|
Post by muscleclub on Jan 6, 2006 17:25:41 GMT -5
Here we go again! 'All Access' had Jan. 24 as the adds date for "U and Your Finger Hand". Is that history now?
|
|
Gold Soundz
5x Platinum Member
Banned
Joined: October 2003
Posts: 5,727
|
Post by Gold Soundz on Jan 6, 2006 17:42:17 GMT -5
What an awful decision. It doesn't matter how good the video is - the song is terribly mediocre and unless the HQ version is a million times better, this isn't going to do anything on radio and it certainly won't sell an album. You and Your Hand was a bonafide pop smash.
|
|
|
Post by Love Plastic Love on Jan 6, 2006 17:42:50 GMT -5
I liked Hand better. Meh.
|
|
Waffles
Charting
Joined: November 2005
Posts: 211
|
Post by Waffles on Jan 6, 2006 17:59:09 GMT -5
I liked Hand better. Meh.
|
|
MusicJunkie
6x Platinum Member
Joined: April 2005
Posts: 6,807
|
Post by MusicJunkie on Jan 6, 2006 18:05:00 GMT -5
Who cares?! Pink is BACK!
|
|
Hook
6x Platinum Member
You take me higher and higher
Joined: October 2005
Posts: 6,694
|
Post by Hook on Jan 6, 2006 19:18:16 GMT -5
Ah! "U and Ur Hand" is way better. I'm still excited for the cd and for a single to be out, but I hope they don't go with SG.
|
|
Krypton46
2x Platinum Member
Joined: December 2005
Posts: 2,335
|
Post by Krypton46 on Jan 6, 2006 19:58:25 GMT -5
I'm not impressed with what I heard from "Stupid Girl." Hopefully they'll change their minds yet again and go with "You & Your Hand" as the first single.
|
|
JeffB
Charting
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 479
|
Post by JeffB on Jan 6, 2006 21:37:17 GMT -5
Damn after that awful new version of You and Your Hand here is a another awful news about her. What the hell going on? I will believe it when i will heard it on the radio. But if you remember, Cuz I Can was also considered to be the first single, atleast its better. I think if this song flop she will really be dead. >:( :(
|
|
|
Post by Say It Right Only On Sundays on Jan 6, 2006 22:55:58 GMT -5
I heard she changed to Stupid Girl for the first single.
|
|
|
Post by thedoctorluke on Jan 7, 2006 4:14:38 GMT -5
The 1st single is "Stupid Girl" kinda.... it will be released as a video for a month before it goes to radio. But UAUH (YAYH) will also be released before the record comes out. This from the label today.
I hope it works for Pink....
|
|
Nick
8x Platinum Member
Joined: August 2004
Posts: 8,733
|
Post by Nick on Jan 7, 2006 9:20:05 GMT -5
The 1st single is "Stupid Girl" kinda.... it will be released as a video for a month before it goes to radio. But UAUH (YAYH) will also be released before the record comes out. This from the label today. I hope it works for Pink.... From the snippets I heard, I still think "Long Way To Happy" was the best choice for a 1st single. I hope she does well with whatever the 1st single is!
|
|
Robert J
Platinum Member
Joined: November 2004
Posts: 1,701
|
Post by Robert J on Jan 7, 2006 9:34:45 GMT -5
So they're releasing two singles before the album comes out? Or are they trying to do a double A-side type of thing?
|
|
JeffB
Charting
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 479
|
Post by JeffB on Jan 7, 2006 10:37:47 GMT -5
The 1st single is "Stupid Girl" kinda.... it will be released as a video for a month before it goes to radio. But UAUH (YAYH) will also be released before the record comes out. This from the label today. I hope it works for Pink.... This is so weird! The album came out end of march. So SG will be on MTV for about 1 month, and after they will release it on the radio, but U and Your Hand will also be released before the records? So that mean 2 single at the same time? I hope SG will only be on MTV and not radio. I really dont understand their strategy.
