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Post by babyboylrtm on Feb 13, 2006 15:16:08 GMT -5
The video is taking forever
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Post by Jeff on Feb 13, 2006 15:24:39 GMT -5
The video was shot from Jan 31st - Feb 2nd... it's Feb 13th? should be out by Feb 25th.. not that long.. lol
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Post by Mariam on Feb 13, 2006 16:11:19 GMT -5
They are always late with her videos--but I guess it hasnt hurt before. We'll see this time.
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Post by clem on Feb 13, 2006 19:37:14 GMT -5
Didn't this happen when BTHE and SUBG were in the top 10 together (or was it SUBG and Breakaway?). That is, the two songs were top 10, and the newer song slowed down, but once the older song left the top 10 and dropped to recurrent, the newer one took off in spins. I think I remember that happening.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 13, 2006 23:18:35 GMT -5
I believe all of her songs had a "slowing down" period before powering up. Probably not as big as Walk Away's, but remembering that its a fifth single...thats just fine. I would expect the slow down to be a little more.
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Post by Filthy Pop on Feb 14, 2006 19:50:03 GMT -5
Too bad we won't have a 6th single.
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Post by britrocks16 on Feb 14, 2006 19:53:32 GMT -5
^How do you know?
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Post by Krypton46 on Feb 14, 2006 20:00:35 GMT -5
An MTV article said this would be the last official single from Breakaway.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 14, 2006 20:50:43 GMT -5
Plus they would be really, really, really dumb to release a 6th single when a new single is due by...well, lets say she releases late November, thats a late September single. Not that far away really.
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Post by top40dj on Feb 15, 2006 1:59:08 GMT -5
Plus they would be really, really, really dumb to release a 6th single when a new single is due by...well, lets say she releases late November, thats a late September single. Not that far away really. Y'all said that with Gwen... 6 singles later she's top 20 with "Crash"
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Post by John77 on Feb 15, 2006 2:29:14 GMT -5
Plus they would be really, really, really dumb to release a 6th single when a new single is due by...well, lets say she releases late November, thats a late September single. Not that far away really. Y'all said that with Gwen... 6 singles later she's top 20 with "Crash" Did "Crash" go top 20 when the official chart posted Sunday night??? It's at 22 now (same position as a week ago)... call-out scores are apparently low, and according to Gigga, that one isn't top 15 call-out in any demo...
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Post by Focus on Feb 15, 2006 9:29:18 GMT -5
lw TW Artist Title TW lw Move 1 1 BEYONCE Check On It f/Slim ... 2005 Sony Urban/Columbia 9057 9175 -118 68.680 3 2 NE-YO So Sick 2005 Def Jam/IDJMG 7712 7508 204 59.361 2 3 PUSSYCAT DOLLS Stickwitu 2005 A&M 6980 7544 -564 50.307 4 4 CHRIS BROWN Run It 2005 Jive/Zomba Label Grp 6480 7208 -728 41.230 5 5 ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS Dirty Little Secret 2005 Interscope 6414 6486 -72 47.339 6 6 FALL OUT BOY Dance, Dance 2005 Island/IDJMG 6030 5921 109 40.867 7 7 NELLY Grillz (f/Paul Wall,... 2005 Derrrty/Universal 5706 5613 93 36.166 9 8 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD Unwritten 2005 Epic 5292 4936 356 35.750 10 9 KELLY CLARKSON Walk Away 2004 RCA/RMG 5045 4681 364 35.594 8 10 KELLY CLARKSON Because Of You 2004 RCA/RMG 4911 5580 -669 38.594 "Walkaway" moved up to #9 and has overtaken "Unwritten" bullet again. :)
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Post by Filthy Pop on Feb 15, 2006 9:34:03 GMT -5
Y'all said that with Gwen... 6 singles later she's top 20 with "Crash" Did "Crash" go top 20 when the official chart posted Sunday night??? It's at 22 now (same position as a week ago)... call-out scores are apparently low, and according to Gigga, that one isn't top 15 call-out in any demo... Yeah but Gwen isn't planning on releasing an album after Crash, Kelly is planning on it after Walk Away. And Crash might as well be Top 20, it will be in the next update more then likely.
