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Post by velcro on Jun 4, 2005 17:10:01 GMT -5
sour grapes leave an awfully ugly taste in the mouth, don't they. People really shouldn't get so frantic over Kelly's success. It's good for everyone involved in AI to have a huge success story come from the show. I believe splitchick is very big fan of Kelly's. It just has been hinted here and on the Express that RCA seems to know where Kelly's songs are going before they go there.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jun 4, 2005 17:13:13 GMT -5
i think BTHE has a good chance at going to #1.... got positive info form RCA what positive info? that the payola...sorry, i mean independent promotion is kicking in? no offense luke, i'm just wondering how the label can just know that a song can go to #1 if they're not doing anything to get it there. great song you wrote BTW :) Its pretty common practice that record labels will fight for a song to be #1. Some people call it promotion, some call it payola, depends But I know that "persuasion" does happen and I would be willing to bet good money that Kelly's label wants three #1s in a row.
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Post by THE LEGEND on Jun 4, 2005 17:15:09 GMT -5
sour grapes leave an awfully ugly taste in the mouth, don't they. People really shouldn't get so frantic over Kelly's success. It's good for everyone involved in AI to have a huge success story come from the show. WTH are u talking about?.......This IS a Kelly topic......of course her fans are gonna be glad for her success she deserves it.......If u don't like it stay out of the topic Anyway........... 62 million is good so far......Her downloads are increasing so thats good too........i think this song may make it to #1 now it's just gonna take some time
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Post by britrocks16 on Jun 4, 2005 17:18:58 GMT -5
I think #2 on Pop and #3 on the Hot 100.
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Post by thedoctorluke on Jun 4, 2005 17:32:59 GMT -5
splitchick59
Truth be told, Clive Davis told me in October that SUBG would be HUGE on the radio till the end of April - seems he was right (even though I thought he was crazy). Yeah, RCA does know stuff that most people don't know.
Now they can't say for sure it will hit #1 but they do get the call back info and test results that we don't. I also see personally the Promo Department instructions to their staff on what they should be working on. Having seen it, I can say that they are not worried about it. They are concerned with making sure that the stations that don't have her in power rotation do, and follow stations like z100. They have a plan.
Anyway, I would guess that they have NOT used any independent promotion yet... but news flash everybody... ALL artists get it that are in the top 5 - ALL of them.
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Post by Pink Champagne Ricochet on Jun 4, 2005 17:43:14 GMT -5
Anyway, I would guess that they have NOT used any independent promotion yet... but news flash everybody... ALL artists get it that are in the top 5 - ALL of them. thanks for replying...I do know that heh. I just hope that your being so nice to talk with people on the internet and give them heads-up about this stuff doesn't end up hurting the song(s) in the end. although you said something similar about SUBG i remember, and it certainly didn't hurt that one
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Post by Focus on Jun 4, 2005 18:41:34 GMT -5
Sorry about that. I see a lot of negative stuff about Kelly all over the AI internet whenever great stuff is happening for her (jealousy can be a very ugly thing). I probably jumped to conclusions in this case. I'll delete the offending post. Peace :)
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Post by thedoctorluke on Jun 4, 2005 22:21:33 GMT -5
it's all good - we all like our kelly!!!
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Post by witty7496 on Jun 4, 2005 22:26:33 GMT -5
Luke, I'm glad RCA feels that good about the song! I think it should go #1 because I love it. :) I'm all about basking in the glow of Kelly's successes. She's doing AMAZING!! I just hope she gets an award or two after all is said and done.
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Post by thedoctorluke on Jun 4, 2005 22:48:04 GMT -5
i hope she does too... i think she will - she's got to
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Post by Focus on Jun 4, 2005 22:56:42 GMT -5
Luke..what catagories do you see Kelly being nominated for?
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Post by Samborulz on Jun 4, 2005 23:06:14 GMT -5
I really hope that BTHE makes it to #1. I think its, lyrically, the best song shes ever released. And it deserves to be #1.
Luke, im not sure if this has been asked of you yet, but do you know anything about BTHE being released to HOT AC?
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Post by thedoctorluke on Jun 5, 2005 0:02:00 GMT -5
i think it will be - they have to release it to HOT AC... i'm not 100% but i would bet on it... she should be nominated for best pop song, best female vocal, coolest person, etc... JMO though...
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Post by Samborulz on Jun 5, 2005 1:14:23 GMT -5
Thanks for the response.
I was also wondering if you plan to work with Kelly in the future? You two obviously clicked, I mean, TWO monster hits.
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Post by David on Jun 5, 2005 1:29:00 GMT -5
Thanks for the response. I was also wondering if you plan to work with Kelly in the future? You two obviously clicked, I mean, TWO monster hits. I agree. These two songs are simply amazing. All my friends in college were like, "You know, 'Since U Been Gone' is great, but I like that 'Hazel Eyes' song. They better release it.'" Thanks for all of your contributions, doc!
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Post by sandrose on Jun 5, 2005 2:03:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the response. I was also wondering if you plan to work with Kelly in the future? You two obviously clicked, I mean, TWO monster hits. I agree. These two songs are simply amazing. All my friends in college were like, "You know, 'Since U Been Gone' is great, but I like that 'Hazel Eyes' song. They better release it.'" Thanks for all of your contributions, doc! The problem is Kelly is a victim of her own success with SUBG and Breakaway still dominating the chart in audience impressions - where are they gonna put BTHE? I suspect Hot AC will pick it up on their own when they have room on the chart - its undeniably a perfect fit and hit for that format. It may surpass SUBGs peak but it appears that may not happen for months because SUBG and Breakaway just won't go away. Nice problem to have - Kellys become a chart bully LOL. Who would have predicted that 3 years ago? Not many I think.