|
|
Robert J
Platinum Member
Joined: November 2004
Posts: 1,701
|
Post by Robert J on Jan 7, 2006 10:42:00 GMT -5
It seems like it's the same strategy they did for Kelly Clarkson when she first came out - "A Moment Like This" went to radio and "Before Your Love" went to MTV etc. BYL didn't have the radio promo and bombed and they ended up having to make a video for AMLT. But that was for a new artist who had a very different type of marketing machine behind her. If people got confused by BYL vs AMLT, I can just imagine the confusion UAUH vs SG is likely to cause. I'm thinking this is a very bad call.
|
|
JeffB
Charting
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 479
|
Post by JeffB on Jan 7, 2006 10:52:37 GMT -5
It seems like it's the same strategy they did for Kelly Clarkson when she first came out - "A Moment Like This" went to radio and "Before Your Love" went to MTV etc. BYL didn't have the radio promo and bombed and they ended up having to make a video for AMLT. But that was for a new artist who had a very different type of marketing machine behind her. If people got confused by BYL vs AMLT, I can just imagine the confusion UAUH vs SG is likely to cause. I'm thinking this is a very bad call. UGH i didnt know that for Kelly Clarkson. I dont think there will be a confusion between the 2 song since they are very different, but it will be hard for radio station to decide wich single they will play. But it happen for Don't Lie and My Humps, and of course with Pharell with his 2 single before his album. But i just cant imagine the 2 song get played at the same time on the radio, i hope they will send U and Your hand on the radio this month and Stupid Girls on MTV, and then wait the album to released the video of UAndH and then send SG on the radio. Eh this is so a bad decision. But i remember for the Black Eyed Peas, my radio station played Pump It first and DPWMH at the same time when it have a video. Of course the 2 song did very well, we had the 2 song at the top 6 of the day.
|
|
Hook
6x Platinum Member
You take me higher and higher
Joined: October 2005
Posts: 6,694
|
Post by Hook on Jan 7, 2006 11:28:07 GMT -5
If the record is coming out in March or April, will there even be enough time to have two singles out? It seems like it's just gonna split airplay on radio, with some stations playing one song and others playing the other song.
Maybe if they just release SG as the video to MTV/VH1/etc and UAUH to radio. But it sounds like they're sending SG to radio too.
|
|
|
Post by thedoctorluke on Jan 7, 2006 16:14:49 GMT -5
I don't think they expect SG to do well at radio - but the video is amazing. They think it will bring lots of press etc. Nobody, nobody thinks SG is a better radio song. Strange.
On a side note it tested terribly bad. Was the worst in every test in every region / demographic.
|
|
Krypton46
2x Platinum Member
Joined: December 2005
Posts: 2,335
|
Post by Krypton46 on Jan 7, 2006 16:31:22 GMT -5
If SG is getting negative reactions, then it's a no brainer. Release UAYH. It's that simple.
|
|
JeffB
Charting
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 479
|
Post by JeffB on Jan 7, 2006 16:31:32 GMT -5
This is the dumbest thing i ever heard. What kind of people do you work with? I cant believe Pink have to deal with them.
If they really think the video is awesome, why shouldnt they send it to internet at her official site or wathever MTV.com? At least many people can see their "awesome" video. If they send it to the radio and on TV, it will be a huge flop, and they know it.
If they release SG it will be a huge mistake. They should release You and Your Hand.
Damn it have the worst reception from the test and they want to release it.
