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Post by Chato on Mar 26, 2006 8:37:06 GMT -5
I think they should release Gone next , it's already on some huge stations and has been on billboards Pop100 airplay chart for the last couple of weeks. Regardless of how well Gone would do , I don't think Walk Away should be the last single.
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Post by Ragin on Mar 26, 2006 8:45:53 GMT -5
I guess if I were going to release anything more (which I would simply because the album is still selling really well) I'd release Addicted. Kelly said it was her favorite, and it helps cement some more rock credibility. That's what I'd do anyway.
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Post by COW COW COW COW COW COW COW on Mar 26, 2006 11:31:48 GMT -5
This song is done after this week, whatever it is will be its peak...
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Post by babyboylrtm on Mar 26, 2006 11:36:48 GMT -5
I've seen the video like 5 times already on VH1... since yesterday!
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Post by Pulse on Mar 26, 2006 11:40:36 GMT -5
This song is done after this week, whatever it is will be its peak... Its probably going to #11 which would look so bad. It would have been better if the song had flopped completely then to just miss The Top 10.
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Post by Pink Champagne Ricochet on Mar 26, 2006 11:53:21 GMT -5
This song is done after this week, whatever it is will be its peak... Its probably going to #11 which would look so bad. It would have been better if the song had flopped completely then to just miss The Top 10. I don't get that. #11 isn't too bad. I agree that this week will be its peak...they sent all the remixes out to the download services, which will probably be its last gasp for some boost because the album version isn't selling quite as well for obvious reasons (i.e. 5 million people already have the CD).
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Post by Pulse on Mar 26, 2006 12:06:54 GMT -5
Well, #11 on its own isnt that bad. But it would suck because it would break Kelly's Top 10 streak. Plus it would be bad to be so close to making the cut, yet not making it (Just like it would have been better for Mariah Carey's Shake It Off to just be Top 10 than instead of spending weeks at #2)
I wonder how much the remixes will add. How much did the BTHE, SUBG, and BOY remixes add the week they came out? The Walk Away Digital Maxi also has another album version of Walk Away charting. But its listed under Dance though, but it also doesnt seem to be on the iTunes 100
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Post by zain20 on Mar 26, 2006 12:39:56 GMT -5
The song sucks. I'm surprised it cracked the top 5.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Mar 26, 2006 15:42:18 GMT -5
Uh, I would rather have a song peak at #11 than not peak anywhere at all.
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Post by Krypton46 on Mar 27, 2006 1:31:13 GMT -5
Its probably going to #11 which would look so bad. It would have been better if the song had flopped completely then to just miss The Top 10. Huh? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
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Post by Pulse on Mar 27, 2006 2:01:42 GMT -5
Um, how doesn that not make sense? Maybe no one here is a Mariah fan so they dont get the example with SIO LOL. Wouldnt you rather be far off from a benchmark than to barely miss it? That's why they always talk about how Bronze medalists are happier than silver medalists, because Bronze medalists feel like they at least got something, while Silver medalists are more upset because than they think about how close they were to a gold.
If Kelly peaks at #12-20, it'll still be a Top 20 no matter what. If she peaks at #11 though, it will be like she just missed The Top 10.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Mar 27, 2006 2:17:35 GMT -5
So if you were a musical artist you would rather have a song peak at #99 instead of #11?
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Post by Pulse on Mar 27, 2006 2:34:40 GMT -5
Where's your logic in that? #99 has nothing to do with #11 LMAO
No, if it was going to go Top 20, I wouldnt care if it was #12-20, cause you get the same result, a Top 20 single. But being #11 would suck, because it was so close.
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Post by Krypton46 on Mar 27, 2006 2:37:50 GMT -5
Um, how doesn that not make sense? Maybe no one here is a Mariah fan so they dont get the example with SIO LOL. Wouldnt you rather be far off from a benchmark than to barely miss it? That's why they always talk about how Bronze medalists are happier than silver medalists, because Bronze medalists feel like they at least got something, while Silver medalists are more upset because than they think about how close they were to a gold. If Kelly peaks at #12-20, it'll still be a Top 20 no matter what. If she peaks at #11 though, it will be like she just missed The Top 10. You realize that WA not charting at all would also end her streak of top 10 hits, don't you? It also would end her streak of having a song chart in the first place. Hvaing a bunch of top 10 hits and then having the following single not chart doesn't look good no matter how you slice it. I'd much rather have a #11 peak (or whatever) than to not chart at all, and I'm sure every artist out there would agree with me 100% on that. No, a #11 peak doesn't look spectacular next to a group of top 10 hits (or even a #5 peak next to a group of #1 and #2 hits) but not charting at all would be much worse and disastrous. As for SIO, as much as I love Mariah, a #2 peak was much better than that song deserved but that's not the point. She's never had a song peak in the 6-10 range on the hot 100 so I'm sure she'll take her #2 peak thank you very much.
