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Post by britneyrules on Mar 31, 2006 22:42:40 GMT -5
I'm not gonna lie. I'm probably the biggest Paris Hilton hater. Can't stand her. Wish she would die.
But now, I am really keen on her album. I just really wanna hear this now.
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Post by Pulse on Apr 1, 2006 2:48:42 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks Paris could get a #1 single? People love to hate her, but everyone is also curious about her music. I can see this with at least semi decent airplay and being #1 on iTunes and Hot Digital Songs leading to a #1 single on The Hot 100
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Post by britneyrules on Apr 1, 2006 9:32:07 GMT -5
Gawd I hope not.
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Post by babyboylrtm on Apr 1, 2006 11:27:40 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks Paris could get a #1 single? People love to hate her, but everyone is also curious about her music. I can see this with at least semi decent airplay and being #1 on iTunes and Hot Digital Songs leading to a #1 single on The Hot 100 Totally agreee, plus, now it's all about the beat and collabs and I'm sure she'll have some REALLY HOT beats. Do ur thing Paris!!!!
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Post by COW COW COW COW COW COW COW on Apr 1, 2006 11:53:18 GMT -5
Maybe top 20...but not a #1 hit single...then again, with all her money that she could use for payola and bribes. I hope "Screwed" is the first single, or at least a single. If that was the first single (seeing it's going to be a tuned up version) I think it would be a strong digital seller. I don't think she'll get good airplay though, especially with her first single.
BTW, I love to HATE Paris...And my sister and I were listening to Alex G's mix of 'Screwed' and were making fun of how drugged up her synthesized mumbly voice sounded...so overdubbed, lol. Then when the chorus kicks in you can't even hear her well enough to tell which voice is her, granted she is one of the voices...but when she was in the car singing 'Jealousy' even though it was only for a few seconds...it sound like she might have more vocal talent than, say, Hilary Duff or Holly Valance.
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Post by perfecto on Apr 2, 2006 6:14:23 GMT -5
what a joke, no one take this mega media wh*re seriously, she is so shallow i wonder how many tracks she wrote and produced all by myself
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Post by COW COW COW COW COW COW COW on Apr 2, 2006 17:36:38 GMT -5
She probably co-wrote each of the songs with 10 - 12 other people.
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Post by britneyrules on Apr 2, 2006 17:44:35 GMT -5
Ha Ha it'll be the -Lindsay Lohan + 9 co-writers on "Disconnected"- fiasco all over again!
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Post by poplife on Apr 3, 2006 2:21:52 GMT -5
what a joke, no one take this mega media wh*re seriously, she is so shallow i wonder how many tracks she wrote and produced all by myself She's not claiming or saying she's even capable of writing and producing songs all by themselves.. how many friggin people ACTUALLY do that? There are some talented singers out there who do, but no pop artist like Paris Hilton, Hilary Duff, Ashlee Simpson, Lindsay Lohan, etc etc ever put themselves out there as serious artists out to prove they are real musicians and can do it all themselves. Even bands don't always write and produce everything themselves!
