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Post by SAY IT RIGHT on May 27, 2008 11:07:46 GMT -5
I’m sorry but nobody can defend Nicole and all the efforts made to make her a star and public just doesn’t care about her. They care about the image that PCD gives off and she is LUCKY she has the opportunity to do what she does because they could replace Nicole with any chick from Girlicious and nobody would blink twice.
If Nicole was all this and all that she would have been a successful solo artist and that’s the bottom line. All this bulls**t about her marketing is for the birds because the same people marketing PCD are the same people that were marketing her as a solo artist and she was given EVERY attempt to be successful. She was given prime time performance spots, the VMAs, So u think u can dance, American Music Awards and she flopped, flopped some more, flopped again and was sent back into PCD because people only care about the PCD image and she cant give off that image ALONE.
Its sad to think how hard Ron Fair has been pushing this girl as a solo artist. She has done collabos with damn near EVERYBODY on the labels roster before the first PCD album and after. Will Smith, Diddy, 50 Cent, Shaggy, Avant, and so on to get buzz for her as a solo artist and she still did NOTHING. So if this girl is the reason PCD is successful, if this girl is such a super star, if this girl is all this and all that, why is it that despite the label and the PRESIDENT of the labels BEST efforts to make it happen, she has yet to make a dent as a solo artist? I have NEVER seen a record label work so hard to make somebody a success and they still fail. Look at Fergie. How many #1 singles? How many millions sold? They are on the same label, same team behind them, both come from a group and Fergie wasn’t even the lead of the group, she basically sung the hooks and she came out and killed it! Case closed. No1 gives a damn about Nicole Flopsinger and she is just another random girl in PCD that can be replaced.
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Post by Good-Boy-Gone-Bad on May 27, 2008 11:19:14 GMT -5
Nicole didn't get the good promotion with her lead single which was the better single. She got two performances on So You Think You Can Dance and the VMA Preshow no-one really watches the preshow. In Europe with promotion Baby Love got to #14 on the English music charts and #13 on European Hot 100 Singles. So obviously people do care about her music. The problem was Baby Love was a weak single. After Whatever U Like didn't do well they shoulda gone with another uptempo song.
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Post by tothefloor on May 27, 2008 11:19:58 GMT -5
Well, Nicole was marketed (if that's what you wanna call it) as a solo artist a lot differently than the "brand" you say America only cares about. The "Whatever You Like" video was dark + weird, and the song wasn't the greatest lead single to send to radio. The online response, most places, was negative (overproduction, annoying, jacking the beat from Chilli..). It gave off this "Ring The Alarm" vibe that radio rejected, from Beyonce and Kelis, the summer before. Not to mention, it was entirely way too Urban, and from the start, she abandoned her Pop audience. Where was the sassy sex siren from the PCD era? The closest she got to it was strange-eerily sexy shots of her in "Whatever You Like" -- which was DOA.
I think the marketing + timing situation of Nicole and her singles were poor, and that was the cause for her project failing. Had they correctly followed up with something just as fierce and sexy as Diddy's "Come To Me" (Nicole owned that track), to keep the momentum going, there's no doubt in my mind she would've had a greater outcome.
I guess we see the situation differently. You think she's a "non talented tranny", and I see a beautiful-gifted singer with lots of potential. No one in Girlicious or Danity Kane can belt out a G5. The next time she tries going solo will probably be a lot different, but we'll see.
We agree to disagree.
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Post by ₫anny Jerz ♔ on May 27, 2008 11:25:51 GMT -5
Nicole failed because she tried to do the solo thing too soon. Fergie lucked out because she got some fantastic material and, most importantly, songs with smash hit potential. I have yet to hear a solo Nicole song that is on par with Fergie's singles. Everything has to be perfect for a member of a famous group to be able to make it own their own; the timing has to be right, the material has to be even stronger than usual because expectations are higher, the image has to be right, the marketing has to be good, and there has to be hype. Nicole had a few of those factors but she was lacking with some of the most important factors like timing and material. I hope she gets another shot. I've been following her since her Eden's Crush days and I've always seen star potential in her. Hopefully things will eventually work out for her, but for right now she is the lead singer and star of a mega-successful group which is nothing to be ashamed of.
