MinusName
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Post by MinusName on Oct 11, 2005 21:08:12 GMT -5
I don't think I've hated a song as much as I've hated "Gold Digger" since Eminem's "Just Lose It!" But, I do agree, some people may feel the same way about "BOY" (even though I don't understand how anyone could hate "BOY") Just because "GD" hits #1 doesn't mean America has bad taste in music, we've probably had worse #1's. Kayne is considered "hip" so naturally people (especially teenagers) are giving into peer pressure and going along with the crowd and enjoying the so-called "hip" song, that's the way it's been for years. For some reason, people are ashamed to say they like ballads and soft rock, but it's cool to say you like rap and hip-hop because for some odd reason it is in style. But whatever, off the soap box, just my opinion on the matter. Kelly truly deserves #1, just because an artist has already had other #1's doesn't mean they shouldn't get another one. It's not anyone's fault that Kayne hasn't had a #1 at Pop yet, it's not fair that he should get #1 just because he hasn't had one yet, what about Lifehouse? They've never had a #1 (at least not on a weekly chart) and I'd say they far more deserve a #1 than Kayne. Determining who deserves #1 by looking at their past radio achievements is ridiculous, who cares if Kayne hasn't had a #1 hit, that doesn't mean he deserves it anymore than Kelly. I better stop before this post becomes too long and I go crazy and go "accidently" crack every Kayne CD case at the store. I'm Finished!
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sleepy time
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Post by sleepy time on Oct 11, 2005 21:49:15 GMT -5
With regard to "deserving" or "not deserving" a #1, I think if you get a #1, for whatever reason, you "deserved" it, and if you didn't, you "don't deserve it". At the end of the day, it's just a chart position, and sure, it's nice to have the accolades under your belt, but at this point, with the tremendous success of Breakaway, no one can doubt or try to take away from her tremendous success.
"Gold Digger" is a good song. I have no idea why so many people are downloading it or why it's so popular, especially because (to me) there are better, more radio friendly tracks on the album, but clearly it sparked something and caught on. You can't really minimize that, or take that away from him, just because you like another song better. I'll take Kelly's song over Kanye's any day, however the charts are based on calculations, and if she can't back up the quality of the song with the numbers, then she's not deserving of it, for whatever reason that might be.
That being said, I hope she squeaks out a number one with BOY. I think it would be good if songs like this were lauded, just because it would send a message to singers and songwriters that writing and recording contemplative, intelligent, and heartfelt lyrics is still a worthwhile pursuit.
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Post by muscleclub on Oct 11, 2005 22:01:21 GMT -5
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Post by KikiMets on Oct 11, 2005 22:09:59 GMT -5
I think a lot of people in this thread need a chill pill. Kelly is my favorite artist, but it's not the end of the world if Gold Digger gets to #1 before BOY. Of course I want BOY to go to #1, but I'm just thrilled that the public has embraced such a heartfelt, quality song even though it's not the kind of song that typically becomes a hit these days. (In other words, the last paragraph of what sleepy time said). It's already #2 on Pop, will almost certainly hit the top 10 on the Hot 100, and is only just beginning to get attention at 2 other formats where it could be a smash (and heck, it could even break the record for most days at #1 on TRL by a solo artist - hmm, who holds that? ;)). No need for handwringing here.
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Robert J
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Post by Robert J on Oct 12, 2005 8:58:40 GMT -5
Is it just me, or does BOY's bullet seem to be dropping faster than those of the last three singles?
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KikiMets
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Post by KikiMets on Oct 12, 2005 9:06:00 GMT -5
Is it just me, or does BOY's bullet seem to be dropping faster than those of the last three singles? I think it's just you. The bullet is quite a bit bigger than Breakaway or SUBG's bullets when they had been out for the same amount of time and on par with what BTHE had. I was impressed that it sustained a quadruple-digit bullet for so long well into the top 10 - BTHE flew up the charts, but was back in triple digits well before it hit the top 10. BOY has a good chance of becoming Kelly's 6th top 10 single on the Hot 100 this week - it was #12 on the airplay chart last week and jumped 13-6 on the download chart this week.
