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Post by Pulse on Nov 21, 2008 15:15:22 GMT -5
Ave Maria for Urban?
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Nov 21, 2008 15:18:37 GMT -5
Yeah. I want them to end the era on a soft light note (instead of throwing out a song like Video Phone last) and I think out of the two lightest tracks on the album (Disappear and Ave Maria) Ave Maria would work better for Urban (not that either of them would be likely to receive heavy play on Urban but at that point I won't be worried about chart performance). |
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Post by Monroe on Nov 21, 2008 15:27:35 GMT -5
I only like three songs from Beyonce's side.
If I Were A Boy, Halo and Disappear. Those should be the CHR singles. I think anything on Sasha's side would be an urban hit.
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Post by SWEET DREAMS on Nov 21, 2008 15:27:46 GMT -5
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Post by Nevermind on Nov 21, 2008 15:57:48 GMT -5
Beyoncé:
I Am... Sasha Fierce
[Columbia; 2008]
Rating: 5.7Though she's only 27, Beyoncé goes out of her way to be an old-fashioned celebrity, the type offended by Pete Wentz blogging about Oscar the Grouch or Britney Spears Twittering her life away. "I feel that, especially now with the Internet and paparazzi and camera phones, it's so difficult to maintain mystery," she said earlier this year. "It's almost impossible to have superstars now, because people will never get enough." And, in our TMZ-addled world, her reluctance to entertain most questions about her personal life is both refreshing and a bit stubborn. She's a megawatt anachronism in sky-high heels and a frozen smile. So, without much outside interference, Beyoncé's fan-artist connection relies almost wholly on her music-- the only place to find the "real" Beyoncé is on her albums. With that direct relationship in mind comes I Am... Sasha Fierce, a supposed window into the soul of Beyoncé as well as her hair-flipping sexpot alter ego who happens to be blessed with the ultimate "Project Runway" moniker. The "split-personality" gimmick is now a tired and, more often than not, hapless pop theme (see: Garth Brooks's proto-emo character Chris Gaines, T.I. vs. T.I.P, the street vs. boardroom dynamic of hubby Jay-Z's Kingdom Come). Sasha Fierce will not disturb that unfortunate trend. Unlike 2006's underrated funk-fest B'Day, which held together remarkably well as an LP and saw Beyoncé ditching sap for sass, this record isn't supposed to coalesce. Speaking once again to her penchant for the outdated and obsolete, it's a 2xCD affair also available in a deluxe edition with five additional tracks. (Didn't anyone tell her about Christina Aguilera's recent diva-fied double disc disappointment Back to Basics ... and that you're supposed to put the deluxe edition out six to eight months after the regular edition?) Sasha Fierce puts Beyoncé back into the "singles artist" column-- only the blindly devout would consider slogging through the deluxe edition multiple times; only the foolishly puritanical would deny the occasional high-gloss super hits. Nobody wins the Beyoncé vs. Sasha battle-- often, the listener loses. On the Beyoncé side, while tracks like the effective (and affecting) gender-bender "If I Were a Boy" and the stunning love-as-god power ballad "Halo" (courtesy of "Bleeding Love" scribe Ryan Tedder) find the singer both strident and exposed, there's lots of wispy nonsense seemingly dug out of Celine Dion's scrap pile. Her twist on "Ave Maria" is vocally impeccable, but it reads more like recital fodder rather than a true confessional. Flip to Sasha, which is more listenable overall, but also more pandering. There's the one that sounds like past Beyoncé hits ("Single Ladies [Put a Ring on It]"), the one that sounds like "A Milli" ("Diva"), and the one that sounds like Rihanna ("Sweet Dreams"). For someone famous for effortlessly sparking trends, there are a surprising amount of opportunistic retreads here. Beyoncé is a capital-S Star, and one glimpse of her onstage makes it clear why she's earned her right to operate above the fray. But an album isn't a concert, and there are simply not enough Sasha Fierce songs worthy of her or our time. (The hopelessly benign "Smash Into You" will provide a prime bathroom break moment on her next world tour, though.) While this LP is more painstaking than B'Day, the extra effort dulls any emotional wallop; B'Day, in all its hectic glory, offered a much more vivid peek into the elusive mind of Beyoncé than Sasha Fierce, which often reads more like projection than reality. Considering the wealth of characters this multi-talent is currently amassing between movies and alter egos, the notion of Beyoncé is more splintered now than ever. Sasha Fierce doesn't help her put the pieces back together. - Ryan Dombal, November 21, 2008 www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/147597-beyonc-i-am-sasha-fierce Excellent review. Spot on. |
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Post by ₫anny Jerz ♔ on Nov 21, 2008 16:16:33 GMT -5
This album has a way of growing on you. Tracks I would have initially skipped are growing on me and I'm finding myself liking just about the entire album. She really put together a solid album. Critics are putting too much emphasis on the split personality thing and I think that gimmick takes away from the quality of the music.