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Post by perfecto on Apr 3, 2006 5:06:59 GMT -5
what a joke, no one take this mega media wh*re seriously, she is so shallow i wonder how many tracks she wrote and produced all by myself She's not claiming or saying she's even capable of writing and producing songs all by themselves.. how many friggin people ACTUALLY do that? There are some talented singers out there who do, but no pop artist like Paris Hilton, Hilary Duff, Ashlee Simpson, Lindsay Lohan, etc etc ever put themselves out there as serious artists out to prove they are real musicians and can do it all themselves. Even bands don't always write and produce everything themselves! but how does she expect to be taken seriously, already she is damaged goods she is seen by many as a shallow attention seeking mega media wh*re and making an album where she is just a puppet isn't going to get her credibility or sales, also a real artists write and produce so you know its coming from them their soul, its like the truth you can feel the realness and artists like lindsay, hilary, ashlee and now paris are illusions, fake and all about selling a product they don't having anything to do with real artistry or music, you got to understand the bar has risen these girls need to actually have musically ability to compete with the female pop artists that write and produce, its a clear battle between shallowness VS substance
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Post by Pulse on Apr 3, 2006 5:18:06 GMT -5
What in the world does writing and producing have to do with anything? Madonna, Janet, and Mariah all write and produce and except for Mariah's comeback, look how theyve been doing lately. Even look at Shakira before the rerelease ;)
You may not think those other girls are talented or whatever, but at the end of the day, if people like it, they like it, and it will sell
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Post by perfecto on Apr 3, 2006 5:35:52 GMT -5
everything....its about credibilty about how you are seen by the people, your peers and about respect, it is hard to attack an artist if they write and produce cause even if it flops you still know at least they made the effort to actually be the artist and were real with their lyrics and sound,
people aren't stupid anymore they are starting to understand to see who are real and who are pop puppets, which ones are in the business for the lifestyle and fame and aren't about music like shallow paris and lindsay, hilary and ashlee, wait and see how badly paris does
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Apr 3, 2006 6:45:26 GMT -5
see... sometimes i think music is just about fun. not all music needs to be serious, or written from the depths of your soul. why can't it just be fun??
i too think paris will probably have a #1 single.
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Post by perfecto on Apr 3, 2006 13:26:02 GMT -5
they can make fun music, but i'm talking about artists real music, i just have a problem with any of the above being called 'artists' especially if any of these media who*es call themselves artists cause they aren't in any way, we need a new name to describe singers that don't write and produce....how about 'puppets' or 'products' lets put it this way if any of them get nominated for a best female artist then it will be a big joke
an artist: one who makes their craft emphasis on 'makes'
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Post by Pulse on Apr 3, 2006 15:49:57 GMT -5
Ashlee writes all her music, and I believe Lindsay writes at least some too. So Im not sure where you get off calling them puppets. Celine Dion and Whitney dont write or produce. Are they puppets? If you have to call out puppets, make sure you know what youre talking about ;)
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Post by andthenwekiss on Apr 3, 2006 16:48:33 GMT -5
Paris has been quoted as saying she is only recording the album as a fun side project. I don't get why people can't just take her music for what it is, fun. If she was going to write and produce a masterpiece I'm sure she would have said so. If you don't like her, don't watch her. That simple.
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Post by perfecto on Apr 3, 2006 18:14:11 GMT -5
ashlee co-writes all her songs which basically means someone comes to her with the backing track the production and she fits what she thought up in her pretty vacant little head and tries to make it fit in the track, oh how talented any moron can do that co-write a track,
she probs just wrote a line or too but the other writer fleshes it out comes up with the rest, people are starting to see through her and thats why she isn't selling well, her new album is unmemorable drivel that will not be remembered one year down the road IMO, lets agree to disagree but i'm right ;)
that goes for hilary and lindsay don't get me started on paris again she is the worst by far must she punish the people but being a bigger media wh*re than she is now actually i don't mind if she releases her album and cause she will get humiliated big time, we are sick of stupid girls its time to move on the bar has been raised, i know this it is simple you are right cause i don't watch shallow paris, i know its/she's simple but that exactly the point idon't you see s i have to now starting hearing her....argghhhh on the radio!! i thought it was safe to listen to the radio but now paris is coming oh dear god
