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Post by aTunes on Mar 14, 2009 15:57:18 GMT -5
Wrong song for rock. With half the album tailor made for rock radio, why release one of the poppy ones?
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Post by pen on Mar 14, 2009 16:05:30 GMT -5
Because their poppier hits have always been their biggest successes?
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 14, 2009 16:17:10 GMT -5
Is that true? I feel like it could be argued that "Figured You Out" was the biggest rock hit off the Long Road. And that "Animals" was the biggest rock hit off All The Right Reasons.
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Post by pen on Mar 14, 2009 16:31:47 GMT -5
Is that true? I feel like it could be argued that "Figured You Out" was the biggest rock hit off the Long Road. And that "Animals" was the biggest rock hit off All The Right Reasons. Okay, you can feel that way, but you'd be wrong. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickelback_discographyBetween "Someday" and "Figured You Out", it's close. Very close. But I feel "Someday"'s wider success pushes it ahead. But between "Photograph" and "Animals", there's no question. Absolutely none. "Gotta Be Somebody" versus "Something In Your Mouth", it's hard to judge because it's pretty even, and I don't think "Somebody" had enough time before "Mouth" was pushed.
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Post by aTunes on Mar 14, 2009 20:51:48 GMT -5
Is that true? I feel like it could be argued that "Figured You Out" was the biggest rock hit off the Long Road. And that "Animals" was the biggest rock hit off All The Right Reasons. Okay, you can feel that way, but you'd be wrong. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickelback_discographyBetween "Someday" and "Figured You Out", it's close. Very close. But I feel "Someday"'s wider success pushes it ahead. But between "Photograph" and "Animals", there's no question. Absolutely none. "Gotta Be Somebody" versus "Something In Your Mouth", it's hard to judge because it's pretty even, and I don't think "Somebody" had enough time before "Mouth" was pushed. You're right about Alt, but as far as Active you're absolutely wrong. Figured You Out and Animals were BY FAR the biggest Active hits from those albums, not even debatable (in fact FYO is tied with How You Remind Me for their biggest hit ever on Active). And the SIYM vs GBS comparison is a total joke, SIYM obliterated GBS at Active. So actually their rock songs have been the bigger hits at active, hence why it's stupid for them to be sending this in favor of Shakin Hands, Just To Get High, Burn It To the Ground, or S.E.X.
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Post by pen on Mar 15, 2009 0:11:14 GMT -5
Okay, you can feel that way, but you'd be wrong. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickelback_discographyBetween "Someday" and "Figured You Out", it's close. Very close. But I feel "Someday"'s wider success pushes it ahead. But between "Photograph" and "Animals", there's no question. Absolutely none. "Gotta Be Somebody" versus "Something In Your Mouth", it's hard to judge because it's pretty even, and I don't think "Somebody" had enough time before "Mouth" was pushed. You're right about Alt, but as far as Active you're absolutely wrong. Figured You Out and Animals were BY FAR the biggest Active hits from those albums, not even debatable (in fact FYO is tied with How You Remind Me for their biggest hit ever on Active). And the SIYM vs GBS comparison is a total joke, SIYM obliterated GBS at Active. So actually their rock songs have been the bigger hits at active, hence why it's stupid for them to be sending this in favor of Shakin Hands, Just To Get High, Burn It To the Ground, or S.E.X. If you look at Wikipedia, both "Photograph" and "Animals" hit #1 on Active and "Figured You Out" only beat "Someday" by one position. I didn't know we were picking nits on which chart here, I thought we were talking about rock as a whole, which includes both Active and Alternative. I don't know how long each song was in their position for what weeks, and I'm not about to go figuring that out either. Really I didn't want to start getting into a discussion on charts because it's not something that interests me and I always end up doing way more work than I want to just to make a point. I was really thinking overall when I said their poppy hits are their biggest and I think their chart positions back that up, as well as how many charts they pull numbers at. Yeah, they do well with rock songs too, but only on the rock formats, and usually it's negligible. At least the pop songs have the added benefit of being played on other formats too and are usually the ones that get promoted a lot more in other media. And then they can release a rock song afterward and get the benefit from that too.
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Post by mcbrearty on Mar 15, 2009 7:19:32 GMT -5
I think this song is so good that doesnt matter where its sent to, the lyrics are awesome.
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Post by pen on Mar 15, 2009 7:23:18 GMT -5
So if it was sent to, for example, a wood chipper. That would be okay?
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Post by mcbrearty on Mar 15, 2009 13:17:19 GMT -5
So if it was sent to, for example, a wood chipper. That would be okay? Probably. Its that damn good.
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Post by pen on Mar 15, 2009 14:11:54 GMT -5
Fine, whatever. I don't care.
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Post by pen on Mar 15, 2009 15:58:25 GMT -5
Well Photograph is obviously slow.
