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Post by Chato on Feb 9, 2007 13:51:24 GMT -5
This is moving up the Active chart at a very fast pace. Seems like both active and alt are looking for new songs now , after playing songs like The Pot , Animal I Have Become , Through Glass etc. to death.
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dummomusic
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Post by dummomusic on Feb 11, 2007 17:57:21 GMT -5
Is that all anybody cares about anymore?!? You guys do realize that there is so much more to a song then a hook! I understand that being catchy and having a hook is important when it comes to popularity, but does anyone in here appreciate the artistic value, the point, the cadences, the hypnotic power, etc.? I don't know, maybe I've got my head in the wrong place, but come on.
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Post by pen on Feb 11, 2007 20:58:59 GMT -5
Is that all anybody cares about anymore?!? You guys do realize that there is so much more to a song then a hook! I understand that being catchy and having a hook is important when it comes to popularity, but does anyone in here appreciate the artistic value, the point, the cadences, the hypnotic power, etc.? I don't know, maybe I've got my head in the wrong place, but come on. For one thing, the cadences of a song are pretty much of importance to absolutely no one except for music theorists, and I've been told, by my theory teachers no less, that listening to music with the analytical mind of theorist is a very sorry way to go through life. The artistic value of a song, the point of the song, is meaningless if no one can remember what it was an hour after hearing it. It is the hooks of a song that keep it in our mind and keep us humming the tunes for days and weeks on end, and eventually, it is these groups that enter our cultural lexicon and rise from being nothing more than a band to being something approaching an icon. Tool has crossed over into that rare territory, in my opinion, and it strikes me that they must have some kind of hook in their music to keep listeners coming back to them. Maybe you won't find yourself humming Tool on the bus, but despite what I said before, hooks don't necessarily have to mean that you're humming it. Hooks are like candy, you're drawn back for more. You hear a good song and maybe you want to hear it again, and again, and again. I'm thinking of hooks as a mental thing rather than an actual musical invention that you can pinpoint. You said hypnotic power, and I guess that's what I mean. Hooks are everything, and it's not a defining factor of good or bad but of memorable and unmemorable. If there's any reason why any of us remembers a song during the day, it's because it's hooked us somehow. What are your favorite songs? I guarantee they're that way because they have a hook that's caught your attention.
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Post by Pipa on Feb 11, 2007 21:46:52 GMT -5
I know hooks aren't everything, but please, if I'm listening to a 7 and a half minute the least I can ask is that I actually remember it.
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Post by dummomusic on Feb 12, 2007 2:58:08 GMT -5
penance, you make a very valid and interesting point. I've never really thought of it in those terms. I guess I'm a little too far into the mindset of writing music to write music, but when that happens, hooks have a tendancy to happen. Thank you for your perspective. In retrospect, this is just another reason for me to focus more on the things that i want to write instead of being envious of those who have already made it.
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Post by reception on Mar 18, 2007 15:04:58 GMT -5
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