I'd agree that the tracks aren't as hard-hitting as B-Day and they aren't as smooth as Dangerously In Love, but I really like the contrast of the two CD's and despite being separate, they easily could be placed on one CD and flow together just fine. To make the album a perfect 10, I'd put the album together as one CD and scrap 2 or 3 filler songs. Overall, though, it's still another strong effort from Beyonce. This is how I'd do the singles:
1. If I Were A Boy / Single Ladies
2. Halo / Diva
3. Sweet Dreams / Ego
4. Radio (all formats)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2008 18:18:47 GMT -5
Still not feeling this album that much, but I appreciate her stepping out of her boundaries. It just seems a little forced. It's like she's trying too hard to cater to all audiences. It just comes off flat.
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Post by dahazeleyedbandit1 on Nov 21, 2008 18:24:44 GMT -5
Should be SOMETHING!! Lol! |
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Post by dahazeleyedbandit1 on Nov 21, 2008 18:35:37 GMT -5
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Post by LC3 on Nov 21, 2008 21:41:34 GMT -5
Beyoncé:
I Am... Sasha Fierce
[Columbia; 2008]
Rating: 5.7Though she's only 27, Beyoncé goes out of her way to be an old-fashioned celebrity, the type offended by Pete Wentz blogging about Oscar the Grouch or Britney Spears Twittering her life away. "I feel that, especially now with the Internet and paparazzi and camera phones, it's so difficult to maintain mystery," she said earlier this year. "It's almost impossible to have superstars now, because people will never get enough." And, in our TMZ-addled world, her reluctance to entertain most questions about her personal life is both refreshing and a bit stubborn. She's a megawatt anachronism in sky-high heels and a frozen smile. So, without much outside interference, Beyoncé's fan-artist connection relies almost wholly on her music-- the only place to find the "real" Beyoncé is on her albums. With that direct relationship in mind comes I Am... Sasha Fierce, a supposed window into the soul of Beyoncé as well as her hair-flipping sexpot alter ego who happens to be blessed with the ultimate "Project Runway" moniker. The "split-personality" gimmick is now a tired and, more often than not, hapless pop theme (see: Garth Brooks's proto-emo character Chris Gaines, T.I. vs. T.I.P, the street vs. boardroom dynamic of hubby Jay-Z's Kingdom Come). Sasha Fierce will not disturb that unfortunate trend. Unlike 2006's underrated funk-fest B'Day, which held together remarkably well as an LP and saw Beyoncé ditching sap for sass, this record isn't supposed to coalesce. Speaking once again to her penchant for the outdated and obsolete, it's a 2xCD affair also available in a deluxe edition with five additional tracks. (Didn't anyone tell her about Christina Aguilera's recent diva-fied double disc disappointment Back to Basics ... and that you're supposed to put the deluxe edition out six to eight months after the regular edition?) Sasha Fierce puts Beyoncé back into the "singles artist" column-- only the blindly devout would consider slogging through the deluxe edition multiple times; only the foolishly puritanical would deny the occasional high-gloss super hits. Nobody wins the Beyoncé vs. Sasha battle-- often, the listener loses. On the Beyoncé side, while tracks like the effective (and affecting) gender-bender "If I Were a Boy" and the stunning love-as-god power ballad "Halo" (courtesy of "Bleeding Love" scribe Ryan Tedder) find the singer both strident and exposed, there's lots of wispy nonsense seemingly dug out of Celine Dion's scrap pile. Her twist on "Ave Maria" is vocally impeccable, but it reads more like recital fodder rather than a true confessional. Flip to Sasha, which is more listenable overall, but also more pandering. There's the one that sounds like past Beyoncé hits ("Single Ladies [Put a Ring on It]"), the one that sounds like "A Milli" ("Diva"), and the one that sounds like Rihanna ("Sweet Dreams"). For someone famous for effortlessly sparking trends, there are a surprising amount of opportunistic retreads here. Beyoncé is a capital-S Star, and one glimpse of her onstage makes it clear why she's earned her right to operate above the fray. But an album isn't a concert, and there are simply not enough Sasha Fierce songs worthy of her or our time. (The hopelessly benign "Smash Into You" will provide a prime bathroom break moment on her next world tour, though.) While this LP is more painstaking than B'Day, the extra effort dulls any emotional wallop; B'Day, in all its hectic glory, offered a much more vivid peek into the elusive mind of Beyoncé than Sasha Fierce, which often reads more like projection than reality. Considering the wealth of characters this multi-talent is currently amassing between movies and alter egos, the notion of Beyoncé is more splintered now than ever. Sasha Fierce doesn't help her put the pieces back together. - Ryan Dombal, November 21, 2008 www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/147597-beyonc-i-am-sasha-fierce Excellent review. Spot on. Agree to disagree I suppose...couldnt disagree more with this review |
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Post by rdh: THE YONKAZ! on Nov 22, 2008 11:10:56 GMT -5
Anyone got the latest pop bars?