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Post by MinusName on Oct 12, 2005 16:50:49 GMT -5
I think the bullet just seems a lot larger because it is in competition with another song with a larger bullet. It does seem like the bullets recently have been a lot higher than they were last fall, this past summer and especially since September there seems to be at least 3-4 songs with bullets over 1000. I don't remember that happening much last fall with exceptions being "Just Lose It" and "Over and Over," but I may be wrong.
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Post by mcbg1 on Oct 12, 2005 21:29:11 GMT -5
#9 this week on the Hot 100. W00t!
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Post by Say It Right Only On Sundays on Oct 12, 2005 23:06:54 GMT -5
I saw the video for this, and I wasn't impressed. It was a good video, but it is such a mash up of videos we have seen before. Especially the black background scene, everytime I see it I think Sinead and Nothing Compares 2 U.
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Post by HER MINAJesty on Oct 12, 2005 23:15:26 GMT -5
I saw the video for this, and I wasn't impressed. It was a good video, but it is such a mash up of videos we have seen before. Especially the black background scene, everytime I see it I think Sinead and Nothing Compares 2 U. lol thats funny u say that because my cousin said the same thing on the weekend, that it reminds him of Sinead O'Connor...I didnt see that myself, but I guess so To me it more reminds me of a mash of Destiny's Child Emotion video and Christina Aguilera's Beautiful. I love the song, its starting to get a little played out now but a great song...the video left me with something to be desired, tho....
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Post by max on Oct 13, 2005 5:25:34 GMT -5
Officially a TOP TEN HIT ON BILLBOARD HOT 100!!!!!!!!!! @ #9 this week
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Post by muscleclub on Oct 13, 2005 6:55:39 GMT -5
BOY bullet : + 788 GD bullet : +961 ------------------------- The bullet deference is way down to 173
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Post by Robert J on Oct 13, 2005 7:28:29 GMT -5
Man, if Kelly keeps Kanye out of the top spot entirely, that'd be just friggin' awesome.
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Post by pce2b on Oct 13, 2005 13:29:49 GMT -5
I agree that BTHE was a more exciting video. She looks great in this one, but ultimately its a little generic I think. The song itself is another story though...everyone I know who kinda likes it at first loves it more and more as they hear it. I think it will have the same staying power of the first three.
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Post by Me. I Am Justin... on Oct 13, 2005 17:00:40 GMT -5
The video spends it's 7th day at #1 on TRL.
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Post by muscleclub on Oct 13, 2005 20:29:34 GMT -5
Latest Update On POP!! BOY 8182 +857 GD 8094 +967 On this moring's update the spin deference was 25 spins ... now up to 88. Also the bullet deference is down to 110 ... 171 this morning! BOY looks like is gonna make it and become your new #1! ;)
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Post by Becks on Oct 14, 2005 9:44:15 GMT -5
And today: BOY: +804 GD: +867 The #1 spot is for you, Kelly
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Post by clem on Oct 14, 2005 17:31:17 GMT -5
Let's hope Kanye's bullet doesn't rise to 1000+ again.
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Post by MusicJunkie on Oct 14, 2005 21:44:43 GMT -5
Did anyone notice that Boston and Norfolk have started playing Gone? Is that the next single? I hope not!
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Post by KikiMets on Oct 14, 2005 21:49:26 GMT -5
I'm still pretty sure that Addicted is the next single and that those stations are just playing Gone because they feel like it (just like how that one station in Atlanta was playing Walk Away). I'll be listening extra carefully to how Kelly introduces her songs when I'm at her concert Sunday night to see if anything has changed.
