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Post by pen on Feb 19, 2009 23:42:01 GMT -5
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Feb 20, 2009 2:48:47 GMT -5
Starts them, since the hyperlink stops at the first + sign.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 20, 2009 3:18:34 GMT -5
Well, I was talking specifically about Alternative charts because this is an Alternative forum. I wasn't denying them #1's they may have attained on different formats, but if those were among the 4, it doesn't change the fact that the song wasn't a #1 Alternative hit. Actually I believe it's called "Alternative/Rock" forum. And in its description it says: "Discuss the Alternative, Active Rock, and Rock formats here." And as Penance said, "Second Chance" went to #1 on Billboard Modern Rock. And if you wanna limit it to the word Alternative, then it went to #1 on R&R Alternative, which is the same thing as Billboard Modern Rock. It also went #1 on Alternative Mediabase, but as pointed out, that was mid-week, so I guess you can make a case. But this is basically an all-around #1 rock song. In fact it's probably been #1 for roughly 2 months straight on the overall rock charts I'd imagine.
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Post by PHOBES on Feb 20, 2009 15:53:18 GMT -5
#1 Billboard Mainstream Rock #1 R&R Active Rock #1 R&R Mainstream Rock
#1 Billboard Modern Rock #1 R&R Alternative Rock
#1 Mediabase Active Rock #1 Mediabase Mainstream Rock
#2 Mediabase Alternative Rock
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Post by crash46 on Feb 20, 2009 16:22:54 GMT -5
Starts them, since the hyperlink stops at the first + sign. And loading that linked page redirected me to an advertisement that was marked as an "attack site" by Foxfire. I've seen ads on AllAccess but none of them have ever tried to take over my computer. Apparently Billboard thinks its data is so precious that it can't even show the top twenty songs for free without first selling out to malicious ad companies. Another reason not to acknowledge anything Billboard, as if flawed methodology and continuity weren't reason enough. And I totally understand and don't mind Active Rock discussion in here (it's not like there's a better forum for that), but never in 8½ years of being a part of this R&R/Pulse community here have I mentioned anything to do with Active Rock without specifically saying that I'm talking about Active Rock. It has always been second fiddle here, and always will be.
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Post by PHOBES on Feb 20, 2009 16:38:50 GMT -5
Starts them, since the hyperlink stops at the first + sign. Never in 8½ years of being a part of this R&R/Pulse community here have I mentioned anything to do with Active Rock without specifically saying that I'm talking about Active Rock. It has always been second fiddle here, and always will be. So it's basically your way or the highway, nice.
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Post by crash46 on Feb 20, 2009 18:15:53 GMT -5
Now I didn't create the standards here. The standard chart here is Alternative. The standard provider of the Alternative chart is Mediabase and its rolling spin totals which are finalized weekly each Sunday night. Just like the standard method of starting a song topic is Artist - "Title". And it is also a standard that any attempts to move astray from any established standard will lead to intense interrogation and teeth-gnashing scorn!
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Post by pen on Feb 20, 2009 18:29:17 GMT -5
Yawn, silly arguments make me sleepy.
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Post by crash46 on Feb 21, 2009 0:48:01 GMT -5
Shinedown makes me sleepy.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 21, 2009 1:00:00 GMT -5
I disagree with you saying Alternative is the standard chart. Especially given at this point the active rock panel is bigger.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Feb 21, 2009 10:43:05 GMT -5
Yeah, this board is clearly a nice mixture of Modern and Active formats. Neither one take precedent here.
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Post by fran182 on Feb 23, 2009 17:40:38 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 40 on Mediabase CHR/Top 40: 42 37 SHINEDOWN Second Chance 956 687 269 3.647 63 stations playing. Watch this one starting to fly. Next big rock ballad. Top 20 on Hot 100, there we go! Well, that may not be possible, but what this already achieved is more than satisfactory. Top 40 on Hot 100 seems locked right now. On BB rock charts: #1 on Mainstream Rock for 10 straight weeks. #1 on Modern Rock for 2 non straight weeks. Currently, it's #47 on iTunes Top 100 Songs.
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Post by fran182 on Feb 23, 2009 17:44:56 GMT -5
Biggest thread ever on the Alternative/Rock section of Pulse Music Boards.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Feb 23, 2009 18:57:53 GMT -5
Actually I think the Hinder's Use Me song topic is still on top. But this one is up there, as it should be. It reached #1 on every rock radio airplay survey.