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Post by Pink Champagne Ricochet on Feb 15, 2006 11:32:51 GMT -5
Another album this year...has the girl ever heard of overexposure?? She needs to go away for awhile after this single so radio doesn't get sick of her. If she doesn't wait long enough it'll be like a lot of singers that have had one smash album with multiple hits that are suddenly persona non grata on radio once their next album drops (see Pink). Yes, it was about the same length of time between Thankful and Breakaway, but all the singles from that album after "Miss Independent" underperformed, and she wasn't really anywhere for awhile until "Breakaway' because of the whole Clear Channel touring mess.
and the whole thing w/ radio is that they generally don't like to jump on the new songs. If she releases a new CD this year, why play the brand new single that might not be as immediately radio friendly (especially if RCA lets her take the risks she plans on in the MTV article) when we can play one of her older songs instead?? she'd have six songs on the radio at one time in certain capacities (recurrents, etc.) Knowing Kelly's longevity, "Walk Away" won't die until summer starts. I don't think that's enough time for a release this year.
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Post by Slinky on Feb 15, 2006 12:13:35 GMT -5
and the whole thing w/ radio is that they generally don't like to jump on the new songs. If she releases a new CD this year, why play the brand new single that might not be as immediately radio friendly (especially if RCA lets her take the risks she plans on in the MTV article) when we can play one of her older songs instead?? she'd have six songs on the radio at one time in certain capacities (recurrents, etc.) The not wanting to jump on new songs doesn't hold for superstars, which at this point is a title Kelly has definitely claimed. Think of what has happened with the past few Eminem albums. Did "Lose Yourself" suffer because Eminem was still on the Eminem Show era? Of course not. Overexposure only really comes into play on the later singles, which could result in lower album sales overall, so it would still be a bad thing. But if a new Kelly single from a new album came out today, stations would be jumping all over themselves to "world premiere" it and spin it 5 times a day.
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Post by Focus on Feb 15, 2006 12:16:12 GMT -5
Was there ever really a Clear Channel touring mess, or was that just an EXCUSE made up by Aiken's fanbase to explain away Aiken's poor radio results. I've heard the same yada, yada, over and over again, with the reasoning that Kelly's TTWLI was virtually taken off the air around the Tour time. The reason TTWLI didn't perform as well as the other two singles that were released from Thankful, was not because of the Tour going with promoter's other than CC, the reason it didn't perform as well is because it was only released to Pop radio and it isn't a Pop radio song, it's a Hot AC and AC song. I don't believe for one second that the Tour ruined Kelly's chances with that song and I don't believe for one second that Aiken's radio under-performance was due to the Tour either. Aiken's songs didn't make it because they were just too old fashioned for current radio listener tastes.
Anyway, back on the topic of "Walk Away". I'm thrilled to see that this song is really moving up on the Hot AC chart at a nice pace as well. It's no. 7 on the Hot AC Jump chart with a bullet of +119.
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Post by GiggaWho on Feb 15, 2006 12:46:57 GMT -5
Let's keep the discussion to Walk Away in here.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 15, 2006 13:16:49 GMT -5
Plus they would be really, really, really dumb to release a 6th single when a new single is due by...well, lets say she releases late November, thats a late September single. Not that far away really. Y'all said that with Gwen... 6 singles later she's top 20 with "Crash" You do know that Gwen cancelled her second album and wont be doing anything else this year (extensively), right? I guarantee thats the only reason she is releasing a 6th single. Kelly is preparing to release a new album and SOON. As in a few months we will hear a new single. If she is so dumb as to release another single after Walk Away right before her new single comes out, she deserves to flop.
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Post by Pink Champagne Ricochet on Feb 15, 2006 14:23:38 GMT -5
hey, how bout that "Walk Away"? huge hit, ain't it?
I hope it's allowed to reach its full potential and not fast until it's ready as opposed to being ushered out by a new album. it's one of my fav songs on the CD :)
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Post by OUcultjam on Feb 15, 2006 14:39:21 GMT -5
I think it's taking a slow climb because of the video lagging behind. Radio knows there's still a lot of time left and they don't want people to be sick of it before the video even comes out. But we'll see...
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Post by JayBoozer on Feb 15, 2006 14:40:00 GMT -5
Another album this year...has the girl ever heard of overexposure?? She needs to go away for awhile after this single so radio doesn't get sick of her. If she doesn't wait long enough it'll be like a lot of singers that have had one smash album with multiple hits that are suddenly persona non grata on radio once their next album drops (see Pink). Yes, it was about the same length of time between Thankful and Breakaway, but all the singles from that album after "Miss Independent" underperformed, and she wasn't really anywhere for awhile until "Breakaway' because of the whole Clear Channel touring mess. and the whole thing w/ radio is that they generally don't like to jump on the new songs. If she releases a new CD this year, why play the brand new single that might not be as immediately radio friendly (especially if RCA lets her take the risks she plans on in the MTV article) when we can play one of her older songs instead?? she'd have six songs on the radio at one time in certain capacities (recurrents, etc.) Knowing Kelly's longevity, "Walk Away" won't die until summer starts. I don't think that's enough time for a release this year. Kelly's success actually reminds me a lot of Pink's. Pink's first album only had two hits, like Kelly's. And her 2nd album had 4 top 10 singles, 2 or 3 of them going #1 (I can't remember exactly). Singles from Pink's 3rd album flopped... Hoepfull Kelly doesn't see the same fate.
