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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 18:27:54 GMT -5
Post by codenut on Oct 2, 2003 18:27:54 GMT -5
I just talked to Pookie and she said that she was banned. Can anyone give a logic reason why? Because if this is what I think this is..........she was speaking her opinion. God, she's 15. Are we gonna pull a RIAA and start going after the youngesters again?
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 18:31:06 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2003 18:31:06 GMT -5
Personal attacks are not allowed on the board. Discrimination is certainly out of the question. Finally, she made four non-music related topics in the week that we've had this board.
There was no objection from any member of administration.
We had a talk and decided that she never did anything on R&R but make unnecessary comments. So this is not something that was decided by one member. It was decided by the staff here as well as some members who complained.
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 18:33:12 GMT -5
Post by Edf85 on Oct 2, 2003 18:33:12 GMT -5
She was being very rude :(
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 18:34:18 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2003 18:34:18 GMT -5
Tell her that she will be unbanned next Thursday. This is a warning. After that, if any administrator has to speak to her again, she will be deleted.
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 18:38:03 GMT -5
Post by codenut on Oct 2, 2003 18:38:03 GMT -5
Oh my god......you letting a 15 year-old bother you
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 18:38:40 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2003 18:38:40 GMT -5
She's a 15 year-old girl...........she doesn't fully understand right from wrong I like Pookie & I truely think she deserves a second chance. I am a 15 year old boy and I know that I act a hell of a lot more mature than her. I never call people "gay" because I disagree with them. We have gay members here, and that word should not be thrown around with a negative connotation. Period. She is banned for one week. Contact me then, and she will be unbanned. She's lucky she's banned and not deleted. Also, if anyone speaks to atomicaloud, he will be unbanned on Monday.
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 18:40:08 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2003 18:40:08 GMT -5
Oh my god......you letting a 15 year-old bother you I am 15. You're talking like I should give her more chances because she's 15. I'm 15 and I've never pulled what she's been doing. If she wants to come here and act like everyone else and post about music, she is welcome. If she wants to come here and call members gay, she can find somewhere else to post.
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 18:52:44 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2003 18:52:44 GMT -5
Finally, now that you're obviously using age as your excuse, going back and editing the initial post. Age is NEVER an excuse. Everybody has to learn sometime. The rules run on maturity, not age. If you're 15, you do not act out of line and then blame it on age. Do I say things like "Oooh codenut... He is such a gay homo. He is so wrong all the time. Freakin gay person! What is he on?" No, and no one else is allowed to whether they're 5 or 95. If you can't be mature, you can't post. Simple as that. ...and do you survive on drama? Since we've left R&R, all you've been doing is trying to deal with other people's problems by throwing out excuse after excuse. Take a lesson from MJB.
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Edf85
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 18:56:16 GMT -5
Post by Edf85 on Oct 2, 2003 18:56:16 GMT -5
Take a lesson from MJB.
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 19:04:00 GMT -5
Post by codenut on Oct 2, 2003 19:04:00 GMT -5
Excuse Me? ???
I'm not gonna edit my post just because you believe something is wrong with it.........I have just as much of a right as you do to post.
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 19:12:34 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2003 19:12:34 GMT -5
Excuse Me? ??? I'm not gonna edit my post just because you believe something is wrong with it.........I have just as much of a right as you do to post. Nobody ever said to go edit your post. Also replying to something you said in your original post after you edited it, "she was just stating her opinion". Yeah, that's nice. I have a lot of opinions, but I keep them to myself.
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 19:29:08 GMT -5
Post by Matt4319 on Oct 2, 2003 19:29:08 GMT -5
Okay, I have to clarify a couple of things here. Finally, she made four non-music related topics in the week that we've had this board. First of all, that's not true. She made three posts, the one in question that was deleted, and two in the Alternative forum. And even if what you said is true, is that bad? There are off-topic forums here, too. Assuming you're talking about me and you when you say "we", I never said anything to that effect. I only pointed out that ( 1 ) she didn't like you and ( 2 ) she made a personal attack.[/quote]
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 19:30:54 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2003 19:30:54 GMT -5
Personal attacks are not allowed. She's banned for ONE week. It's not that serious. Nobody else is doing it. Why is it such a problem for her?
...and I wasn't talking about you. I spoke to several members who thought her actions justifed her banning.
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 19:38:20 GMT -5
Post by Rob64 on Oct 2, 2003 19:38:20 GMT -5
I don't think you guys should be banning people left and right. Pookie is harmless. She's always been like that. I think you should have at least sent her a PM asking her to be nice before banning her.
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 19:39:49 GMT -5
Post by Matt4319 on Oct 2, 2003 19:39:49 GMT -5
I'm going to unban Pookie temporarily so she can tell her side of the story. I've also changed the powers so that only I can ban people.
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Oct 2, 2003 19:41:56 GMT -5
Post by Rob64 on Oct 2, 2003 19:41:56 GMT -5
Bannings should be a rare thing. Only if the person does something serious.
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Oct 2, 2003 19:43:10 GMT -5
Post by allow that on Oct 2, 2003 19:43:10 GMT -5
Oh my god. have you guys not learned ANYTHING from UMG. Steven?
