans, girls, lights, drugs, girls, crowds, fame, girls, money, girls, and girls. Which is exactly what Saliva tries to live up to in their lyrics and their videos.
They are allowed to have a "serious" side too though. Even Motley Crue stopped the party to write about something else once in a while, and lo and behold, that's the difference between Saliva and Buckcherry and Avenged Sevenfold. I've heard both latter bands compared to Guns 'N' Roses at times, and that's not far from the mark, but it's pretty obvious that Saliva wants to be Motley Crue, and that's what they're going for. Partly cheesy, partly corny. Crunchy on the outside and chewy on the inside. Cock rock. If there's no other band in the world that truly fits that definition, there doesn't really need to be, because that term is perfect to describe this.
I personally have liked all four previous Saliva albums. I think they do miss on occassion but overall I think they write some effective songs for the kind of band they are. My Goodbyes, a song written about the death of Josey's father, is an especially good one. There are others but I'm not going to accomplish anything by rattling off a list of my favorite songs.
My point is that Saliva is what it is. It's not Click Click Boom and it's not Hero either or Your Disease or Always or whatever single you want to call out. They're both a little more and a little less than that. I expect the new album to continue in that direction, although Josey says he's been listening to Jet lately, so maybe Island will tell them to incorporate that. Certainly Survival did poorly enough to where the label has their hands a bit in the band's direction again.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Sept 2, 2006 15:18:39 GMT -5
Josey says he's been listening to Jet lately, so maybe Island will tell them to incorporate that. Sure songs like "Cold Hard Bitch" and the swagger of "Are You Gonna Be My Girl" could be something of interest to Josey, but I'd think Jet would have way too much in common with the "the" bands that Josey trashed as "not rock & roll" when promoting (and writing?) Survival of the Sickest two years ago. Ponderous.
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Post by tortuga on Sept 2, 2006 15:59:32 GMT -5
I always thought they had one of the coolest band names. Saliva? Yum.
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Post by pen on Sept 20, 2006 1:07:05 GMT -5
Ladies And Gentlemen, November 7th.
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Post by pen on Oct 27, 2006 0:52:30 GMT -5
This song is now available for listening on Saliva's website. Honestly, I think this is the best single they've made in a dog's age. It's rockin, it's loud, it's got rhythm, and the lyrics sound well thought out (for the subject material). It's got a P.O.D. "Boom" vibe to it, if that makes any sense. I hope this is the single that puts them back in the public eye. They're so much better at the whole "cock rock" thing than Hinder.
"Do you want it? Do you need it? Let me hear it! Ladies and gentlemen!"
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Post by twistedlogic04 on Oct 27, 2006 2:08:08 GMT -5
I like them, "Survival of The Sickest" and "Rest In Pieces" were great songs!
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Post by American Idiot on Oct 27, 2006 11:01:14 GMT -5
Yes, no matter what this new album will sound like, this is a great choice for an opening single. I don't know if its my favorite single they've ever made since there's been quite a few that are hard to top, but this is damn damn damn good. Just the plain old rockin' Saliva that I'm used to hearing from.
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Post by crve015 on Oct 28, 2006 20:10:25 GMT -5
I like this song a lot. It seems to be getting more early airplay than the last lead single.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Survival Of The Sickest is as good as their other albums.
To this day, my favorite single from Saliva is still "After Me."
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Post by allnightmarelong on Oct 30, 2006 21:21:56 GMT -5
I really like this one. I'll be pretty pissed if they make a 'Cracked Out Circus' video. please, make a good video for a good song. don't make crap!
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Post by reception on Dec 6, 2006 17:16:54 GMT -5
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Post by snowles on Dec 7, 2006 1:52:20 GMT -5
I'm torn on this one, and I'm a big fan of Saliva.
I think this will do well if it is accompanied by an awesome music video on the television circuit. However, the song just doesn't have much to hold it up on radio.
Is it just me, or does this sound like a mash-up of every other single Saliva song? You can distinctly pick out sections from their other singles, and while I doubt it's intentional, it's pretty cool. During the whole chorus, I am expecting him to shout 'click, click, boom'.
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Post by Matt4319 on Jan 16, 2007 1:43:49 GMT -5
If there were ever a song to begin a setlist...
Guilty pleasure-ish, but I like it.
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Jan 23, 2007 20:58:18 GMT -5
This is the official theme song to Wrestlemania 23.
Well, having heard the album, I have to say that I'm kinda disappointed. They had to pretty much sellout on this one. Good balance and all throughout...but all of it sounds rehashed. One of the songs reminds me of Nickelback's Animals through the verses. Another reminds me of Kelly Clarkson (WTF) and I believe one of the first songs on the album has a little of a Clocks sound to it. I wasn't even looking out for that stuff 'cause it was the first time I listened to it. I really wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt, but they blew it.
