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Post by psyche on Feb 18, 2005 21:01:48 GMT -5
Wow theres no need to come here and call us idiots! >:(It's not all fault a bunch of guys in their 30s who call them selfs boys want to come and try to be popular again since they have nothing better to do. and how many people would actually like it if the knew who sang it? so what you need to understand is that no one cares about them anymore, and people with at least half a brain want REAl music. so YOU can go on hating Um....I called you guys idiots?? Not quite sure how you got that. But anyways, you completely proved my point. Hoew many people would like the song if they knew who sang it? So people won't judge the song itself, they'll judge it by who sings it. Are you saying that's the fair way to judge a song? That's what I meant when I said you wouldn't understand. I wasn't implying that you were an idiot. It's the truth. You just wouldn't understand. They could make great music, and people still won't like it if they knew it was the Backstreet Boys. It's all about them, not the music. Trust me. You can argue my point all you want, but it's too late. It's just been proven far too many times.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 18, 2005 21:07:30 GMT -5
Welcome to the club, BSB
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Post by The Rebirth Of ffej on Feb 18, 2005 21:12:22 GMT -5
Um....I called you guys idiots?? Not quite sure how you got that. But anyways, you completely proved my point. Hoew many people would like the song if they knew who sang it? So people won't judge the song itself, they'll judge it by who sings it. Are you saying that's the fair way to judge a song? That's what I meant when I said you wouldn't understand. I wasn't implying that you were an idiot. It's the truth. You just wouldn't understand. They could make great music, and people still won't like it if they knew it was the Backstreet Boys. It's all about them, not the music. Trust me. You can argue my point all you want, but it's too late. It's just been proven far too many times. HAHA Basically the song is horrible, and it wouldn't matter if tehy had usher staus right now, the song is pure crap and its going to flop horribly. no matter whos sings its will be a bad song.
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Post by psyche on Feb 18, 2005 21:16:40 GMT -5
HAHA Basically the song is horrible, and it wouldn't matter if tehy had usher staus right now, the song is pure crap and its going to flop horribly. no matter whos sings its will be a bad song. (Sigh)You just sound like a crazed boy band hater. The song is actually ALREADY doing well. It's been played on radio stations across the U.S. AND overseas and people love it. It's been played for non-fans and even THEY said they like it(Not knowing who it is, which is the point). I've sent it via MSN to friends without saying who it is and THEY like it. Face it, people judge the band, NOT the song. Hence, it's not about the music like it should be.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 18, 2005 21:18:59 GMT -5
(Sigh)You just sound like a crazed boy band hater. The song is actually ALREADY doing well. It's been played on radio stations across the U.S. AND overseas and people love it. It's been played for non-fans and even THEY said they like it(Not knowing who it is, which isnt the point). I've sent it via MSN to friends without saying who it is and THEY like it. Face it, people judge the band, NOT the song. Hence, it's not about the music like it should be. Uh...I think it topped at 30 total spins in America and then collapsed. Thats not doing well at all. And people use that excuse all the time-well I played it for 2-3 of my friends and they loved it, so the song is obviously awesome and whoever doesnt like it hates BSB!!!!! Which is stupid anyways because I know BSB fans (including myself) who hate the song.