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Post by Pulse on Mar 27, 2006 2:44:03 GMT -5
Um, how doesn that not make sense? Maybe no one here is a Mariah fan so they dont get the example with SIO LOL. Wouldnt you rather be far off from a benchmark than to barely miss it? That's why they always talk about how Bronze medalists are happier than silver medalists, because Bronze medalists feel like they at least got something, while Silver medalists are more upset because than they think about how close they were to a gold. If Kelly peaks at #12-20, it'll still be a Top 20 no matter what. If she peaks at #11 though, it will be like she just missed The Top 10. You realize that WA not charting at all would also end her streak of top 10 hits, don't you? It also would end her streak of having a song chart in the first place. Hvaing a bunch of top 10 hits and then having the following single not chart doesn't look good no matter how you slice it. I'd much rather have a #11 peak (or whatever) than to not chart at all, and I'm sure every artist out there would agree with me 100% on that. No, a #11 peak doesn't look spectacular next to a group of top 10 hits (or even a #5 peak next to a group of #1 and #2 hits) but not charting at all would be much worse and disastrous. As for SIO, as much as I love Mariah, a #2 peak was much better than that song deserved but that's not the point. She's never had a song peak in the 6-10 range on the hot 100 so I'm sure she'll take her #2 peak thank you very much. When did I say the single shouldnt chart at all? And if it does really badly it could bubble under and techincally those would dont count so her streak would be preserved ;) I think you got Mariah wrong on that. This is a woman who celebrates her #1s with huge parties. She even wrote a "17" in the background of the DFAU video before it hit #1 And theyve been a big selling point of her career. She even had a full album of true #1s. I think she was definitely not pleased with it peaking at #2.
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Post by Krypton46 on Mar 27, 2006 3:16:55 GMT -5
When did I say the single shouldnt chart at all? And if it does really badly it could bubble under and techincally those would dont count so her streak would be preserved ;) I think you got Mariah wrong on that. This is a woman who celebrates her #1s with huge parties. She even wrote a "17" in the background of the DFAU video before it hit #1 And theyve been a big selling point of her career. She even had a full album of true #1s. I think she was definitely not pleased with it peaking at #2. You said "flop completely", same difference same result anyway. And why wouldn't it count if it hadn't charted? WA is a single, therefore it would end the streak had it bombed. And after all the success she's had during this era, "flopping completely" would be quite the understatement. As for the "17" in the DFAU video, you lost me there. Yeah, I know she loves to have #1s (who doesn't? LOL) and she was probably dissapointed that SIO didn't go #1 but I don't think she'd be any more pleased with something worse than #2 since it came off of WBT. She'll take a #2 over a #7 or a #88 any day of the week, like any artist would. That's all I'm gonna say about that, afterall this is a Kelly Clarkson thread.
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Post by Pulse on Mar 27, 2006 8:49:42 GMT -5
Well, I didnt mean that much when I said "flopping completely" ;) And if didnt chart, it wouldnt count technically in her streak because they would act like it didnt exist. The same thing happened to Whitney Houston's infamous streak of #1 singles. She actually had one in between her streak that didnt chart, but they dont count it, because since it didnt chart, in essence it never existed to them.
Apparently, Mariah wrote a "17" in the background of the DFAU video, sort of as a good luck or something for it to become her 17th #1. The #2 is probably better than a #88, but Im sure it really does hurt in this case (especially since it was supposed to replace WBT, there was this big deal made about how Mariah was the first female artist to have a #1 and a #2 at the same time......then Gold Digger jumped out of nowhere! >:( >:( )
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Post by Mike on Mar 27, 2006 10:20:28 GMT -5
The bullet went from -72 to -9 today!
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Post by Robert J on Mar 27, 2006 10:42:38 GMT -5
WTF
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Post by Mike on Mar 27, 2006 10:43:34 GMT -5
I guess check #2 has cleared!
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Mar 27, 2006 11:35:00 GMT -5
Anyways, wonder if this will get a bullet back haha.
