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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jan 21, 2006 15:35:24 GMT -5
I still hear BOY all the time on my stations. Time for a new song, I say.
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Post by Wasted on Jan 21, 2006 15:37:30 GMT -5
I still hear BOY all the time on my stations. Time for a new song, I say. Agreed, but I'm still sad it's "Walk Away." I know it'll be huge but I'd of prefered "Addicted" or "Hear Me."
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Post by Filthy Pop on Jan 21, 2006 15:52:48 GMT -5
Yeah but Walk Away is still pretty good!
OT: BTW I love your banner, definitely my favorite song on the album!
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Post by John77 on Jan 21, 2006 15:59:57 GMT -5
I still hear BOY all the time on my stations. Time for a new song, I say. Agreed, but I'm still sad it's "Walk Away." I know it'll be huge but I'd of prefered "Addicted" or "Hear Me." Me too... I much prefer "Gone" to this one... and "Addicted"... but oh well... She's lost 2 spins to the Black Eyed Peas over the past week... it's looking like she's going to have a hard time passing them... they went from 196 spins up to 198 spins up on her for the #18 spot with this morning's update... it's looking more and more like this will settle in and peak in the lower rungs of the top 10 as I predicted... which isn't bad at all.
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Post by Kelly on Jan 21, 2006 16:04:55 GMT -5
I much prefer Walkaway to Gone but I love Addicted (2nd fave from album)
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Post by OUcultjam on Jan 21, 2006 16:43:05 GMT -5
John, your ego really gets on my nerves. Does BEP have another song in the top 5? top 10? No. I don't see how you can possibly compare them. When you post in this thread you're always looking at WA's stats without considering any other factors affecting its place on the chart right now.
The song's adds day was just last week and it's in the top 20. It's too early to predict its chart run is almost over. Plus, Kelly's songs have waited WEEKS at #2 or 3 just to end up at #1 for multiple weeks. I'm not saying WA will do that, but get off your frickin' high horse. It's old. We never know what's going to happen with Kelly's songs. Heck, if you would have told me that BOY would stay in the top 5 for 4 months I would have thought you were crazy. But that's exactly what has happened. Now it's holding back WA... for now.
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Post by francky on Jan 21, 2006 17:54:54 GMT -5
This guy doesn't even know what he is talking about Walk Away is a great song, and i prefer this over Gone, i'm glad they picked this as the 5th single
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Post by Wasted on Jan 21, 2006 18:19:35 GMT -5
OT: BTW I love your banner, definitely my favorite song on the album! Thanks, it's mine too!
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Post by 7thfairway on Jan 21, 2006 19:17:24 GMT -5
Stylistically this is the most unique song on the album. The funky bass and R&B sass of Clarksons delievery are meshed with a decidedly rock guitar lick and drum set in the chorus. The keyboards are right out of 60s Motown. Clarkson sings this one in a higher key than any other song on Breakaway and her no nonsense sick of his crap love me or leave me demand for action is endearing, magnetic, and genius.
This is another unique texture of Clarksons skills and there seem to be thousands - she processes the music and the emotion of the lyrics in her heart and her brain tells her vocal chords what is required of them and *hocus pocus* it comes out of her mouth like manna from heaven. Shes the most versatile and gifted vocalist I've ever heard.
I didn't really believe Clarkson was a vocal genius until I heard Breakaway, the song, on the radio. Theres a ton of magic in that song - magic that could not and would not be captured by any other vocalist in Pop music today. Clarkson is special and Walk Away is another delightful example of why. Top 3 at the very minimum.
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Post by OUcultjam on Jan 21, 2006 19:36:40 GMT -5
7th, very nice post!!
Right now, WA's bullet (730) is higher than BEP (719). Hmm... we'll see tomorrow if the lead continues to increase.