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Jan 23, 2007 23:28:18 GMT -5
This is soooooo 2001.
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Post by pen on Jan 24, 2007 0:15:16 GMT -5
This is the official theme song to Wrestlemania 23. Well, having heard the album, I have to say that I'm kinda disappointed. They had to pretty much sellout on this one. Good balance and all throughout...but all of it sounds rehashed. One of the songs reminds me of Nickelback's Animals through the verses. Another reminds me of Kelly Clarkson (WTF) and I believe one of the first songs on the album has a little of a Clocks sound to it. I wasn't even looking out for that stuff 'cause it was the first time I listened to it. I really wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt, but they blew it. I disagree. I like this album a lot more than the last one, even though it's way too short, even with the two bonus tracks I have. I wish there were more songs like Ladies And Gentlemen, Black Sheep, and King Of The Stereo, but I think even the lighter fare like Never Gonna Change (which should by all rights be the next single) is good stuff. I think a lot of it comes with the time they've spent with their new best friends in 3 Doors Down.
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Post by warlez on Jan 29, 2007 1:16:04 GMT -5
I think this album while it has some shitty music like "twister" man that made me go what the f*ck are they making. Anyway Saliva is a band that doesn't get the airplay they deserve anymore and the success of ladies and gentlemen is well overdue. Rock radio now is basically turned into lets listen to Incubus and RHCP and Coheed and slow smoke out our asses. Saliva brings back some real rock attitude thats been missing for years. The next single they should let out in order to hopefully push some crossover success such as "Always" should be "Starting Over" while it may be seen as a sell out even Motley Crue did ''Home Sweet Home''. I saw them last week in Phoenix and they were awesome Josey does need to move around a bit more.
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Post by pen on Jan 29, 2007 10:26:34 GMT -5
Blow smoke out of your ass. Incubus, RHCP, and Coheed rule and if you judge music based on "attitude" then you've missed the point of music.
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Post by pen on Jan 31, 2007 11:36:53 GMT -5
This album hit #17 on the charts and sold just over 26,000 copies. Not horrible, but not great, and I don't think they have the staying power to turn this into a good thing. I mostly expect them to be dropped from Island after this album, which could turn out to be great if they make the right decisions thereafter.
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Post by jdmasta289 on Feb 3, 2007 7:21:06 GMT -5
I'm glad to see Saliva returning to their roots. It's just original, in-your-face cock-rock, and that seems to be something Saliva could be good at. It would be even better if they could bring in one of those NASCAR announcers to recite "Ladies and gentlemen". A few more gun noises and bombs exploding and I might be in Saliva heaven (no, wait...)
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Post by pen on Feb 13, 2007 18:26:33 GMT -5
#1 on Active Rock. Will Breaking Benjamin overtake them? Probably. Do I smell payola at work? Possibly, but it doesn't seem to be doing them any good, unfortunately.
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Feb 13, 2007 18:33:25 GMT -5
This is the one song I like the most from the album, even though I didn't think the album was spectacular, so I'm glad it's doing well.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Feb 16, 2007 3:34:47 GMT -5
This isn't a radio single. As Matt stated, it's a setlist opener...and nothing more. This song is just so hollow.
The better songs it reminds me of are Marilyn Manson's "This Is the New S**t" and Pink Floyd's "In the Flesh(?)".
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Post by Pipa on Feb 24, 2007 22:10:03 GMT -5
So I finally bothered to give a couple good listens to this. It really is 3 minutes of nothing. I probably would've liked this in 2002, but for now the most I can say is that it's better than "Survival of the Sickest". How this got to #1 on active rock is beyond me.
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Post by pen on Feb 24, 2007 23:03:39 GMT -5
I don't know, it probably has a lot to do with who I suspect are the key listeners of active rock?
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Post by Pipa on Feb 25, 2007 8:12:28 GMT -5
Well, besides that, it's way too bland for #1.
Looking at the chart I'd say bands like Breaking Benjamin and Stone Sour are more deserving.
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Post by pen on Feb 25, 2007 9:35:05 GMT -5
Probably, I'm not going to argue that, and it's also probable that Island did something to push that single to the top.
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Post by nimrod97 on Dec 12, 2007 22:44:03 GMT -5
I really like this one. I'll be pretty pissed if they make a 'Cracked Out Circus' video. please, make a good video for a good song. don't make crap! how could they make a cracked out circus video for something that is clearly describing a magic show? lol
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