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Post by perfecto on Apr 3, 2006 18:24:06 GMT -5
you could argue whitney and celine are puppets but cause they are so successful and have such strong powerful voices its hard to win that arguement but win it i shall, technically speaking if they don't write or produce then they are not 'real artists' that applies to anyone and everyone just cause they are so successful doesn't mean they can get away with it, what they are are great singers no one can argue with that
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Post by Pulse on Apr 3, 2006 18:52:57 GMT -5
ashlee co-writes all her songs which basically means someone comes to her with the backing track the production and she fits what she thought up in her pretty vacant little head and tries to make it fit in the track, oh how talented any moron can do that co-write a track, That's what Mariah and Beyonce do and most artists do nowadays. They get the track and they write on top of that. Theres nothing wrong with that. Or do you think something is wrong with Mariah and Beyonce too? Isnt that what Shakira did on Hips Dont Lie? ;) Most of that song was written before she got ahold of it. she probs just wrote a line or too but the other writer fleshes it out comes up with the rest, people are starting to see through her and thats why she isn't selling well, her new album is unmemorable drivel that will not be remembered one year down the road IMO, lets agree to disagree but i'm right ;) Do you know that for a fact? Maybe Shakira does the same thing. And no, you're not right ;)
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Post by currentoptions on Apr 3, 2006 19:11:07 GMT -5
ashlee co-writes all her songs which basically means someone comes to her with the backing track the production and she fits what she thought up in her pretty vacant little head and tries to make it fit in the track, oh how talented any moron can do that co-write a track, That's what Mariah and Beyonce do and most artists do nowadays. They get the track and they write on top of that. Theres nothing wrong with that. Or do you think something is wrong with Mariah and Beyonce too? Isnt that what Shakira did on Hips Dont Lie? ;) Most of that song was written before she got ahold of it. she probs just wrote a line or too but the other writer fleshes it out comes up with the rest, people are starting to see through her and thats why she isn't selling well, her new album is unmemorable drivel that will not be remembered one year down the road IMO, lets agree to disagree but i'm right ;) Do you know that for a fact? Maybe Shakira does the same thing. And no, you're not right ;) Mariah creates her own tracks as well.
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Post by perfecto on Apr 3, 2006 19:42:54 GMT -5
mariah can produce by herself, she has that capability i remember reading a credit where she is the only producer and writer of the track, i'm not sure if beyonce has produced a whole track by herself i need to check the credits on all of her and DC songs but i think she has done,
what matters is that the talent is there they can and have tried, also it shows that they have greater control over their music if their record company lets them do this which in turn means more credibilty and respect,
hips don't lie is just one song from the album and it is the exception rather than the rule, shakira is known for writing all of her tracks she has a level of control over her music that is quite rare this came about after the 3rd spanish album,
her first two when she was 15 she was a pop puppet and had no say cause her record company made all the decisions, they flopped but she begged them to write and control the 3rd album and they said last chance so wth....
and it was a huge success so was the 4th so sony basically left her to it and over they years as she became global that control became getting stronger and stronger, she produces whole songs too can play 4 instruments and construct songs from those instruments, its clear sony let her do her thing how else would you explain the many uncommercial tracks on FO1 and OF2, they also asked her to record 'la tortura' all in english to help sales in english speaking markets but she said no, its not all about sales, do you think paris has any control like that? that would be a no she would do anything to sell thats what media wh*res are about she ain't no artist
what i'm am talking about the clear pop puppets in the business like paris, lindsay etc, are you trying to say paris is on the same level as beyonce or mariah or shakira, hell no, btw lets agree to disagree and move on
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Post by werss on Apr 3, 2006 19:50:52 GMT -5
Lindsay's better than her, I bet she'll flop hard.
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Post by poplife on Apr 7, 2006 10:43:42 GMT -5
Will Paris Burn?
A bestseller. Nightclubs. TV. Reality porn. Paris Hilton, the ubiquitous heiress-as-brand, conquers genre after genre. Next up on her radar? Song. By Chris Lee, Special to The Times April 9, 2006
She tools around Hollywood in a Batmobile-like $500,000 Mercedes-Benz, squired by various Greek shipping heirs, swarmed by paparazzi. An abstraction of rich, blond fabulosity with a reality TV show and her own signature catchphrase — "That's hot!" — she dances atop nightclub tables and struts down red carpets from London to Las Vegas.