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Post by The Rebirth Of ffej on Feb 18, 2005 21:26:21 GMT -5
Uh...I think it topped at 30 total spins in America and then collapsed. Thats not doing well at all. And people use that excuse all the time-well I played it for 2-3 of my friends and they loved it, so the song is obviously awesome and whoever doesnt like it hates BSB!!!!! Which is stupid anyways because I know BSB fans (including myself) who hate the song. Thanks for proving my point LPL ;) Anyways i Do not hate boy bands, I have two bsb cds and two nsync ones so ha lol and LMFAO that were arguing over this
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Post by psyche on Feb 18, 2005 21:27:38 GMT -5
Uh...I think it topped at 30 total spins in America and then collapsed. Thats not doing well at all. And people use that excuse all the time-well I played it for 2-3 of my friends and they loved it, so the song is obviously awesome and whoever doesnt like it hates BSB!!!!! Which is stupid anyways because I know BSB fans (including myself) who hate the song. First off, radio stations had to stop playing it since it isn't the official first single. That's why it collapsed Second, you still don't understand. Of course there are some BSB fans who don't like it. But the bottom line is, more people like it than hate it. It's gotten an overwhelmingly good response. In fact, this thread is the most bad responses I've ever read about the song. If you tell someone who sings the song ahead of time, they will hate it, period. The only way people will know how they really feel about the song is if they don't know who sings it first. Don't believe me? Fine. Like I said, it's already been proven so many times it doesn't really matter if you believe me or not. It doesn't change what's really going on.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 18, 2005 21:30:19 GMT -5
First off, radio stations had to stop playing it since it isn't the official first single. That's why it collapsed Second, you still don't understand. Of course there are some BSB fans who don't like it. But the bottom line is, more people like it than hate it. It's gotten an overwhelmingly good response. In fact, this thread is the most bad responses I've ever read about the song. If you tell someone who sings the song ahead of time, they will hate it, period. The only way people will know how they really feel about the song is if they don't know who sings it first. Don't believe me? Fine. Like I said, it's already been proven so many times it doesn't really matter if you believe me or not. It doesn't change what's really going on. But you said it was already doing well. 30 spins is nothing. Nothing. Thats not doing well. And I have actually heard bad responses to it. I know as an insane fan, you may think everyone adores it, but that doesnt make what you say the truth. Its just a weak song and NOT a lead single. Thank GOD they changed it.
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Post by The Rebirth Of ffej on Feb 18, 2005 21:33:26 GMT -5
Well whats the point of releasing a song if nobdy likes them like you said? And if it was an amazing song like your preaching radio would support it (See "Lovers & Friends" I hate it but hey whatever floats your boat) also it doesnt matter about the resposes you get unless everyone you know is a dj
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Post by AllOverThePlace on Feb 18, 2005 21:34:49 GMT -5
Its just a weak song and NOT a lead single. Thank GOD they changed it. I agree with this.
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Post by psyche on Feb 18, 2005 21:38:13 GMT -5
But you said it was already doing well. 30 spins is nothing. Nothing. Thats not doing well. And I have actually heard bad responses to it. I know as an insane fan, you may think everyone adores it, but that doesnt make what you say the truth. Its just a weak song and NOT a lead single. Thank GOD they changed it. Look, I'm just stated what's really happening. That song wasn't even allowed to be played on radio stations. But they did it anyways. If they played it to many times they would have gotten in trouble. And people have been keeping track of every station that plays it so they can hear the feedback from it, which is far is mostly positive. I don't need to think. I know a lot of people enjoy it. I am not some crazed teeny bopper fan here. But just like the Backstreet Boys, their fans get stereotyped, too. Which is more proof that you don't really know what's going on. You think it's weak? Okay, that's fine. That's your opinion. But again, not the majority. I'm sorry, but it's true.
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Post by The Rebirth Of ffej on Feb 18, 2005 21:41:57 GMT -5
Look, I'm just stated what's really happening. That song wasn't even allowed to be played on radio stations. But they did it anyways. If they played it to many times they would have gotten in trouble. And people have been keeping track of every station that plays it so they can hear the feedback from it, which is far is mostly positive. I don't need to think. I know a lot of people enjoy it. I am not some crazed teeny bopper fan here. But just like the Backstreet Boys, their fans get stereotyped, too. Which is more proof that you don't really know what's going on. You think it's weak? Okay, that's fine. That's your opinion. But again, not the majority. I'm sorry, but it's true. Why did Jive send a cease and disist order? Because radio could play the hell it of it if they wanted to without one. If poeple enjoy it why isn't out with a video and such?
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Post by psyche on Feb 18, 2005 21:43:35 GMT -5
Why did Jive send a cease and disist order? Because radio could play the hell it of it if they wanted to without one. If poeple enjoy it why isn't out with a video and such? First of all, someone DID get a letter. The first DJ to play it in Orlando even had to go through this whole ordeal over it. And second, there's not video because it's NOT THE SINGLE.
