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Post by pen on Mar 28, 2008 21:10:39 GMT -5
May 6th is the add date for the first single from the band's new album, which still doesn't have a title or release date. I really hope the time they took on this was worth it, as I thought Splinter was really half-assed. They need to lose their pop angle and just focus on making straight-up punk, it's what they've always been good at. I don't think there's one pop song of theirs that I've actually liked beyond one listen.
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Post by American Idiot on Mar 29, 2008 0:02:54 GMT -5
I've only been waiting five years for this I 100% agree. I hope to all god that they went back to the days of their first three albums and made a straight up freaking awesome punk album. I could care less about how well they do as long as the record kicks major ass.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Mar 29, 2008 3:22:02 GMT -5
I really hope the time they took on this was worth it, as I thought gathered that Splinter was really half-assed. They need to lose their pop angle and just focus on making straight-up punk, it's what they've always been good at. Agreed 100%. Regarding their pop stuff, the lead singles off their past three albums have just been asinine, poorly written, and not the least bit humorous. Dexter has a Ph.D, for crying out loud (granted, not in English). Why, then, are his novelty song lyrics so cringe-inducingly lame?
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Mar 29, 2008 4:48:21 GMT -5
Im looking forward to this and definitely agree that I'd like to hear something reminiscent to Ignition, Smash or Ixnay. I really liked Can't Repeat and from the Greatest Hits and it made me long for a good if not GREAT new Offspring album. Fingers crossed hard for this album.
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Post by pen on Mar 29, 2008 5:11:56 GMT -5
I really hope the time they took on this was worth it, as I thought gathered that Splinter was really half-assed. They need to lose their pop angle and just focus on making straight-up punk, it's what they've always been good at. Agreed 100%. Regarding their pop stuff, the lead singles off their past three albums have just been asinine, poorly written, and not the least bit humorous. Dexter has a Ph.D, for crying out loud (granted, not in English). Why, then, are his novelty song lyrics so cringe-inducingly lame? You replaced thought with gathered so I'll assume that means you never actually heard the album in question. What I hated most about Splinter is that only four of the twelve songs on the album were really pop songs, but they were the four worst tracks on the album, and made an already supershort album even shorter. And this was three years after Conspiracy Of One. Actually, if the four pop songs were replaced with four more actual punk songs, it would have been a really great album, although it would've still been way too short.
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Post by Pipa on Mar 29, 2008 10:54:57 GMT -5
Not to mention it had about four filler songs. It was very disappointing.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Mar 30, 2008 14:20:23 GMT -5
Not to mention it had about four filler songs. It was very disappointing. You mean... different from the four pop songs penance was talking about? If that's the case, that means there were only four "decent" or "good" songs on the album. Yikes.
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Post by Pipa on Mar 30, 2008 17:44:35 GMT -5
My filler songs were "Neocon", "When You're In Prison", "Da Hui", and "Worst Hangover Ever". "Da Hui" is a good song, but it sure sounds like filler the first time through. Maybe I'm being a little hard on "Worst Hangover Ever", but to me it just sounds like a bad rehash of their older hits. I imagine it's one of penance's pop songs.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Mar 30, 2008 17:57:46 GMT -5
My filler songs were "Neocon", "When You're In Prison", "Da Hui", and "Worst Hangover Ever". "Da Hui" is a good song, but it sure sounds like filler the first time through. Maybe I'm being a little hard on "Worst Hangover Ever", but to me it just sounds like a bad rehash of their older hits. I imagine it's one of penance's pop songs. I liked Worst Hangover Ever, until I realized I was only liking it because there wasnt much else to grab onto.... Then I just went for an intermission.......I felt much better afterwards.
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Post by pen on Mar 31, 2008 1:04:36 GMT -5
My filler songs were "Neocon", "When You're In Prison", "Da Hui", and "Worst Hangover Ever". "Da Hui" is a good song, but it sure sounds like filler the first time through. Maybe I'm being a little hard on "Worst Hangover Ever", but to me it just sounds like a bad rehash of their older hits. I imagine it's one of penance's pop songs. I figured those were the filler songs you were talking about. The pop songs for me are "Hit That", "Spare Me The Details", "Worst Hangover Ever", and "When You're In Prison", although I'd be hard pressed to even call the latter a song. I think the rest are great though, and that includes "Neocon" and "Da Hui", which are exactly the kind of filler Offspring should be making if they need to make filler at all. I just wish they'd pump out more tracks like "Lightning Rod" or "Long Way Home".
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Post by Rich P. on Mar 31, 2008 10:04:30 GMT -5
Worst Hangover Ever is one of my favorite Offspring songs ever; I think lots of folks would have liked this one if they ever heard it.
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Mar 31, 2008 10:15:55 GMT -5
The novelty songs are hit or miss for me. I love "Worst Hangover Ever" and "Why Don't You Get A Job?", but the rest I could kinda do without. In any event, I think they've done enough of those and it's time to go back to making more serious material.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Apr 1, 2008 0:20:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I enjoyed "Why Don't You Get a Job?" actually.