>:( ???
|
|
benmcd2000
Platinum Member
Joined: September 2003
Posts: 1,377
|
Post by benmcd2000 on Jan 7, 2006 17:24:13 GMT -5
"Stupid Girl" is the song Alecia wrote with Billy Mann right? I know he wrote a bunch of songs with her for this CD, including Dear Mr President. I've heard both songs and "You and Your Hand" is much better. One question, is Rami also a co-writer on "You and Your Hand?"
|
|
Hook
6x Platinum Member
You take me higher and higher
Joined: October 2005
Posts: 6,694
|
Post by Hook on Jan 7, 2006 17:40:14 GMT -5
If they send it to the radio and on TV, it will be a huge flop, and they know it. I disagree(about the TV part). It supposedly has an amazing video, and even if it's not the radio single, I'm sure the video channels will still play it. Regardless of if it's a weak song. As long as UAUH is the radio single, I don't think sending the SG video to TV will cause any harm. It'll just let people hear two new Pink songs before the CD release, and it makes sense to release the SG video if they think it'll generate buzz.
|
|
MinusName
2x Platinum Member
Joined: June 2005
Posts: 2,980
|
Post by MinusName on Jan 7, 2006 17:44:18 GMT -5
If they send it to the radio and on TV, it will be a huge flop, and they know it. I disagree(about the TV part). It supposedly has an amazing video, and even if it's not the radio single, I'm sure the video channels will still play it. Regardless of if it's a weak song. As long as UAUH is the radio single, I don't think sending the SG video to TV will cause any harm. It'll just let people hear two new Pink songs before the CD release, and it makes sense to release the SG video if they think it'll generate buzz. That's true, I'd be more likely to buy the album if I'd heard at least two songs from it. It's actually not a bad marketing idea, just as long as radio doesn't play SG because of the video.
|
|
JeffB
Charting
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 479
|
Post by JeffB on Jan 7, 2006 17:47:13 GMT -5
If they send it to the radio and on TV, it will be a huge flop, and they know it. I disagree(about the TV part). It supposedly has an amazing video, and even if it's not the radio single, I'm sure the video channels will still play it. Regardless of if it's a weak song. As long as UAUH is the radio single, I don't think sending the SG video to TV will cause any harm. It'll just let people hear two new Pink songs before the CD release, and it makes sense to release the SG video if they think it'll generate buzz. Yeah i think youre right! I hope its gonna be like this. But whats about the video of You and Your hand? Maybe we will see it when the album came out, but the second (or third wathever) will be released later.
|
|
|
Post by thedoctorluke on Jan 8, 2006 15:25:08 GMT -5
They think that if the SG video comes out 3 / 4 weeks before that they will get requests at radio. They think this will make then inclined to add it. BTW, this is Pink's choice too - Jive would prefer (UAUH).... They KNOW that is a Hit... I just hope they don't blow it for Pink - it's not like she has hits on the radio now or her last 3 songs were hits...... How many chances will radio give her?
|
|
JeffB
Charting
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 479
|
Post by JeffB on Jan 8, 2006 15:55:39 GMT -5
I know Pink want to make all of the decision, but since she dont have hit since a long time she need to listen to her label.
|
|
benmcd2000
Platinum Member
Joined: September 2003
Posts: 1,377
|
Post by benmcd2000 on Jan 8, 2006 16:19:48 GMT -5
When an artist starts dictating to the label what songs to release, this usually spells trouble for the project. :(
|
|
|
Post by CriminallySmooth on Jan 8, 2006 22:05:27 GMT -5
Last time P!nk took control of her career things turned out great. So i'll keep my faith in the success of this album.
|
|
|
Post by thedoctorluke on Jan 9, 2006 0:33:36 GMT -5
her last record was a flop and she took all the control.......
|
|
|
Post by CriminallySmooth on Jan 9, 2006 3:13:19 GMT -5
She always said she was rushed on the last album. And she said she didnt have the inspiration that she had during the Missunderstood era. Plus I think the last album was amazing. Success wise it blew, but the material was still amazing even if she didn't have the fire that her previous record did. In her career her key to succeed has always been to be the underdog. Perhaps this is why she choose SG over UAUH. True UAUH is the better song for radio, obviously, but SG has more attitude and its a lot different then anything on the radio. As opposed to UAUH which has the drive of SUBG and BTHE.
|
|
|
Post by thedoctorluke on Jan 9, 2006 5:49:11 GMT -5
I hope you're right!!!
|
|