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Post by The Rebirth Of ffej on Feb 18, 2005 21:44:53 GMT -5
First of all, someone DID get a letter. And second, there's not video because it's NOT THE SINGLE. Okay, on taht note if people enjoy it so much wh isn't it the single?
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Post by psyche on Feb 18, 2005 21:45:47 GMT -5
Okay, on taht note if people enjoy it so much wh isn't it the single? I'm not a Backstreet Boy. It's not my decision. Therefore, I wouldn't know.
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Post by The Rebirth Of ffej on Feb 18, 2005 21:50:36 GMT -5
I think i don't understandyour point, but i'll try. If people DON'T like them because they are bsb, how are they gonna have any success?
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Post by The Rebirth Of ffej on Feb 18, 2005 21:52:37 GMT -5
Awwwwww...my friend left! :'( who am i gonna argue with now ? :'( :'( :'( i guess i could myself but i'd always win HAHA
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Post by psyche on Feb 18, 2005 21:55:46 GMT -5
I think i don't understandyour point, but i'll try. If people DON'T like them because they are bsb, how are they gonna have any success? Oh my God, you still don't get it! People like you make me want to explode(Which I'm sure you'd be happy about). I can't believe this is so hard for you to understand. How old are you?
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Post by The Rebirth Of ffej on Feb 18, 2005 21:57:09 GMT -5
I don't give personal info. to strangers sorry, but I tried to understand what you said but i guess i didn't get it right
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Post by psyche on Feb 18, 2005 21:58:27 GMT -5
I don't give personal info. to strangers sorry, but I tried to understand what you said but i guess i didn't get it right Wow, then I've been arguing with the wrong person. By the way, I'm nineteen. Doesn't seem that personal to me.
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Post by The Rebirth Of ffej on Feb 18, 2005 22:02:52 GMT -5
Well, i just don't understand what your point is. You said the ymake great music, but nobody likes them because the are bsb. Correct? well, how if nobody likes them how will they have anymore success?
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Post by psyche on Feb 18, 2005 22:04:05 GMT -5
Well, i just don't understand what your point is. You said the ymake great music, but nobody likes them because the are bsb. Correct? well, how if nobody likes them how will they have anymore success? .....All you're doing in emphasising on what you said before. In which I responded "You don't get it." I repeat that here. You sound like the media.
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Post by The Rebirth Of ffej on Feb 18, 2005 22:06:33 GMT -5
Maybe i am the media :o so then why don't you tell me what you mean so i dont sound like an idiot
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Post by psyche on Feb 18, 2005 22:10:48 GMT -5
Maybe i am the media :o so then why don't you tell me what you mean so i dont sound like an idiot Well, I'll try. First of all, not EVERYBODY hates them. They still have a lot of fans. Why on earth would they decide to retire just because there are people who don't like them? Why should they matter? You're basically saying that if someone doesn't like you, give up. Which is stupid, no offense. If their are people who hate the Backstreet Boys, fine. But that doesn't mean they should give up. Didn't your parents ever give you a pep talk like this?
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Post by The Rebirth Of ffej on Feb 18, 2005 22:15:30 GMT -5
Ohhhh okay now i see what your saying. The way you made it sound is that people like the song until they find out who it is. so i said how do the yexpect to get a hit if no one likes them. I'm sure theyll probably go platnum and such, but i don't think they'll be able to be as popular as they were before.
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Post by psyche on Feb 18, 2005 22:16:48 GMT -5
Ohhhh okay now i see what your saying. The way you made it sound is that people like the song until they find out who it is. so i said how do the yexpect to get a hit if no one likes them. I'm sure theyll probably go platnum and such, but i don't think they'll be able to be as popular as they were before. Oh I doubt they'll be able to be. When they were popular, boy bands were like huge. But now that the scene has changed, all they have to do is try to fit in and survive. There fans are still here.
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Post by lalalajustme on Feb 18, 2005 23:15:30 GMT -5
Okay here is the deal. I am a fan of Backstreet Boys who just so happened to come across this post and here is what I have to say. Though many may view this song as "weak" or not single material, it has nevertheless received an overwhelmingly positive response from both fans and nonfans alike. And if you really do not like the song then why argue your position in the first place? I mean, so you do not like it, so what? That is your opinion, not ours. I do not even know why you bother to argue period, I like it, you dont it is as simple as that. I think it is a wee bit immature to sit there and defend why you dislike a song, but then again that is just me. So well I guess that is all I have to say now. Signed Lady peace maker! LOL!!