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Post by OUcultjam on Feb 15, 2006 14:46:19 GMT -5
you know, there's still 9-10 months until we MIGHT see a new album. I really don't want to hear all of this griping for that long. Can we just finish out this album (i.e. "Walk Away," the actual topic of this thread) then see what happens?
Thank you!
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 15, 2006 14:50:39 GMT -5
In the Walk Away topic, yes, but in the album topic I would leave if you dont want to hear the "griping" ;)
Anyways, good god we need the video. The song has already performed adequately to me (matching or passing most 5th single efforts) so I really just want the video to see it-especially since Kelly said its different and funny.
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Post by Jeff on Feb 15, 2006 15:37:33 GMT -5
It's funny that Pink is the only artsit ya'll can come up with. But ya'll forget Mariah Carey, Janet Jackson, Eminem, people who have had tremendous success with back to back albums. No one here is a psycic(SP lol) lets all just enjoy the album while it last. Plus many people like me are ready for new music. She hasn't even started recording yet, nor touring for that matter, and ya'll are acting liek the album is coming out next week.
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Post by Krypton46 on Feb 15, 2006 18:45:00 GMT -5
lw TW Artist Title TW lw Move 1 1 BEYONCE Check On It f/Slim ... 2005 Sony Urban/Columbia 9057 9175 -118 68.680 3 2 NE-YO So Sick 2005 Def Jam/IDJMG 7712 7508 204 59.361 2 3 PUSSYCAT DOLLS Stickwitu 2005 A&M 6980 7544 -564 50.307 4 4 CHRIS BROWN Run It 2005 Jive/Zomba Label Grp 6480 7208 -728 41.230 5 5 ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS Dirty Little Secret 2005 Interscope 6414 6486 -72 47.339 6 6 FALL OUT BOY Dance, Dance 2005 Island/IDJMG 6030 5921 109 40.867 7 7 NELLY Grillz (f/Paul Wall,... 2005 Derrrty/Universal 5706 5613 93 36.166 9 8 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD Unwritten 2005 Epic 5292 4936 356 35.750 10 9 KELLY CLARKSON Walk Away 2004 RCA/RMG 5045 4681 364 35.594 8 10 KELLY CLARKSON Because Of You 2004 RCA/RMG 4911 5580 -669 38.594 "Walkaway" moved up to #9 and has overtaken "Unwritten" bullet again. :) I'm looking forward to hearing john's commentary and seeing what kind of spin he puts on this, that is if he has anything to say at all. ;)
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Post by Pink Champagne Ricochet on Feb 15, 2006 18:59:50 GMT -5
i'm not John, but this is pretty expected to me. i'm NOT happy her bullet is higher than "Unwritten" now (as much as I love Kelly), but it's just like pop radio to jump on the established artists instead of giving a chance to someone new.
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Post by Focus on Feb 15, 2006 20:18:33 GMT -5
"Unwritten" is a great song but "Walk Away" is so much better. It's a much more fun song to listen to and that's why radio is finally giving it more spins, since they are finally letting go of "Because of You".
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Post by JayBoozer on Feb 15, 2006 20:31:44 GMT -5
It's funny that Pink is the only artsit ya'll can come up with. But ya'll forget Mariah Carey, Janet Jackson, Eminem, people who have had tremendous success with back to back albums. No one here is a psycic(SP lol) lets all just enjoy the album while it last. Plus many people like me are ready for new music. She hasn't even started recording yet, nor touring for that matter, and ya'll are acting liek the album is coming out next week. How many artists have done much better with their 2nd album and flopped with their 3rd in the last 8-10 years? Yeah. Didn't think so.
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Post by MusicJunkie on Feb 15, 2006 20:51:03 GMT -5
i'm not John, but this is pretty expected to me. i'm NOT happy her bullet is higher than "Unwritten" now (as much as I love Kelly), but it's just like pop radio to jump on the established artists instead of giving a chance to someone new. I told you guys. If you go to the "so many potential #1s" thread, I predicted this exactly right. Both Kelly and Natasha are close in spins and radio is definitely gonna choose Kelly to go higher. ;)
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Post by Filthy Pop on Feb 16, 2006 10:00:00 GMT -5
9 8 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD Unwritten 5319 5037 282 35.659 10 9 KELLY CLARKSON Walk Away 5125 4714 411 36.023 8 10 KELLY CLARKSON Because Of You 4806 5455 -649 38.141
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