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Post by MinusName on Jan 21, 2006 20:29:45 GMT -5
Stylistically this is the most unique song on the album. The funky bass and R&B sass of Clarksons delievery are meshed with a decidedly rock guitar lick and drum set in the chorus. The keyboards are right out of 60s Motown. Clarkson sings this one in a higher key than any other song on Breakaway and her no nonsense sick of his crap love me or leave me demand for action is endearing, magnetic, and genius. This is another unique texture of Clarksons skills and there seem to be thousands - she processes the music and the emotion of the lyrics in her heart and her brain tells her vocal chords what is required of them and *hocus pocus* it comes out of her mouth like manna from heaven. Shes the most versatile and gifted vocalist I've ever heard. I didn't really believe Clarkson was a vocal genius until I heard Breakaway, the song, on the radio. Theres a ton of magic in that song - magic that could not and would not be captured by any other vocalist in Pop music today. Clarkson is special and Walk Away is another delightful example of why. Top 3 at the very minimum. Wow! Are you a professional critic? I wish I could write about a song like that. Back to what OUcultjam said, if you would've told me back in August 2004 that "Breakaway" alone was going to #1 I would've been hugely shocked. If anyone would've told me that Kelly Clarkson was going to have 4 top 2 hits (including the top 2 of 2005) and a 5x platinum album I probably would've called you a fool, but Kelly has proved us all wrong! I think we should just stop worrying about "Walk Away," or at least until "BOY" gets to falling. I agree with what several people have said, anything after now is just bonus, I would've been hugely satisfied with "BOY" being last because she did so well that she didn't even need to prove herself with a fifth single. What Kelly Clarkson has done over the past year in a half is amazing and a very rare occurence, I'm just glad I got to follow all of it, because I wasn't into music back in the 90's when Mariah and Alanis were doing this very same thing that Kelly is doing now.
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Post by Pink Champagne Ricochet on Jan 21, 2006 20:31:43 GMT -5
lol it's pretty funny, we're all talking like the lower half of the top 10 is a worst case scenario almost-dissapointment, when i'd kill for many of my favorite artists to peak there. Just a testament to the power of Kelly! :)
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Post by John77 on Jan 21, 2006 21:40:10 GMT -5
John, your ego really gets on my nerves. Does BEP have another song in the top 5? top 10? No. I don't see how you can possibly compare them. When you post in this thread you're always looking at WA's stats without considering any other factors affecting its place on the chart right now. The song's adds day was just last week and it's in the top 20. It's too early to predict its chart run is almost over. Plus, Kelly's songs have waited WEEKS at #2 or 3 just to end up at #1 for multiple weeks. I'm not saying WA will do that, but get off your frickin' high horse. It's old. We never know what's going to happen with Kelly's songs. Heck, if you would have told me that BOY would stay in the top 5 for 4 months I would have thought you were crazy. But that's exactly what has happened.  Now it's holding back WA... for now. Another day, another defensive response from a Kelly fan... The numbers don't lie. All I'm doing is trying to be objective, but I guess you don't want any objectivity... Kelly can do no wrong in your eyes and that's fine... Be fair, be objective... that's all I ask... I'm simply analyzing the numbers so that you all don't end up so disappointed when this doesn't hit #1, OK? And yes, I have looked at ALL of the factors... some of you weren't even born yet when I started studying the charts, so I know my stuff. As for BOY's amazing success, I'm not at all surprised... it sounded like a mega-hit from the first listen... I've listened to this song over 45 times now... It still sounds VERY ordinary to me and I'm sure many others would agree... I like Kelly a lot... her other 4 songs all went top 5 on my personal chart... this one though does nothing for me... Disagree with me all you want but don't go start making it personal, it only makes you look bad.
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Post by CriminallySmooth on Jan 21, 2006 21:58:55 GMT -5
Do you really need to keep telling us that you think this song is ordinary? I think by now everyone has gotten the point. Gone is not the single, it won't ever be a single, there is no point to keep telling us that it is the supior song. The fact that you don't like this song could possibly be a good thing, Kelly is on her 5th single and she has sold nearly 5 million albums. A song like gone, average pop-rock song, would not inspire new people to buy the cd. Walk Away is a lot different from everything she has released so far and is targeted at new people. I will admit when this song first leaked I wasn't crazy for it either. It sounded too, polished at the time. But once I heard the full version it grew on me and now its THE song that is constantly stuck in my head through out the day. I am aware that this ordinary song may not grow on you being that you have listened to it quite a few times, but you have to realize that not everyone has your specific music taste and constantly pointing out how ordinary this song is, isn't going to change matters.
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Post by clem on Jan 21, 2006 22:11:33 GMT -5
john77, your "objectivity" sounds like subjectivity to us. Yes, you are analyzing chart statistics quite closely, but you are only reporting the information retrieved that undermines the song. I'm pretty sure your analysis yields some merits about "Walk Away", but you just aren't reporting them. I don't believe that all the numbers pertaining to "Walk Away" screams that it's an inferior song.