How You Remind Me......I dunno. That's actually debatable. It's not fast, but it's darker and harder than the others, so......I dunno.
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Post by fran182 on Apr 4, 2009 18:11:15 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 50 on Mediabase Active:
60 48 NICKELBACK If Today Was Your Last Day 173 97 76 0.564
20 stations playing.
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Post by Matt4319 on Apr 4, 2009 20:42:13 GMT -5
I like this now. :-\ Nickelback's songs, almost without fail, have a way to pull me in even just somewhat.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Apr 9, 2009 13:18:55 GMT -5
Based on initial listens, I think I may end up liking this more than "Gotta Be Somebody." Certainly I instantly like it more than "Something in Your Mouth" and also "I Would Come for You," or whatever it's called. That song just seems kind of lazy and uninspired to me.
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Post by aTunes on Apr 13, 2009 14:41:08 GMT -5
I think this is already proving to be a bad choice for rock radio. It's starting off way too slow for an Active staple like Nickelback, who are also coming off a #1. This is too pop, and it doesn't have the first single advantage GBS had that got that so high on rock.
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Post by Cody on Apr 13, 2009 15:08:25 GMT -5
eh I think it'll be a slow riser, but have similar success to "Savin' Me" on the rock formats. So top 15 on Active, top 30 on Alternative
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Post by fran182 on Apr 13, 2009 15:53:11 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 40 on Mediabase Active:
45 40 NICKELBACK If Today Was Your Last Day 274 209 65 0.933
22 stations playing.
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Post by aTunes on Apr 13, 2009 17:08:52 GMT -5
eh I think it'll be a slow riser, but have similar success to "Savin' Me" on the rock formats. So top 15 on Active, top 30 on Alternative That's a crappy performance though when they have a slew of other songs on the album screaming Active #1's.
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Post by Cody on Apr 13, 2009 17:43:55 GMT -5
I guess, but when you have too many songs still getting airplay all over the place, eventually they cross-over everywhere with a few adds here and there and it hurts the performance of the song thats meant for that format.
For example, I know people want Just To Get High released to rock, and I agree, but if they put that out while this is the current for pop, the pop success of ITWYLD is gonna overshadow JTGH's success, and Active stations are just gonna start adding ITWYLD because of its success, not as much as JTGH, but it will just limit its performance. I say let this go til it dies out naturally, then throw "Just To Get High" or "Shakin' Hands" or "S.E.X." or w/e you want to be huge on this format while "I'd Come For You" gets its US release and success, as that kind of song has absolutely no chance to do anything on the rock formats
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Post by mcbrearty on Apr 14, 2009 17:05:38 GMT -5
Chad confirmed that a video is going to be shot for "Burn It To the Ground" at some point, a few days ago. So that will be a future rock release.
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Apr 23, 2009 10:06:59 GMT -5
#36 on BB Mainstream Rock
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Post by aTunes on Apr 23, 2009 10:49:22 GMT -5
This is already losing spins.
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Post by atlantaboy on Apr 23, 2009 14:51:20 GMT -5
This is already losing spins. Yeah really doesn't seem like a big Alternative hit to me...lyrics and music are too ordinary I think
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Post by aTunes on Apr 30, 2009 1:33:16 GMT -5
I just heard Burn It to the Ground on my Active station today. Sounds like an even bigger active smash than SIYM when you hear it on the radio. They need to forget this, and get that out ASAP to rock formats.
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Post by Pipa on Apr 30, 2009 14:18:39 GMT -5
Canadian Rock stations are scrapping this for BITTG too. Why not release that?
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on May 1, 2009 9:24:12 GMT -5
its not their only song that didn't do well on rock stations, "if everyone cared" peaked at #37 on BB mainstream rock
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 1, 2009 13:56:53 GMT -5
They might as well just release everything everywhere. Maybe not push it everywhere, but release it nonetheless. They have nothing to lose at this point. Those who like them, like them; and those that hate them, hate them...and they're going to continue to be one of the two or three biggest rock bands of the decade regardless of what decisions they make in terms of releasing stuff to rock radio.
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Post by pen on May 1, 2009 13:59:30 GMT -5
Honestly, I've always wanted bands to just pick like three songs from an album and send all three to radio and be like, alright, play whichever songs you want. I mean, sure maybe each individual song won't chart as high, but they'll be more spread across the format. Seems like much more effective way of doing things.
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Post by atlantaboy on May 2, 2009 18:51:24 GMT -5
I meant the Modern stations. I'm surprised If Everyone Cared even went to rock radio. Other than the CD, I've never heard that song on radio or have not seen it on TV. It was basically a CHR/HAC hit...for Nickelback seems like you have to flip between Alternative or Active, Hot AC, and CHR to hear all their singles on the radio Kinda weird with this CD cause their biggest hits so far have been on Active and Hot AC
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