Paris Hilton has turned product placement and endorsement deals into a kind of synergistic performance art to become one of the Information Age's keenly sought-after pitchwomen. And for her unparalleled skill at amassing ever greater wealth and fame — by dint of being rich and ubiquitous — we reserve only our strongest emotions: fascination and scorn, envy and lust.
Her memoir, "Confessions of an Heiress: A Tongue-in-Chic Peek Behind the Pose" (written with Merle Ginsberg and Jeff Vespa), spent five weeks on the New York Times bestseller list in 2004. Hilton's signature scent and Just Me perfumes have racked up nearly $52 million in sales in the last nine months. And in March, plans were announced for a second franchise of her Orlando, Fla., disco, Club Paris (where she is contractually obliged to spend two evenings per month). Even "1 Night in Paris," the DVD of her videotaped sex romp with an ex-boyfriend became must-see X-rated TV (Hilton initially sued to stop its release, but in the end just negotiated a cut of the profits).
Yet this heir to the Hilton hotel fortune never ceases to confound expectations for the simple reason that no one ever expects her to succeed at all. Moreover, she's set to come into a reported $30-million fortune, so why even try?
Low expectations certainly accompany Hilton's long-delayed pop-rock album on Warner Bros. Records — she recorded a batch of songs with Green Day producer Rob Cavallo, threw most of them out and started again from scratch.
As her CD's summer release nears, the drumbeat of pre-publicity has begun in earnest. Next month she will appear on the covers of Out and Blender magazines before embarking on what anyone even passingly familiar with the celebutante's preternatural promotional talents can assume will be an all-out media blitz.
While curiosity about the project has been high, few musical tastemakers have heard the music. As a result, the press has generally sneered at the project since she signed with the label in 2004. "Could a Paris Hilton album be (choking ... on ... words) good?" asked the Chicago Tribune last year.
The bar is set so low, in fact, that Hilton has almost nothing to lose. On the other hand, if the CD is above average, the surprise factor could turn her into a pop savant — Hilton's advantage position time and again.
To hear it from her musical collaborators as well as media observers with no vested interest in her success or failure as a singer, she's got the discerning ear, protean work ethic and even the pitch control to make it as an American Idol in her own right.
A closer reading of their laudatory comments, however, reveals a common refrain, a shocked, cautious appreciation that seems to almost damn the socialite with faint praise.
Superstar DJ Paul Oakenfold, who remixed Hilton's song "Turn It Up," sums up the conventional wisdom about her singing: "I think a lot of people were expecting it to be a lot worse than it is."
In the latest referendum on Hilton's popularity, that may be her most bankable trait. Call Paris Hilton the Queen of Low Expectations.
It's taking a village
Hilton has recorded an album's worth of material — 10 tracks — with Scott Storch, the producer behind hits for 50 Cent, Beyoncé and Dr. Dre. But the lineup keeps changing; she continues to outsource songwriting duties to new writer-producers such as Lukasz "Dr. Luke" Gottwald (who has worked with Pink and Kelly Clarkson) and recent Oscar winners for best original song, Three 6 Mafia.
It's impossible to ignore the perception that the heiress, 25, can pay as much as it takes to surround herself with hitmakers, all but guaranteeing the chart primacy of whatever she records. But according to Kara DioGuardi, who has penned hits for a constellation of Top 40 stars and who co-wrote three songs with Hilton, she seems to have found her musical niche.
"It's fun music, it's danceable, with elements of Blondie, a little reggae and great beats," DioGuardi says. "She has a very sweet voice, very breathy. It sounds exactly like what you would want Paris to be doing."
Which is to say Hilton doesn't totally stink. In an interview with The Times last year, Storch offered similarly qualified kudos: "She's actually got quite a musical ability. Her rhythm is better than a lot of people I've recorded in the past."
Even cynical journalists such as Village Voice gossip columnist Michael Musto, who traveled from New York to Los Angeles to interview Hilton for Out's cover story, begrudgingly admit to being won over by the international socialite and her music. "I've written a lot of negative stuff against her," Musto says. "I came to bury her and I've ended up praising her."