At R&R the moderators had a rule.... do NOT use the boards as a way to communicate thoughts/messages for banned members. I think this rule should apply here as well. It's always asking for trouble.
I personally found Pookie's post offensive, and I'm straight. So imagine how our gay posters must have felt.
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 19:52:15 GMT -5
Post by codenut on Oct 2, 2003 19:52:15 GMT -5
Oh my god. have you guys not learned ANYTHING from UMG. Steven? I'm sorry Adam.........I was just saying my opinons on this matter
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 20:00:20 GMT -5
Post by BFMR on Oct 2, 2003 20:00:20 GMT -5
wait... shouldn't there have been like a WARNING instead of a flat out ban? I never truly saw anything that rude in Pookie's post... sure it wasn't pleasant and it wasn't of very good taste, but what are words?? this IS the internet after all.
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 20:01:57 GMT -5
Post by pookie on Oct 2, 2003 20:01:57 GMT -5
woohoo, I'm a flaming topic! oops, am I allowed to say "flaming"? Josh, I'm sorry for my "personal attack." I should have thought more about what I was going to post first. I stand by my view that Josh should not be a moderator though, this is exactly the reason. He's about throwing power around and pretending to be important, and telling people what to do. Matt is trying to keep things cool, and I totally respect that. he does not have a God complex. And me saying that opinion doesn't violate any rules of this board. So, I promise not to use the word "gay" lol, since that apparently offends some people. My life goes on whether I can post here or not, but if you guys want more people here, no one should be trying to chase people off for something so silly. But I hope you've all seen why Josh shouldnt be in charge of anything, since he will lie about whatever to make his points (and lecture with giant pictures, lol) anyway, i guess thats all I'm allowed to say before I go back on the shit list, thanks Matt for letting me say my piece, and I'm not trying to cause problems for you, I will do what you said and talk to you first next time before i post something about board matters or whatever. check you guys later ! (I've deleted a comment made about an unnamed poster. That's the type of comment that's better left kept to themselves.)
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 20:05:54 GMT -5
Post by allow that on Oct 2, 2003 20:05:54 GMT -5
wait... shouldn't there have been like a WARNING instead of a flat out ban? I never truly saw anything that rude in Pookie's post... sure it wasn't pleasant and it wasn't of very good taste, but what are words?? this IS the internet after all. This is a warning... she was only banned for a week, not forever. Guys, I really think we should leave this situation up to the Administrator and the two mods... and not get involved in it. I also want to add that I doubt some of you would be complaing, or even noticing, the ban had it not been from someone who's in your circle of internet chat buddies.
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Oct 2, 2003 20:08:00 GMT -5
Post by Rob64 on Oct 2, 2003 20:08:00 GMT -5
Finally, now that you're obviously using age as your excuse, going back and editing the initial post. Age is NEVER an excuse. Everybody has to learn sometime. The rules run on maturity, not age. If you're 15, you do not act out of line and then blame it on age. Do I say things like "Oooh codenut... He is such a gay homo. He is so wrong all the time. Freakin gay person! What is he on?" No, and no one else is allowed to whether they're 5 or 95. If you can't be mature, you can't post. Simple as that. ...and do you survive on drama? Since we've left R&R, all you've been doing is trying to deal with other people's problems by throwing out excuse after excuse. Take a lesson from MJB. You should ban yourself because you violated the rules. you posted a pic bigger than the max that Matt said is allowed. Delete yourself, now! Don't even give yourself a warning! ;) ;) just kidding, rebirth. you're a great poster. i like you a lot as a poster, just not as a mod. that's my opinion. but it's all good. there's always room for improvement. you'll get better at it
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 20:09:20 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2003 20:09:20 GMT -5
What is the maximum size and how can I fix it?
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 20:11:39 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2003 20:11:39 GMT -5
From now on, I promise not to comment on anyone's attitude or personal attacks. I will simply move and close topics.
Matt can deal with the drama, since it doesn't go over well when I deal with it.
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 20:13:20 GMT -5
Post by Keith3000 on Oct 2, 2003 20:13:20 GMT -5
This is a warning... she was only banned for a week, not forever. Guys, I really think we should leave this situation up to the Administrator and the two mods... and not get involved in it. I also want to add that I doubt some of you would be complaing, or even noticing, the ban had it not been from someone who's in your circle of internet chat buddies. I agree with Adam. These moderators were selected for a reason and we all shouldn't get involved even when concerning something as serious as banning. Matt, Tony and Josh, you guys have the sense, I am sure, to give sufficient warning to any individual who is seen as a potential banned poster. If someone is to be finally banned, then so be it. Warnings, of course, should always be given. Even for radiorules..ok maybe only one warning fo him...
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Pookie
Oct 2, 2003 20:24:01 GMT -5
Post by Matt4319 on Oct 2, 2003 20:24:01 GMT -5
Okay... everyone take a deep breath... and settle down. :) Good.
Pookie will be back in a week, and that's final. Hopefully she's learned to hold her tongue a little bit more. I'm closing the topic.
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