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Post by agon666 on Dec 24, 2004 20:04:53 GMT -5
LOL... man, someone took their dramatic pill... I doubt that Lovers & Friends of BOBD will shape the music industry for 5 years if they reach #1.Β Did Nickelback and Pink shape the music industry for 5 years then they were 9000+ and battling for #1?Β Did Lifehouse and Christina & Friends shape the music industry for 5 years when they were both 10000+?Β Please Β The only thing that WOULD happen if both of these songs go as you predict is that by the end of the summer many of us will never want to hear those songs again ever. But it was amusing to read that drama! :) What I mean is that it's hip hop vs alt, and I really think that if BOBD goes #1 (which, if Green Day gets album of the year, it will w/out a doubt), I think that pop music might change their way of thinking and be more open-minded toward Alt music such as "Work" and "Mr. Brightside" (or "Jenny was a friend of mine," if the ever release that.) I didn't mean to build up the drama like that. Sorry.
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Post by j on Dec 24, 2004 22:46:43 GMT -5
All I know is "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" will be #1 for at least 6-8 weeks.
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Post by gbaby on Dec 25, 2004 0:03:40 GMT -5
Christina Aguilera- The Decision :o *Goes psycho* Tell me all that you know - ASAP!!! Please? :)
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Post by allow that on Dec 26, 2004 1:18:02 GMT -5
This is being released? I figured they'd call the album a wrap unless "Sunday Morning" went Top 10.
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Post by singingsparrow on Dec 27, 2004 18:24:29 GMT -5
This is being released? I figured they'd call the album a wrap unless "Sunday Morning" went Top 10. And where did "Bruises" come from for Rob Thomas? I haven't heard any word about Rob Thomas' solo record yet, except for the tentative March release date. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by singingsparrow on Dec 27, 2004 18:26:51 GMT -5
This is being released? I figured they'd call the album a wrap unless "Sunday Morning" went Top 10. They should rest the record at four singles. Hands down, "Sunday Morning" is a flop when you consider it is the follow-up to two consecutive #1 smashes, and usually in that event any follow-up is guaranteed to go Top 25. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Dec 27, 2004 19:11:51 GMT -5
Ha. I wish. Lots of people on here are overly generous. I love both of those ^ songs, but I seriously doubt they will even hit top 30. Well, rkwo's prediction may have been overly generous, but I think you're being a little too pessimistic. I'm almost positive that "Mr. Brightside" will hit the top 30, and more likely than not "Work" will too.
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Post by Slinky on Dec 28, 2004 16:36:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure why we're all counting out Gavin Degraw here. I think Nelly's fall is going to be swift and Mario's going to hit a wall. Gavin could definitely sneak in there for a week, after which his spin losses will push Mario into the top spot. So yeah, then it's Mario for a while, and then I think Green Day will finally claim their rightful place at #1.
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Post by britrocks16 on Aug 1, 2005 1:42:01 GMT -5
No one even mentioned Gwen or Mariah or Kelly!!!! Everyone thought BOBD was going to be #1 for soo long lol....its fun reading these
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Post by thedoctorluke on Aug 1, 2005 2:55:47 GMT -5
Kelly Clarkson - "Since U Been Gone" is #1 for the year end. It's been played on CHR Pop more that BBD, HB, or anything else.
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Post by JamaicaFunkΒ² on Aug 1, 2005 6:27:05 GMT -5
lol, but the year hasn't ended.
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Post by music_lover on Aug 1, 2005 8:42:08 GMT -5
Since U Been gone has about a 30,000 spin lead on the closest song for the year end chart. It is extremely doubtful that anyone will catch her. She pretty much has that spot locked up.
It was fun reading this thread and how a lot of the predictions are so far off.
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Post by mike99 on Aug 1, 2005 9:09:11 GMT -5
by the end of the year, WE BELONG TOGETHER will become no one in spins and audience and billboard and everything, pop, rhythm, urban and all around! since u been gone is already...gone...and mario and 50 cent can not compete with mariah
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Post by joyride on Aug 1, 2005 9:32:09 GMT -5
Kelly Clarkson SUBG for year end no.1??!you've got to be kidding!
a song such as that who has not even reach no.2!(yes) will become no.1 at yearend is plain stupid.
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Post by music_lover on Aug 1, 2005 9:36:55 GMT -5
SUBG will be #1 for year end on the pop chart. someone else will have it for the overall #1 song which would include all formats.
1 KELLY CLARKSON Since U Been Gone 197693 0 12435 18760 28981 37122 40824 33875 25696 2 GREEN DAY Boulevard of Broken Dreams 165299 0 8210 11456 19076 29165 39004 35324 23064 3 CIARA 1,2 Step (f/Missy Elliott) 153524 0 8070 9986 14344 21756 29397 34431 35540 4 MARIO Let Me Love You 133979 0 5063 6512 10175 15944 25418 32506 38361 5 USHER Caught Up 130526 0 6240 9109 18437 30852 34121 21510 10257 6 GWEN STEFANI Hollaback Girl 128570 0 23810 40446 42755 19232 2260 66 1 7 3 DOORS DOWN Let Me Go 125744 0 19326 25481 31927 22520 14395 7202 4893 8 FRANKIE J Obsession (No Es Amor) 120433 0 5041 8607 19407 30352 31779 19711 5536 9 GWEN STEFANI Rich Girl 120156 0 4696 7429 13012 23597 31934 23672 15816 10 KELLY CLARKSON Behind These Hazel Eyes 116725 0 39045 38284 27436 10379 1532 49 0 11 MARIAH CAREY We Belong Together 113163 0 41461 41530 23774 5935 463 0 0
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Post by Hervard on Aug 1, 2005 10:23:57 GMT -5
No one even mentioned Gwen or Mariah or Kelly!!!! rkwo and sinceubeengone7 both mentioned Kelly, on page 1. Question for joyride: What do you mean Since U Been Gone hasn't even reached number two? It was number one for about six weeks. As music_lover pointed out, it has a huge lead over the number two song of the year. Chances of anyone catching up to her by year's end is slim to none, especially since R&R's chart year ends in just four months.