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Post by Pipa on Apr 1, 2008 8:22:15 GMT -5
Hey, that's something everyone can enjoy.
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Post by American Idiot on Apr 1, 2008 12:07:05 GMT -5
Hey, that's something everyone can enjoy. That just says you're an old school fan right there
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Apr 2, 2008 0:57:43 GMT -5
Hey, that's something everyone can enjoy. That just says you're an old school fan right there Hm, no. Saying you were a fan of say, "Beheaded" or "Kick Him When He's Down" would make you an old school fan.
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Post by Pipa on Apr 2, 2008 8:26:00 GMT -5
I'm anything but an old-school Offspring fan. I didn't even know they existed before Americana until last year.
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Post by American Idiot on Apr 2, 2008 19:08:05 GMT -5
That just says you're an old school fan right there Hm, no. Saying you were a fan of say, "Beheaded" or "Kick Him When He's Down" would make you an old school fan. Yeah, I guess that would be more accurate. They actually play "Kick Him When He's Down" every so often on WPBZ here. That's exactly the kind of sound I'm hoping to hear from this new album since it's just so freaking awesome.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Apr 3, 2008 1:05:47 GMT -5
I didn't even know they existed before Americana until last year. What?...the hell? :o
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Post by Pipa on Apr 3, 2008 8:44:58 GMT -5
I didn't even know they existed before Americana until last year. What?...the hell? :o Heh; my station just refuses to play anything before "Pretty Fly For a White Guy". Sad, I know... Wait, is this 2008? Make that two years then.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Apr 3, 2008 14:56:16 GMT -5
It makes me sad that I knew who they were before you were born......quit wasting your youth on music boards, go play outside, lol.
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Post by orangina on Apr 3, 2008 16:57:58 GMT -5
"I'm not a trendy asshole, Do what I want, Do what I feel like."
My favorite line from my favorite Offspring song.
I hope this album is gonna be huge again. Can't wait for a new single
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Apr 3, 2008 18:37:41 GMT -5
Heh; my station just refuses to play anything before "Pretty Fly For a White Guy". Sad, I know... I don't know if I'd say it's sad, but it's certainly unusual. I remember the previous incarnation of K-Rock in NYC completely barraging their listeners with "Self Esteem" and "Come Out and Play", and those are consistently among the most-played songs on the Mediabase Gold chart. I wouldn't mind taking an extended break from hearing those songs.
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Post by American Idiot on Apr 3, 2008 19:56:55 GMT -5
Heh; my station just refuses to play anything before "Pretty Fly For a White Guy". Sad, I know... I don't know if I'd say it's sad, but it's certainly unusual. I remember the previous incarnation of K-Rock in NYC completely barraging their listeners with "Self Esteem" and "Come Out and Play", and those are consistently among the most-played songs on the Mediabase Gold chart. I wouldn't mind taking an extended break from hearing those songs. Yeah, me either. I hear those all the freaking time and at this point I don't even think about which one of the two is playing, I just think "Ugh. Old Offspring that the radio killed." But, I mean there's many many gold songs that my mind thinks that about and if I went a few years without hearing them, I really wouldn't mind.
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Post by Pipa on Apr 3, 2008 20:02:50 GMT -5
Last week "Self Esteem" was #5 on Canada-Rock's gold charts. Apparently that's not high enough.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on May 4, 2008 1:50:15 GMT -5
Not bad. Not bad at all. And it's not some stupid novelty. Pretty long Offspring song, though, at 4½ minutes. The ending's a little weird and tips its cap to Elvis Costello several times, repeating "My aim is true."
Still, I don't see any reason why this won't smash right into the Top 5.
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Post by Pipa on May 4, 2008 8:10:12 GMT -5
My god, first Coldplay, then Matt Mays and El Torpedo, then The Vines, then Shinedown, then another NIN song, now this? Man, they're just asking to make my chart impossible.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on May 4, 2008 13:05:09 GMT -5
I got to hear this all the way for the first time on a radio rip and it sounds really good, actually sounds to me like a bridge between Smash and Ixnay, good return to older form IMO.
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Post by American Idiot on May 4, 2008 13:32:22 GMT -5
I'm so jealous that you all have heard this since WPBZ or WHDR hasn't started playing it yet, but that's great to know that you're all giving it good reviews. I'll be sure to make it my business to listen to any online stream that I can find tomorrow while at work and hopefully hear it.
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Post by American Idiot on May 5, 2008 20:44:07 GMT -5
Alrighty, so I just listened to this on their MySpace, and wow! This is EXACTLY what I wanted to hear out of a first single, and I think the song is absolutely awesome. They definitely went back to their old roots and put out an opening single of basically what their long-time fans wanted to hear. I don't expect to do dramatically well, but as I said earlier, I don't really care. I'm just so freaking psyched for more new material from them for the first time in many years :)
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