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Post by britrocks16 on Oct 14, 2005 21:53:59 GMT -5
I'm still pretty sure that Addicted is the next single and that those stations are just playing Gone because they feel like it (just like how that one station in Atlanta was playing Walk Away). I'll be listening extra carefully to how Kelly introduces her songs when I'm at her concert Sunday night to see if anything has changed. How many of her concerts have you gone to? LOL! It seems like you're at her concert every other week!
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Post by KikiMets on Oct 14, 2005 22:01:06 GMT -5
I'm still pretty sure that Addicted is the next single and that those stations are just playing Gone because they feel like it (just like how that one station in Atlanta was playing Walk Away). I'll be listening extra carefully to how Kelly introduces her songs when I'm at her concert Sunday night to see if anything has changed. How many of her concerts have you gone to? LOL! It seems like you're at her concert every other week! Hey, it's not my fault she keeps coming to NYC! Trust me, it's really easy to rack up a long list of times you saw your favorite artist when you live in NYC or LA. This will be the 4th Kelly concert I'm going to this year (I saw her at Hammerstein Ballroom in April, at the Allure Beauty Live event in Central Park in May, and at Mohegan Sun Arena in August [where I had a meet & greet with Kelly after the show]). I also saw her on the American Idol tour 3 years ago and the Independent Tour about a year and a half ago (both at Nassau Coliseum). Plus, she was one of the performers at Z100's Jingle Ball when I went last year and I went to the taping of her Last Call With Carson Daly episode back in March.
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Post by muscleclub on Oct 14, 2005 22:04:50 GMT -5
I'm still pretty sure that Addicted is the next single and that those stations are just playing Gone because they feel like it (just like how that one station in Atlanta was playing Walk Away). I'll be listening extra carefully to how Kelly introduces her songs when I'm at her concert Sunday night to see if anything has changed. Could you please give her a big kiss from me!
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Post by Becks on Oct 15, 2005 3:33:11 GMT -5
A big kiss from me too! ^^
The bullets haven't changed since yesterday: BOY: +806 GD: +869
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Post by francky on Oct 15, 2005 5:40:31 GMT -5
Go Kelly!
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Post by Chato on Oct 15, 2005 6:08:47 GMT -5
Yay!!! She's got it . I hope she will stay on top for at least a month .
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Post by kwab on Oct 15, 2005 6:13:35 GMT -5
Kelly is now UN-officially #1!! :) :) 2 1 KELLY CLARKSON Because Of You 2004 RCA/RMG 8334 7571 763 66.154 1 2 MARIAH CAREY Shake It Off 2005 Island/IDJMG 8326 8555 -229 59.007 3 3 KANYE WEST Gold Digger 2005 Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam/IDJMG 8240 7421 819 68.744 4 4 GREEN DAY Wake Me Up When Sept... 2004 Reprise 6741 6649 92 50.218 6 5 BLACK EYED PEAS My Humps 2005 A&M/Interscope 6279 5824 455 40.915 5 6 WEEZER Beverly Hills 2005 Geffen 6010 6296 -286 40.259 9 7 NICKELBACK Photograph 2005 Roadrunner 5592 4877 715 37.331 10 8 FALL OUT BOY Sugar, We're Going D... 2005 Island/IDJMG 5353 4841 512 38.687 7 9 LIFEHOUSE You And Me 2005 Geffen 4998 5216 -218 36.091 13 10 BOW WOW Like You (f/Ciara) 2005 Sony Urban/Columbia 4815 4221 594 36.511
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Post by MusicJunkie on Oct 15, 2005 8:06:30 GMT -5
Yes! She's #1! She should still be there for tomorrow's update so she'll be #1 for the week. Congrats Kelly! 4th #1 and 4th top 2 SMASH this album. WOO-HOO!
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Post by muscleclub on Oct 15, 2005 8:21:14 GMT -5
UP WHERE WE BELONG!
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Post by bubblepop15 on Oct 15, 2005 8:50:52 GMT -5
Cool
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