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Post by Pipa on Sept 29, 2008 20:19:25 GMT -5
Sorry, this song breaks them from me. Staind are now the Goo Goo Dolls of the nu / grunge era. That's actually a pretty good analogy: they both started out with heavier roots and then pretty much turned into pop acts. Of course, I prefer Staind's lighter fare to their heavier material, but neither of them will ever create another song like "Long Way Down".
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Post by jdmasta289 on Sept 30, 2008 16:27:19 GMT -5
Sorry, this song breaks them from me. Staind are now the Goo Goo Dolls of the nu / grunge era. That's actually a pretty good analogy: they both started out with heavier roots and then pretty much turned into pop acts. Of course, I prefer Staind's lighter fare to their heavier material, but neither of them will ever create another song like "Long Way Down". The difference is that Staind are still dominating the format after nine years of prominence, whereas the Goo Goo Dolls faded quickly after their Dizzy Up The Girl album, at least at this format. And they only really enjoyed prominence for about two albums (as opposed to Staind's five). I'm not sure the Goo Goo Dolls were influenced by metal to the extent Staind is. Staind is here to stay because of their metallic sound. The Goo Goo Dolls never would have written songs like "Falling", "For You", and "Price To Play", let alone sending them to the format to perform.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Sept 30, 2008 16:35:22 GMT -5
Right. That's why I qualified the analogy with the "grunge / nu metal" adjective. The point is they've changed their roots to make easy cash. But for me, they've made the same basic song too many times. But radio and many fans will still love them.
For Goo Goo Dolls, they just went top 10 on their current format of Adult. They still are getting it done for their listeners too.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Sept 30, 2008 17:57:36 GMT -5
Right. That's why I qualified the analogy with the "grunge / nu metal" adjective. The point is they've changed their roots to make easy cash. But for me, they've made the same basic song too many times. But radio and many fans will still love them. For Goo Goo Dolls, they just went top 10 on their current format of Adult. They still are getting it done for their listeners too. I freaking hate people saying "they only did it for the money", guess what maybe they wrote a catchy song that THEY actually liked and wanted people to hear it, then every person on the planet cries SELL OUT. Get over it, its a good song, and whoa if it makes money for them, gee that's such a bad thing. You know i should go to work JUST for the hell of it.........
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Post by fran182 on Oct 2, 2008 14:14:45 GMT -5
Right. That's why I qualified the analogy with the "grunge / nu metal" adjective. The point is they've changed their roots to make easy cash. But for me, they've made the same basic song too many times. But radio and many fans will still love them. For Goo Goo Dolls, they just went top 10 on their current format of Adult. They still are getting it done for their listeners too. I freaking hate people saying "they only did it for the money", guess what maybe they wrote a catchy song that THEY actually liked and wanted people to hear it, then every person on the planet cries SELL OUT. Get over it, its a good song, and whoa if it makes money for them, gee that's such a bad thing. You know i should go to work JUST for the hell of it......... so true
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Post by musicaddict on Oct 2, 2008 14:27:57 GMT -5
I freaking hate people saying "they only did it for the money", guess what maybe they wrote a catchy song that THEY actually liked and wanted people to hear it, then every person on the planet cries SELL OUT. Get over it, its a good song, and whoa if it makes money for them, gee that's such a bad thing. You know i should go to work JUST for the hell of it......... so true x2
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Oct 4, 2008 17:05:45 GMT -5
FMQB has this now listed as being available for Nov 24-25.....anyone heard why the delay?? Is it just because "Believe" has not fully played out?
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Young Money
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Post by Young Money on Oct 4, 2008 18:24:01 GMT -5
Probably
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Post by fran182 on Nov 29, 2008 18:21:15 GMT -5
Top 50 on Active:
57 50 STAIND All I Want 146 88 58 0.328
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Post by halo19 on Nov 30, 2008 22:31:52 GMT -5
I don't get why they couldn't have released it a bit sooner. "Believe" has sharply been decreasing the past few weeks.
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Post by Young Money on Nov 30, 2008 22:58:04 GMT -5
I've already played this out like 2 months ago.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Nov 30, 2008 23:51:34 GMT -5
This should also do well.
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Post by fran182 on Dec 8, 2008 11:57:41 GMT -5
Curious to know how this will do...Especially in alternative, considering it's the follow up for a #1 song...I think top 5 in both active and alternative would be a good result, but I doubt it will be able to go that high.
peak predictions:
#11 on Modern Rock #10 on Mainstream Rock
After 15 weeks "The Illusion Of Progress" sold 265,919 copies in US and it's currently sitting at #156 on the BB200.
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Post by fran182 on Dec 8, 2008 12:00:14 GMT -5
Alternative:
53 44 STAIND All I Want 233 149 84 1.106
Active:
45 37 STAIND All I Want 240 172 68 0.610
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Dec 11, 2008 18:07:34 GMT -5
Debuts at #40 on Mainstream Rock
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Post by PHOBES on Dec 14, 2008 14:36:29 GMT -5
Well, I'm watching the Bucs/Falcons game on FOX, and I just saw the first Idol commercial of the year. This song was the one featured in the background of the commercial, kinda surprising considering they now have a slew of artists that could contribute a song lol.
I smell crossover, and I really wouldn't mind cause I really like this song now. It was decent at first, but after awhile I was able to get over the "genericness" of it.
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Post by mcbrearty on Dec 18, 2008 9:10:53 GMT -5
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PHOBES
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Post by PHOBES on Dec 18, 2008 13:58:49 GMT -5
^Believe part 2...literally
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Post by mcbrearty on Dec 18, 2008 14:46:04 GMT -5
Kinda cool idea I think.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Dec 18, 2008 21:52:23 GMT -5
#32 on Mainstream Rock
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PHOBES
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Post by PHOBES on Dec 23, 2008 13:06:03 GMT -5
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Post by Cody on Dec 23, 2008 13:08:30 GMT -5
What the hell????? All I Want is the best choice on the album
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Post by fran182 on Dec 23, 2008 15:48:49 GMT -5
I'm really happy that "The Way I Am" is going to be a single!
It's my favorite song of the new record!
"All I Want" is my 2nd favorite!
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Both are better and more radio friendly than "Believe"! Don't get why it was the first single...
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Post by Ron57 on Dec 23, 2008 20:52:23 GMT -5
Believe is probably the most boring song I've heard in a while, this one is definitely 10 times better.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Dec 24, 2008 11:45:08 GMT -5
Debuts at #35 on Modern Rock
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Post by fran182 on Dec 27, 2008 14:44:29 GMT -5
#29 on Mainstream Rock.
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Post by fran182 on Dec 31, 2008 11:24:12 GMT -5
#32 on Modern Rock.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jan 14, 2009 15:11:41 GMT -5
#30 on Modern Rock.
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Post by Young Money on Jan 14, 2009 17:23:00 GMT -5
What about Mainstream?
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Post by PHOBES on Jan 14, 2009 22:32:30 GMT -5
#30, just like last week. It's peak was two weeks ago when it hit #29.
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