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Post by Lee on Mar 27, 2006 14:50:54 GMT -5
everyone keeps talking about how this missed the top 10 on the Hot 100, but Kelly is a POP artist and this went Top 5 at the format, that is good
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Post by Krypton46 on Mar 28, 2006 0:49:42 GMT -5
Well, I didnt mean that much when I said "flopping completely" ;) And if didnt chart, it wouldnt count technically in her streak because they would act like it didnt exist. The same thing happened to Whitney Houston's infamous streak of #1 singles. She actually had one in between her streak that didnt chart, but they dont count it, because since it didnt chart, in essence it never existed to them. Then you shouldn't have said it lol. Whitney's "streak" of #1s doesn't even compare to having a few singles in a row making the top ten anyhow. She may have had seven consecutive number one hits but technically she didn't have seven consecutive number one singles no matter what "they" say. That's like saying so and so is the best selling artist ever, it's all debateable and not necessarily "true." But anyhow all of that is insignificant. The bottom line is that no one in their right mind would rather flop than just miss making the top ten which is the issue at hand here. That's just crazy.
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Post by Mike on Mar 29, 2006 9:15:40 GMT -5
Look at the sales jump!
20 12 CLARKSON*KELLY WALK AWAY 32421 29 25110 204079
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Post by Pulse on Mar 29, 2006 9:25:10 GMT -5
Well, I didnt mean that much when I said "flopping completely" ;) And if didnt chart, it wouldnt count technically in her streak because they would act like it didnt exist. The same thing happened to Whitney Houston's infamous streak of #1 singles. She actually had one in between her streak that didnt chart, but they dont count it, because since it didnt chart, in essence it never existed to them. Then you shouldn't have said it lol. Whitney's "streak" of #1s doesn't even compare to having a few singles in a row making the top ten anyhow. She may have had seven consecutive number one hits but technically she didn't have seven consecutive number one singles no matter what "they" say. That's like saying so and so is the best selling artist ever, it's all debateable and not necessarily "true." But anyhow all of that is insignificant. The bottom line is that no one in their right mind would rather flop than just miss making the top ten which is the issue at hand here. That's just crazy. You may think that, but no one breaks it down like that ;) When you look up anything about Whitney's streak, its always singles. No one is like "NO!!!!!! It's 7 consecutive hits, not 7 consecutive singles!" LOL LMAO @ you completely missing my point and overanalyzing what I said. It ain't that deep, but I'm glad you think it is :). My point was that I'd rather have her miss the Top 10 by a somewhat big margin than miss it one spot.
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Post by Krypton46 on Mar 29, 2006 9:35:40 GMT -5
You may think that, but no one breaks it down like that ;) When you look up anything about Whitney's streak, its always singles. No one is like "NO!!!!!! It's 7 consecutive hits, not 7 consecutive singles!" LOL LOL @ you bringing this up again 3 days later. I never said that it was ever broken down like that, just emphasizing the difference that one word can make, not that it really matters at this point, it's been nearly 20 years since she did what she did. No, I didn't miss your point. I read it loud and clear and ICDM and I know I'm not alone there. ;)
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Post by Pulse on Mar 29, 2006 9:44:00 GMT -5
You may think that, but no one breaks it down like that ;) When you look up anything about Whitney's streak, its always singles. No one is like "NO!!!!!! It's 7 consecutive hits, not 7 consecutive singles!" LOL LOL @ you bringing this up again 3 days later. I never said that it was ever broken down like that, just emphasizing the difference that one word can make, not that it really matters at this point, it's been nearly 20 years since she did what she did. No, I didn't miss your point. I read it loud and clear and ICDM and I know I'm not alone there. ;) Actually, I didnt even see that last reply until today. Had no idea you were so anxious to get the last word here ;) You read it loud and clear? Can I suggest getting some glasses or contacts? :) Cause I've already explained what I meant like two times already, but it looks like it went over your head! LMAO
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Post by Krypton46 on Mar 29, 2006 9:53:21 GMT -5
Had no idea you were so anxious to get the last word here ;) You would know a little something about that, no? You should take your own advice on that one.
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Post by Krypton46 on Mar 29, 2006 9:54:57 GMT -5
#12 on iTunes. It's hanging in there, hopefully it will enough legs to make the top 10.
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Post by Pulse on Mar 29, 2006 9:59:18 GMT -5
Had no idea you were so anxious to get the last word here ;) You would know a little something about that, no? You should take your own advice on that one. Well, I guess it does go both ways for whoever is the last to reply Oh, no, my eyes are fine! They see someone who seems to be somewhat obsessed with nitpicking words even after the meaning behind the words has already been explained at least twice ;)
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