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Post by tothefloor on May 27, 2008 11:28:06 GMT -5
Nicole failed because she tried to do the solo thing too soon. Fergie lucked out because she got some fantastic material and, most importantly, songs with smash hit potential. I have yet to hear a solo Nicole song that is on par with Fergie's singles. Everything has to be perfect for a member of a famous group to be able to make it own their own; the timing has to be right, the material has to be even stronger than usual because expectations are higher, the image has to be right, the marketing has to be good, and there has to be hype. Nicole had a few of those factors but she was lacking with some of the most important factors like timing and material. I hope she gets another shot. I've been following her since her Eden's Crush days and I've always seen star potential in her. Hopefully things will eventually work out for her, but for right now she is the lead singer and star of a mega-successful group which is nothing to be ashamed of. Exactly! Imagine if Beyonce kept releasing material like "Work It Out".
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Post by Good-Boy-Gone-Bad on May 27, 2008 11:30:22 GMT -5
Nicole failed because she tried to do the solo thing too soon. Fergie lucked out because she got some fantastic material and, most importantly, songs with smash hit potential. I have yet to hear a solo Nicole song that is on par with Fergie's singles. Everything has to be perfect for a member of a famous group to be able to make it own their own; the timing has to be right, the material has to be even stronger than usual because expectations are higher, the image has to be right, the marketing has to be good, and there has to be hype. Nicole had a few of those factors but she was lacking with some of the most important factors like timing and material. I hope she gets another shot. I've been following her since her Eden's Crush days and I've always seen star potential in her. Hopefully things will eventually work out for her, but for right now she is the lead singer and star of a mega-successful group which is nothing to be ashamed of. I 100% agree with you.
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Post by Sir Benji on May 27, 2008 11:32:16 GMT -5
Nicole failed because she tried to do the solo thing too soon. Fergie lucked out because she got some fantastic material and, most importantly, songs with smash hit potential. I have yet to hear a solo Nicole song that is on par with Fergie's singles. Everything has to be perfect for a member of a famous group to be able to make it own their own; the timing has to be right, the material has to be even stronger than usual because expectations are higher, the image has to be right, the marketing has to be good, and there has to be hype. Nicole had a few of those factors but she was lacking with some of the most important factors like timing and material. I hope she gets another shot. I've been following her since her Eden's Crush days and I've always seen star potential in her. Hopefully things will eventually work out for her, but for right now she is the lead singer and star of a mega-successful group which is nothing to be ashamed of. Exactly! Imagine if Beyonce kept releasing material like "Work It Out". she'd probaly still be more successfull than Nicole
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Post by SAY IT RIGHT on May 27, 2008 13:51:27 GMT -5
LMAO. I have never seen so many excuses for a flop tranny in my life. This girl was given every opportunity to have a successful solo career and she could not cut it. They tried every trick under the sun and no1 gave 2 fucks about her. LMAO amazing!
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Post by Good-Boy-Gone-Bad on May 27, 2008 13:56:52 GMT -5
LMAO. I have never seen so many excuses for a flop tranny in my life. This girl was given every opportunity to have a successful solo career and she could not cut it. They tried every trick under the sun and no1 gave 2 f**ks about her. LMAO amazing! Its just because some people actually like her. You hate her so of course your gonna want her to flop and do badly. Even if she was doing amazing by herself, you'd find some excuse to hate her. Your what some people like to call a very sad person. Now can we get back on topic!
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Post by Gray. on May 27, 2008 14:48:17 GMT -5
Nicole is awful. She needs to move over and give up being the lead singer. There are better singers in the group.
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Post by Good-Boy-Gone-Bad on May 27, 2008 14:51:46 GMT -5
Nicole is awful. She needs to move over and give up being the lead singer. There are better singers in the group. Theres only Melody and I think she acts to cute and bubbly to be lead in the group. Jessica is not a better singer than Nicole. And neither are Ashley and Kim.
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Post by rydeordie on May 27, 2008 15:13:14 GMT -5
first listen of the new song I hated it. Thought it was trash. But after the JK performance, I actually like it now and hope it does well
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Post by RihannaFAN²=ColdUmbrella! on May 27, 2008 16:18:23 GMT -5
Melody is the Star.
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Post by Good-Boy-Gone-Bad on May 27, 2008 16:22:18 GMT -5
The PUSSYCAT DOLLS have enlisted the help of British singer/songwriter TAIO CRUZ to spice up their new album. The girl group's lead singer Nicole Scherzinger has put her solo career on hold to concentrate on the band's second LP and they have called in Cruz to write them some songs. Cruz, whose breakthrough single Come On Girl entered the U.K. music charts' top five in March (08), will be teaming up with the band at a recording studio in Los Angeles and admits he is determined to give their music a complete make-over. He says, "I'm really excited about meeting the Pussycat Dolls. I've quite a few ideas bubbling away and I want to do something that will be a complete contrast to their usual style. "Nicole has put her solo career on hold to concentrate on PCD so it's a really important album. Since Come On Girl, I've been receiving lots more calls about writing for people."