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Post by mst3k on Aug 1, 2005 10:29:17 GMT -5
Kelly Clarkson SUBG for year end no.1??!you've got to be kidding! a song such as that who has not even reach no.2!(yes) will become no.1 at yearend is plain stupid. As ulij20 pointed out, Kelly did hit #1 on the CHR/Pop chart. And even if she hadn't hit #1, it's not unprecedented for #2 peakers to finish the year at #1 in both R&R and Billboard.
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Post by whistle on Aug 1, 2005 11:09:29 GMT -5
Kelly Clarkson SUBG for year end no.1??!you've got to be kidding! a song such as that who has not even reach no.2!(yes) will become no.1 at yearend is plain stupid. It did reach #1, and it's the best song of the year... not stupid.
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Post by Hervard on Aug 1, 2005 16:36:45 GMT -5
Kelly Clarkson SUBG for year end no.1??!you've got to be kidding! a song such as that who has not even reach no.2!(yes) will become no.1 at yearend is plain stupid. As ulij20 pointed out, Kelly did hit #1 on the CHR/Pop chart. And even if she hadn't hit #1, it's not unprecedented for #2 peakers to finish the year at #1 in both R&R and Billboard. Yeah, I'm not sure about Billboard, but "Everything You Want" by Vertical Horizon and "Hanging By A Moment" by Lifehouse both finished the year at number one even though they never made it to the top of the weekly charts. I remember on the old R&R boards, in late 2000, there was a thread where we were all trying to predict which song would come out on top for the year and there was a heated discussion about it, since some people thought the top song would be "Everything You Want" and others were saying, "How can that be number one for the year when it didn't top the weekly charts?" There was another instance where a song finished higher on the year end chart than it did on the regular charts. "Run-Around" by Blues Traveler was the runner-up on 1995's chart (bested by "I Know" by Dionne Farris) and it peaked at number five. Wilson Phillips almost did it in 1990 with "Hold On". The song peaked at number three and if it just had gained eight more points (they figured the chart using inverse points back then), it would have come out on top. Anyway, yeah, chances of any other song passing up "Since U Been Gone" in plays are slim to none.
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Post by britrocks16 on Aug 1, 2005 18:19:39 GMT -5
I think that mike99 and joyride are referring to the Hot 100 and how SUBG will not be #1 on the Hot 100 Year End.
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Post by Tyler46 on Aug 1, 2005 18:23:19 GMT -5
I think that mike99 and joyride are referring to the Hot 100 and how SUBG will not be #1 on the Hot 100 Year End. But this forum is all about R&R not the Hot 100.
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Post by britrocks16 on Aug 1, 2005 19:23:39 GMT -5
I think that mike99 and joyride are referring to the Hot 100 and how SUBG will not be #1 on the Hot 100 Year End. But this forum is all about R&R not the Hot 100. Just look at the people who posted those messages....
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Post by mike99 on Aug 2, 2005 14:12:48 GMT -5
I think that mike99 and joyride are referring to the Hot 100 and how SUBG will not be #1 on the Hot 100 Year End. i am obviously referring to billboard, that is the official chart! who cares about clarkson being no one in mediabase pop chart? the real bet is billboard
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Post by mike99 on Aug 2, 2005 14:16:18 GMT -5
to be honest, i visit this forum because there is no forum for bds, soundscan and billboard! mediabase compensates in some way the bds airplay
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Post by britrocks16 on Aug 2, 2005 16:56:32 GMT -5
Well this forum is for R&R not BDS. So there is no need to post messages that are going to confuse people lol.
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Post by mike99 on Aug 2, 2005 17:08:33 GMT -5
Well this forum is for R&R not BDS. So there is no need to post messages that are going to confuse people lol. do u know any forum about BDS? if so, give me the link, i'll appreciate
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mst3k
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Post by mst3k on Aug 2, 2005 19:35:54 GMT -5
The general Music News forum on this board has weekly threads and other discussions concerning the Hot 100 (an all-format chart, as opposed to the Pop charts discussed in this forum).
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Post by MinusName on Aug 2, 2005 21:32:24 GMT -5
It's funny looking back how some people that "Lovers and Friends" would become this massive hit, same thing for "BOBD" - which it was really big but didn't stick around as long as many thought. Most surprising is how many people underestimated Kelly Clarkson, and the return of Mariah. And a lot of people figured Gwen was done after "WYWF" didn't do as well as expected. Just goes to show how unpredictable the charts can be.
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