7thfairway, love your review. Very professional-sounding!
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Post by John77 on Jan 21, 2006 22:20:13 GMT -5
john77, your "objectivity" sounds like subjectivity to us. Yes, you are analyzing chart statistics quite closely, but you are only reporting the information retrieved that undermines the song. I'm pretty sure your analysis yields some merits about "Walk Away", but you just aren't reporting them. I don't believe that all the numbers pertaining to "Walk Away" screams that it's an inferior song. 7thfairway, love your review. Very professional-sounding! Thanks clem... it's just that most of the posts on this thread are so one-sided, that I kind of feel compelled to present the whole picture... even though this past week was the official "add" date for this song, she didn't get a ton of adds, nor has she seen a spin bump... I'm looking for something to support this song going top 5, but I'm not finding it anywhere... Well, I was just doing some comparing to "Because of You" since people were complaining about BEP and other comparisions... and that song was gaining almost 1000 spins a week while BHTE was still firmly in the top 10... people were using the fact that BOY was still high up as the reason this song wasn't gaining faster... yet, BHTE certainly didn't seem to hinder BOY's airplay... Like I said, I'm not trying to undermine things here, but it just seems like truth, reality and objectivity for whatever reason seem to go out the door when people talk about this particular song and frankly I don't know why... I'm not sure why people would complain about a song going top 10, but whatever... If you guys really want to me to find something negative to talk about which may hurt her, it's the whole American Idol/Simon controversy... I wasn't going to bring it up, but I guess I might as well now... while I could care less about it, and it's not going to change my opinion of Kelly, I've seen more than one Kelly fan on other boards be disenfranchised about that whole thing... it will be interesting to see if that hurts this song...
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Post by 7thfairway on Jan 21, 2006 22:28:22 GMT -5
I'll make you a bet John77. If Walk Away doesn't go top 3 I'll stop posting here for a month - if it does you stop posting for a month. How about putting up or shutting up?
John77, dude, your Carrielove is fine but does every post you make have to be soaked in it? I like Carrie - a lot - but the competitive agenda you obviously need to push renders your opinion anything but objective. I guess you percieve Kelly Clarkson as Carries ultimate competition which is soooooo not. Carries own advice to herself when questoned about it was to never let herself get swamped under Kelly Clarksons success with direct comparisons. She gets it - do you?
eta - your above post is so misleading its not funny. Clarksons coming off one of the most successful pop radio play years of all time - NOTHING you're spouting is objective.
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Post by sleepy time on Jan 21, 2006 22:30:32 GMT -5
You're incredibly irritating.
The fact that you constantly profess that you're telling the truth and that you're objective only makes you seem more one-sided and annoying.
Funny that many people on here, who chances are have more experience with these things than you do, can find information showing the strength and probable great success of this song.
Yet your "objective, truthful and real" analysis only yields the same, constant, negative results.
If a modicum of reality (which I would consider representing both the good and the bad) were infused into anything you said, I wouldn't be writing this. But the fact that you seem to rehash the same points over and over and over again make it fairly obvious that you're not a fan of the song and you're looking for it to fail.
And that's fine. But you don't have to be an obnoxious little crap about it. Think it all you want and even post it a few times, but stop with the constant barrage of boring "this song doesn't sound as good as..." and "this isn't going to do much" nonsense. It's boring.
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Post by PerPlexied on Jan 21, 2006 23:00:35 GMT -5
It is a 5th single! Was it the best choice? Who knows. Was it Kelly's choice as an artist? Yes...and frankly that is all that matters.
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Post by octoberdana on Jan 21, 2006 23:31:37 GMT -5
I didn't really like this song that much originally. But once I heard it was Kelly's new single I listened to it again and now I can't stop! It's really a very solid, catchy song and it should make top 3 easily.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jan 21, 2006 23:44:28 GMT -5
"But the fact that you seem to rehash the same points over and over and over again make it fairly obvious that you're not a fan of the song and you're looking for it to fail.
And that's fine. But you don't have to be an obnoxious little crap about it. Think it all you want and even post it a few times, but stop with the constant barrage of boring "this song doesn't sound as good as..." and "this isn't going to do much" nonsense. It's boring. "
Agreed. Dude, we already know you hate the song. We already know you wanted another single. We already know that you think it will flop massively. You seem to make several posts a day about it. Fine. Walk Away sucks. Its a flop. Kelly's career is waning. Any other single would have been perfect. You have convinced us.