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Post by allow that on Feb 18, 2005 23:19:37 GMT -5
And if you really do not like the song then why argue your position in the first place? I mean, so you do not like it, so what? That is your opinion, not ours. I do not even know why you bother to argue period, I like it, you dont it is as simple as that. I think it is a wee bit immature to sit there and defend why you dislike a song, but then again that is just me. So well I guess that is all I have to say now. Signed Lady peace maker! LOL!! Uh, not a good idea to come to a board and call long-term members here immature just because they don't like your favorite artist, especially when the whole point of these boards is to discuss DIFFERING opinions on songs.
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Post by hollywoodstar on Feb 18, 2005 23:35:54 GMT -5
Wow, it's people (well fans) like this that make me want to crawl under a rock and never admit I enjoy the backstreet boys. But that's besides the point...
I do see how people can say this is not a good song for a first single. I can agree with that on some levels, and disagree on others I guess. I am really conflicted. I guess it really depends on how the backstreet boys want to be percieved with this new album, and new image.
I think this song, lyrically is very diffrent from the songs and ballads they have had in the past. It isn't as bubble gummy, "oh god i love you, lets get married I dont care who you are" type. I think it does show a good amount of growth vocally from their last album. This song is a bit more deeper, and I think a song that alot more people, of a wider age range and music taste can relate too/appriate. (sorry for the bad spelling, I'm so tired) It also has the ablity to be a bit diffrent from the things they have done in the past with still staying true to that backstreet boy root. You hear it, and you can tell its them. It's not a total 180.
Now of course I am bias to this song because as I have stated I am a backstreet boy fan. And I really do honestly enjoy this song. But I can see how it can be percieved as weak. It does sound a bit as if they are "trying" too hard to me. Trying to go down this pop/rockish almost route with this song. It reminds me alot of avril lavignes last to songs "My happy ending" and "Nobodys home" it has that same kind of vibe to it.
I think if they choose this as a single it has a 50/50 chance of making it as a big single. It has potential there, but at the same time you listen to it and cant help but wonder if they are trying a little to hard to be what is "cool" in todays pop music culture. Teenage angst is the newest rage, and it sounds a bit angsty to me. But it is catchy and I think vocally very strong.
Now as for my "fellow backstreet boys" fans that are trying to make their point..Please just stop. Accept the fact that not everybody is going to enjoy this song, or them as a band. You are taking the risk when you make a thread about them, or any band for that matter of getting somebodys opinion that doesn't agree with you. And thats okay, thats the point of forums, to get a bunch of diffrent people with similar and not so similar opinions and discuss it. If you can't handle that, go back to a backstreet boys forum. Alot of you ARE embarassing the fans out there that are mature, and can accept and even agree with people that don't enjoy songs or them.
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Post by psyche on Feb 19, 2005 0:29:02 GMT -5
Now as for my "fellow backstreet boys" fans that are trying to make their point..Please just stop. Accept the fact that not everybody is going to enjoy this song, or them as a band. You are taking the risk when you make a thread about them, or any band for that matter of getting somebodys opinion that doesn't agree with you. And thats okay, thats the point of forums, to get a bunch of diffrent people with similar and not so similar opinions and discuss it. If you can't handle that, go back to a backstreet boys forum. Alot of you ARE embarassing the fans out there that are mature, and can accept and even agree with people that don't enjoy songs or them. You haven't seen anything. You think I was being embarrassing? My opinions were no uglier than the ones already going on in this thread. There's nothing wrong with a clean argument. I never said it was bad if people didn't like the song. I don't feel bad or ashamed of the argument because it resolved peaceful. Like all mature arguments eventually do. If anything, I'd call it more of a "debate." There's nothing embarrassing about being a part of a debate. I'm sorry if YOU feel embarrassed, but I don't. I don't see why I should.
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