Uh, Dude gets 1 kinda hit song and people are asking him to write for them. I listened to his album, I was bored outta my head by track 5. I really hope his songs don't make the album.
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Post by SAY IT RIGHT on May 27, 2008 17:12:22 GMT -5
LMAO. I have never seen so many excuses for a flop tranny in my life. This girl was given every opportunity to have a successful solo career and she could not cut it. They tried every trick under the sun and no1 gave 2 f**ks about her. LMAO amazing! Its just because some people actually like her. You hate her so of course your gonna want her to flop and do badly. Even if she was doing amazing by herself, you'd find some excuse to hate her. Your what some people like to call a very sad person. Now can we get back on topic! Girl sit in a corner and spin. I dont have to want her to flop badly, she does it naturally because once again, no1 gives a damn about her. Whats sad is all the money spent on her fop project that never saw the light of day. Whats even sadder is u think i give 2 fucks about Flopsinger or that it effects my life in anyway. This is entertainment and everybody on this board is here to express an opinion Get a life. Nicole is not your sister, mother or best friend so stop acting like u get a cookie for defending her and her flop status.
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Post by SAY IT RIGHT on May 27, 2008 17:12:44 GMT -5
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Post by Gray. on May 27, 2008 18:14:53 GMT -5
Nicole is awful. She needs to move over and give up being the lead singer. There are better singers in the group. Theres only Melody and I think she acts to cute and bubbly to be lead in the group. Jessica is not a better singer than Nicole. And neither are Ashley and Kim. I loved "White Lies." I'd like to hear Jessica do something not too techno before we judge her singing capacity. And Ashley did a good job on "Santa Baby" so I'd like to hear more from her. Nicole needs to at least learn to share the spotlight this time around. Has Kim ever sung?
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on May 27, 2008 19:18:00 GMT -5
Theres only Melody and I think she acts to cute and bubbly to be lead in the group. Jessica is not a better singer than Nicole. And neither are Ashley and Kim. I loved "White Lies." I'd like to hear Jessica do something not too techno before we judge her singing capacity. And Ashley did a good job on "Santa Baby" so I'd like to hear more from her. Nicole needs to at least learn to share the spotlight this time around. Has Kim ever sung? Nope. Not that I know of. I've heard all original six dolls sing except for her, but I really don't care cause she can dance her ass off.
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Post by SAY IT RIGHT on May 27, 2008 21:23:15 GMT -5
Is Kim the one with the short hair who did that awesome leg lift?
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Post by RihannaFAN²=ColdUmbrella! on May 27, 2008 22:16:24 GMT -5
Is Kim the one with the short hair who did that awesome leg lift? yup.
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Post by SAY IT RIGHT on May 28, 2008 7:58:39 GMT -5
Goodness she was serving it in the Jimmy Kimmel performance!
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Post by jen on May 28, 2008 8:08:07 GMT -5
I want Jessica to sing more on this album. She's my second favorite after Nicole. Btw, is Karmit the one on the far left or the one left to Nicole in the pic below?
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Post by SAY IT RIGHT on May 28, 2008 8:13:27 GMT -5
Carmit was the red head at the end. Jessica is beside Nicole.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on May 28, 2008 9:22:47 GMT -5
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Post by **βécky**™ on May 30, 2008 19:38:35 GMT -5
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Post by Good-Boy-Gone-Bad on May 31, 2008 16:06:38 GMT -5
Physical might make it on the album then. Can't wait for the MTV performance.
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Post by Gray. on Jun 2, 2008 20:01:16 GMT -5
Does anyone else think Nicole sucked at the MTV Movie Awards?
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Post by rydeordie on Jun 2, 2008 20:03:36 GMT -5
Does anyone else think Nicole sucked at the MTV Movie Awards? Maybe Ron Fair backstage, but I thought she was pretty good during the performance
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Post by Alex on Jun 2, 2008 20:05:31 GMT -5
Does anyone else think Nicole sucked at the MTV Movie Awards? Maybe Ron Fair backstage, but I thought she was pretty good during the performance LOL! Ya'll are off the chain. Nicole definitely did some things to GET TO THE TOP!
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Post by SHOOTER on Jun 2, 2008 22:23:06 GMT -5
They killed at the awards!
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