**walks off jamming to Walk Away**
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jan 21, 2006 23:46:00 GMT -5
Oh, and yes, its a fifth single with 4 other songs getting substantial play. Top 10 is more than I expected. How many other fifth singles go top 10? Name them-Gwen? Christina's missed. Who has even released five singles recently? Usher? With his nearly diamond album that made him a superstar? Kelly isnt in bad company if Walk Away -just- hits top 10.
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Post by GiggaWho on Jan 22, 2006 0:11:19 GMT -5
Everybody's opinion on the issue of how well the song is doing/will do is subjective, let's remember that. Please don't try to bully the other posters into agreeing with your opinion, no matter which side of the fence you're on. Respect each other's opinions. That means don't personally insult other posters. That includes everything from the obvious telling people they're irritating or that they get on your nerves to telling them they're being defensive, crazy fans. Thanks.
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Post by Krypton46 on Jan 22, 2006 0:39:18 GMT -5
Thanks clem... it's just that most of the posts on this thread are so one-sided, that I kind of feel compelled to present the whole picture... I don't agree that most of the comments regarding the song are one-sided. I've read posts from others in this thread saying that "Gone" or "Addicted" should have been the single instead of WA or that WA doesn't measure up to Kelly's previous singles from Breakaway, etc. Most of what I've read from people here have predicted that WA will be a top ten hit or a top five hit and looking at Kelly's track record with this album, it's hard to argue otherwise so I don't see that as being "one-sided." Heck I've even read comments here and there saying that a top ten showing would be a bonus. There's nothing wrong with being enthusiastic and giddy about its day-to-day chart performance either considering how well this is doing so far for a 4th/5th single. If you want to say that others are being "one-sided" and aren't looking at the big picture regarding this song, I could make that argument about you as well. She already started getting a ton of pre-impact adds, some before this year even began. By the time it went for adds this past week, most stations already had jumped on the song (probably 75% of the panel at least) and were playing it, so of course she wasn't going to be in the top five for adds this week or anything, which is a GOOD thing in her case.
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Post by sunpeach on Jan 22, 2006 0:58:24 GMT -5
While I prefer "Gone" as the single, I am convinced that "Hear Me" would be an absolute disaster as a single. It's a good album cut, but it's nowhere near "single" material.
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Post by wunderkind on Jan 22, 2006 1:39:05 GMT -5
I think there's a fine line between catchy and quality, when it comes to pop music. This song is only on the "catchy" side in my opinion.
This is her second Breakaway single that I dislike (couldn't stand "Since U Been Gone"). It seems like they've ran out of good songs to put out to radio - which isn't true, but this song is nothing more than album filler.
I'm dissapointed with this release, mainly because it WILL be a hit and it's not that good.
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Post by MinusName on Jan 22, 2006 12:34:11 GMT -5
The bullet is back on the rise!
24 19 KELLY CLARKSON Walk Away 3213 2445 +768 24.564
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Post by OUcultjam on Jan 22, 2006 12:45:11 GMT -5
^ yep! and look it's bigger than BEP's. ;) Looks like it will hit #18 tomorrow...
22 17 BLACK EYED PEAS Pump It 2005 A&M/Interscope 3444 2706 738 26.936 14 18 BLACK EYED PEAS My Humps 2005 A&M/Interscope 3300 3539 -239 23.884 24 19 KELLY CLARKSON Walk Away 2004 RCA/RMG 3213 2445 768 24.564 18 20 D4L Laffy Taffy 2005 Asylum/Atlantic 2668 3139 -471 12.931
JUMP Chart NE-YO So Sick +1133 133 NELLY Grillz (f/Paul Wall, Ali&Gipp) +946 127 KELLY CLARKSON Walk Away +866 130 BEYONCE Check On It f/Slim Thug +851 135 BLACK EYED PEAS Pump It +817 131
And once the news about her upcoming performance at the Grammys hits the airwaves I'm guessing she'll get some more spins.
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Post by MusicJunkie on Jan 22, 2006 14:02:49 GMT -5
Watch its bullet increase to 1000+ soon. ;)
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jan 22, 2006 15:04:02 GMT -5
Great to see its bullet not dropping and hopefully she will remain with a solid bullet until she at least hits top 10!
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