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Post by pen on Feb 23, 2009 19:00:50 GMT -5
Actually I think the Hinder's Use Me song topic is still on top. But this one is up there, as it should be. It reached #1 on every rock radio airplay survey. No, he's right. Sort by replies. Hinder's topic isn't even close.
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Post by PHOBES on Feb 23, 2009 19:13:35 GMT -5
^And "You Found Me" has passed "Use Me" by about 4,000 views.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Feb 24, 2009 20:01:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess it has the most replies. Don't forget the 60 or so that were deleted.
But I'd assume true popularity of a topic comes from the viewers. Not the posters. Hinder has that, strangely.
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Post by pen on Feb 24, 2009 20:07:54 GMT -5
No, it doesn't, because Confession just said that The Fray has the most viewers.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Feb 24, 2009 20:12:29 GMT -5
I haven't seen that. But I'll trust it.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Mar 2, 2009 19:12:20 GMT -5
This will be passed for a second time at #1 to Love Hurts. Anyone recall the last time a Modern chart-topper dropped from the top spot for two weeks only to take it back?
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Post by PHOBES on Mar 25, 2009 12:39:08 GMT -5
This song has just hit its third or fourth wind (well on pop it has anyway). It had managed to get up to 24th with a huge bullet on the top 40 chart without getting any play from American Top 40. This week AT40 finally added it and it debuted and number 32 (Can you say national syndication?). Top 20 seems almost guaranteed. With the exception of Active, this is easily their biggest hit on every format they've ever charted on now.
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Mar 27, 2009 14:34:12 GMT -5
It reached the top 40 on Hot AC this week too.
44 40 SHINEDOWN Second Chance 310 234 76 1.642
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Mar 28, 2009 10:21:05 GMT -5
I will not be surprised if this song makes a full year on Billboard's Active / Mainstream combined airplay chart.
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Post by Cody on Mar 28, 2009 10:53:07 GMT -5
I will not be surprised if this song makes a full year on Billboard's Active / Mainstream combined airplay chart. I would be very surprised. The songs that usually do that are ones that take a really long time to get going, then after peaking high (but usually not at #1) CHR catches onto it, and because of that the rock formats keep playing it heavily and it sticks around until it reaches the full year. And usually they dont have strong follow up singles. This wont be the case for "Second Chance" because it caught on right away and a strong single is on its way up on Active in"Sound Of Madness"
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Mar 28, 2009 11:41:58 GMT -5
Considering Sound Of Madness is off to a moderate start, P.Ds. may play Second Chance the rest of spring. I doubt it will make 52 weeks, but as I said, it would not surprise me at all.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Mar 30, 2009 18:46:11 GMT -5
This will debut on Billboard next week at #38 on HOT ADULT of all charts. It's also the fifth biggest gainer on CHR, and the biggest by a rock act. For such an ordinary song (in my eyes), this song looks unstoppable on everything but Country & Western.
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Post by PHOBES on Mar 30, 2009 19:33:26 GMT -5
^So did Lips of an Angel until Jack Ingram covered it.
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Post by Cody on Mar 30, 2009 20:59:10 GMT -5
This will debut on Billboard next week at #38 on HOT ADULT of all charts. It's also the fifth biggest gainer on CHR, and the biggest by a rock act. For such an ordinary song (in my eyes), this song looks unstoppable on everything but Country & Western. what about Rhythmic
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Post by PHOBES on Mar 30, 2009 21:03:59 GMT -5
This will debut on Billboard next week at #38 on HOT ADULT of all charts. It's also the fifth biggest gainer on CHR, and the biggest by a rock act. For such an ordinary song (in my eyes), this song looks unstoppable on everything but Country & Western. what about Rhythmic We're still waiting for the Kevin Rudolf remix featuring TPain and Akon. You know, like every rhythmic song these days.
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Post by Pipa on Mar 31, 2009 16:53:35 GMT -5
what about Rhythmic We're still waiting for the Kevin Rudolf remix featuring TPain and Akon. You know, like every rhythmic song these days. "Goodbye is a second chance, Sexy girl, take off your pants, eh, eh, eh, eh..."
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