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Post by gbaby on Jun 5, 2005 3:25:41 GMT -5
LOL @ 'chart bully'
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Post by yurahalimin on Jun 5, 2005 6:45:38 GMT -5
Kelly's singles are phenomenal... I'm a HUGE mariah fan and now a huge Kelly fan. Planning to get the album + singles I have a feeling this song will get to number 1 BUT not so soon though. I want Mariah to get a good couple of weeks at the number one spot. But Kelly will definitely get to number 1 (well I'm hoping at least). I love her vocals especially that belt (if you can call it that, i don't know) at then end of the bridge... FAN FAN FAN... I Love Kelly
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Post by yurahalimin on Jun 5, 2005 6:47:45 GMT -5
I'm also trying to turn a friend of mine into a Kelly fan. I constantly listen to BTHE..... heh heh... I love the video as well... I don't understand the video though but still love watching it.
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Post by witty7496 on Jun 5, 2005 8:32:40 GMT -5
Bobsmith, i hope mariah gets her couple weeks at #1 too! And then Kelly can move into that position for a while :) Yeah, Kelly's BTHE video is one that you have to pay attention to understand it. That is why I like it - it's not entirely obvious what is going on :) Like a mini-movie!
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Post by KikiMets on Jun 5, 2005 9:18:57 GMT -5
I agree, and what you said is already starting to happen - now that Hot AC is finally letting go of Breakaway, BTHE is being picked up. It was #26 last week and currently has the second-biggest bullet on the chart. A similar thing happened with SUBG - a lot of Hot AC stations put it in rotation even without an add date and the song was nearly top 10 by the time it finally went for adds. bobsmithknows, I'm also a huge fan of Kelly and Mariah and totally loving that both of my girls are having so much success right now. I'm also trying to turn a friend of mine into a Kelly fan. I constantly listen to BTHE..... heh heh... I love the video as well... I don't understand the video though but still love watching it. The middle of the video is a dream sequence in which Kelly realizes that the man she is about to marry has been unfaithful. The dream sequence culminates with Performer Kelly comforting Wedding Kelly, and the video shifts back to the reality we saw in the beginning as Kelly sees the other woman sitting in one of the pews and goes into runaway bride mode.
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Post by Focus on Jun 5, 2005 9:33:08 GMT -5
Kiki..would you happen to have a link to the Hot AC chart that has more than the Top 20?
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Post by KikiMets on Jun 5, 2005 9:38:44 GMT -5
Kiki..would you happen to have a link to the Hot AC chart that has more than the Top 20? www.radioandrecords.com/Formats/Charts/HAC_Chart.aspThose are the numbers from the final update on Sunday. (That's where I get my info for the weekly Radio & Records threads that I post on the Express, but I haven't posted one for this week yet because of all the ezBoard problems).
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Post by sandrose on Jun 5, 2005 9:39:32 GMT -5
I constantly listen to BTHE..... heh heh... I love the video as well... I don't understand the video though but still love watching it. From what I've read at some of Kellys fan sites and my own take on it the video seperates Kellys persona into three elements and shows each of them dealing with the emotional trauma of this seminal event in her young life. Kelly wearing the wedding dress is the Kelly everyone sees and knows - tangible Kelly. The angry Kelly performing in the forest is Kellys strong confident side. The Kelly in the Black dress (and walking down the aisle in the black halter) is Kellys spirit. Kelly concieved the concept and wrote the treatment. Joseph Khan, the director, confirmed this and gave Kelly the creative credit for it in a Canadian TV version of "Making the Video".
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Post by yurahalimin on Jun 5, 2005 9:47:39 GMT -5
Kikimets. Thanks. I got confused. I see how it all fits in now. I thought the woman was the "fiance's" first wife or something then, but then I thoughtt it was wierd she was at his first wedding... Then it switched to her own wedding and everything was similar. I got confused! I love the video. She rocks... I was a fan of hers actually when I heard her perform on that christmas special with ruben and fantasia. She sang SUBG. Wow.. She was a POWERFUL vocalist... Anyways... I hope this song explodes in other formats... I really want to see it go to number one like I wanted SUBG to but didn't but I'm happy BTHE has a chance....
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Post by yurahalimin on Jun 5, 2005 9:51:34 GMT -5
sandrose, :( okay i'm confused again but its too deep for me I'll just go for kikimets version. But do you mean, that the video depicts how she is going through her wedding emotionally? or is this another event in her young life?
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Post by Focus on Jun 5, 2005 10:21:52 GMT -5
Here's another take on what the video is about. I found this one at TWoP. I kind of like this interpretation.
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Post by IMREALLYHOT on Jun 5, 2005 10:52:08 GMT -5
i luv Kelly!!! my second favorite singer...
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Post by Focus on Jun 5, 2005 11:01:21 GMT -5
who's your favorite ;)
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Post by Focus on Jun 5, 2005 11:09:57 GMT -5
Luke...was that you playing acoustic in the Dateline behind the scenes BTHE recording studio segment?
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