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Post by B-Boy on Nov 22, 2008 17:16:19 GMT -5
"If I Were A Boy" is getting played on one of the urban stations down here. Just when I thought the song was exclusively pop and rhythmic.
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Post by rdh: THE YONKAZ! on Nov 22, 2008 19:29:17 GMT -5
Were these posted? Shane Mercado making his rounds on morning talk shows. |
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Post by dahazeleyedbandit1 on Nov 22, 2008 21:37:42 GMT -5
^ Yes I saw this and it was posted. He is making is rounds on a lot of morning talk shows and news programs too. LOL
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Post by SHOOTER on Nov 22, 2008 22:55:51 GMT -5
"If I Were A Boy" is getting played on one of the urban stations down here. Just when I thought the song was exclusively pop and rhythmic. It's being sent to Urban next week. |
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Post by dahazeleyedbandit1 on Nov 22, 2008 23:17:39 GMT -5
I wonder what the video treatment will be for "Diva"??? That should be very interesting since Sasha is coming for the rest of these R&B and pop 'divas'! Anyway, can't wait to see Ms. Bee tomorrow night at the AMAs...thats gonna be sick. People will be talking about her performance come Monday morning!!!   |
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Post by CTE on Nov 22, 2008 23:41:19 GMT -5
I think I'm in love with my radio...
I love that song.
Diva? not so much.
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Post by CTE on Nov 22, 2008 23:42:43 GMT -5
I like the Standard Cover better then the D.E. Cover! Atleast she could of put the Standard Cover (Front&Back) Pix in the D.E. Booklet! Can you post the front and back cover for the Standard album? |
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Post by dahazeleyedbandit1 on Nov 22, 2008 23:50:29 GMT -5
I think I'm in love with my radio... I love that song. Diva? not so much. LOL..."Diva" is just one of those real hood-swagger songs that can't be taken seriously but women will rock cuz its cute. But I know the video is going to be Beyoncé in her extra Sasha Fierce 'hood/glam"glory to the 1000 power  |
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Post by rydeordie on Nov 23, 2008 0:05:14 GMT -5
I kind of hope in the future there is an edition released that combines both discs. Maybe call it "I Sasha Am Fierce" lol
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Post by CTE on Nov 23, 2008 0:29:55 GMT -5
I kind of hope in the future there is an edition released that combines both discs. Maybe call it "I Sasha Am Fierce" lol I do, on my iPod. |
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Post by LC3 on Nov 23, 2008 1:03:32 GMT -5
"If I Were A Boy" is getting played on one of the urban stations down here. Just when I thought the song was exclusively pop and rhythmic. It's being sent to Urban next week. Oh really? Are they sending SL to pop next week too? |
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Nov 23, 2008 3:46:09 GMT -5
I kind of hope in the future there is an edition released that combines both discs. Maybe call it "I Sasha Am Fierce" lol There will probably be a re-release at some point next year with some additional songs and alternate remixes of some songs already. Maybe even a DVD? Hopefully. |
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Post by SWEET DREAMS on Nov 23, 2008 7:56:07 GMT -5
I kind of hope in the future there is an edition released that combines both discs. Maybe call it "I Sasha Am Fierce" lol There will probably be a re-release at some point next year with some additional songs and alternate remixes of some songs already. Maybe even a DVD? Hopefully. There will be a Spanish version of the album and a video anthology released in like February for the album. Not sure about a re-release but it's Matthew so there will be one eventually. BUT I did hear that Walmart is having some special this week, where the album will be all on one disc and the other disc is a DVD. It's going to be around $25. I heard about it from a Beyonce fanboard so it could be speculation. I'm calling my Walmart tomorrow to find out if this is true and I'll update. |
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Post by rdh: THE YONKAZ! on Nov 23, 2008 9:30:13 GMT -5
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Post by SWEET DREAMS on Nov 23, 2008 9:47:48 GMT -5
That looks good! It looks like the Diva set cause she got her gangsta girl face on and she got her Sasha Fierce glove! lol.
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Post by LC3 on Nov 23, 2008 11:07:20 GMT -5
Haha...well it better be Diva! Haha...doesnt look very Halo to me! Im liking the look though for sure! Looks interesting...I hope its in color!!!
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Post by abc on Nov 23, 2008 11:15:38 GMT -5
Haha...well it better be Diva! Haha...doesnt look very Halo to me! Im liking the look though for sure! Looks interesting...I hope its in color!!! i hope so |
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Post by ₫anny Jerz ♔ on Nov 23, 2008 11:35:55 GMT -5
Interesting pics. Definitely for "Diva". lol
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Post by Mikal on Nov 23, 2008 11:36:30 GMT -5
Album debuts at #10 in UK :(
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