Now listen to the praise: "Her fans are not responding to the concept of her fame for fame's sake," he says. "They're responding to her personality. The blankness. I'm not saying it as a diss. She has the quality of allowing any viewer to project whatever they want on her. That's why she transcends all media."
Oakenfold has remixed songs for many of the biggest acts in the music industry, including Madonna, Jennifer Lopez and U2. But he initially blanched at the idea of remixing one of Hilton's songs when Warner Bros. executives approached him. Oakenfold was ultimately persuaded to take the gig, however, after hearing "Turn It Up"; his remix of the song has become an established part of his set.
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Post by extra extra on Apr 9, 2006 13:26:27 GMT -5
'Turn It Up,' wil be receiving its iTunes released on May 9th. A remix maxi single is also due in stores on May 9th. The track will be going for downloads before it goes for adds. A video will be shot within the next month. The album is still looking for a June release. Paris's cover of, 'Heart Of Glass,' was confirmed to be on the album by British Elle. Paris will be on the cover of British Elle and Blender in the upcoming months.
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Post by currentoptions on Apr 9, 2006 17:18:34 GMT -5
Will Paris Burn? A bestseller. Nightclubs. TV. Reality porn. Paris Hilton, the ubiquitous heiress-as-brand, conquers genre after genre. Next up on her radar? Song. By Chris Lee, Special to The Times April 9, 2006 She tools around Hollywood in a Batmobile-like $500,000 Mercedes-Benz, squired by various Greek shipping heirs, swarmed by paparazzi. An abstraction of rich, blond fabulosity with a reality TV show and her own signature catchphrase — "That's hot!" — she dances atop nightclub tables and struts down red carpets from London to Las Vegas. Paris Hilton has turned product placement and endorsement deals into a kind of synergistic performance art to become one of the Information Age's keenly sought-after pitchwomen. And for her unparalleled skill at amassing ever greater wealth and fame — by dint of being rich and ubiquitous — we reserve only our strongest emotions: fascination and scorn, envy and lust. Her memoir, "Confessions of an Heiress: A Tongue-in-Chic Peek Behind the Pose" (written with Merle Ginsberg and Jeff Vespa), spent five weeks on the New York Times bestseller list in 2004. Hilton's signature scent and Just Me perfumes have racked up nearly $52 million in sales in the last nine months. And in March, plans were announced for a second franchise of her Orlando, Fla., disco, Club Paris (where she is contractually obliged to spend two evenings per month). Even "1 Night in Paris," the DVD of her videotaped sex romp with an ex-boyfriend became must-see X-rated TV (Hilton initially sued to stop its release, but in the end just negotiated a cut of the profits). What ClassHilton has recorded an album's worth of material — 10 tracks — with Scott Storch, the producer behind hits for 50 Cent, Beyoncé and Dr. Dre. But the lineup keeps changing; she continues to outsource songwriting duties to new writer-producers such as Lukasz "Dr. Luke" Gottwald (who has worked with Pink and Kelly Clarkson) and recent Oscar winners for best original song, Three 6 Mafia. Funny considering her penchant for using the N Word
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Post by britneyrules on Apr 9, 2006 19:22:57 GMT -5
Dr. Luke!? Worked with Paris?!?
20 bucks says she gave him a hummer and I am not talking about the car.
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Post by MusicMan88 on Apr 9, 2006 22:47:01 GMT -5
I have to admit, I am really curious to hear the single.
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Post by hereiam on Apr 10, 2006 2:16:30 GMT -5
I have to admit, I am really curious to hear the single. me too,bu I have the feeling this is gonna be a total mess!
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Post by Trebizond on Apr 10, 2006 4:30:23 GMT -5
Yeah I keep hearing her stuff isn't terrible, not an amazing endorsement perhaps but given expectations...
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Post by laguy03 on Apr 11, 2006 11:50:47 GMT -5
"Don't Touch It" leaked. Is that really her singing?
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