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Post by thedoctorluke on Jun 6, 2006 9:10:37 GMT -5
Top 5 for rest of world. Looking not so good here in America.
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Post by CriminallySmooth on Jun 6, 2006 9:54:28 GMT -5
How come she isn't promoting the song like at all in the states? Her upcoming promo is The Today Show, The Early Show and Letterman all of which isn't happening for another month.
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Post by PaulMCsky on Jun 6, 2006 9:59:30 GMT -5
i KNOW!! like this song is bombing and she's not doing anything about it.
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Post by MizzMuzic34 on Jun 6, 2006 10:32:18 GMT -5
I'm guessing she's getting ready for the tour now. It's just all around bad planning.
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Post by MizzMuzic34 on Jun 6, 2006 10:35:17 GMT -5
Her upcoming promo is The Today Show, The Early Show and Letterman all of which isn't happening for another month. When's she going to be on the Early Show?
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Post by CriminallySmooth on Jun 6, 2006 10:46:32 GMT -5
July 12th
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Post by polly on Jun 6, 2006 11:26:41 GMT -5
doctor luke, mate this is amazing song, congrats on it. Just becuase it's bombing in the US doesn't mean it's a bad song. Far out I ST ILL get chills down my spine when she sings the final chorus. WOW! I'm now looking at the rest of the world and seeing it's per formence there. Screw the US for now. I hope her tour helps there!
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Post by Felicia on Jun 6, 2006 11:43:32 GMT -5
I've no idea why US is dropping her so suddenly. They missed out on such a great song, but picks up crap like 'Ms. New Booty'. I'm glad Europe and the rest of the world isn't abandoning her. Nelly Furtado, Robbie Williams & Anastacia, even Westlife had proved that they don't need the US to be successful.
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Post by polly on Jun 6, 2006 12:09:59 GMT -5
Exactly. I hope she can have commercial success again in the US but is she sells well WW, then I'll be happy! It looks as though that's happening!
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Post by MinusName on Jun 6, 2006 12:31:37 GMT -5
I really like this song! I wish I had heard it sooner.
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Post by MusicJunkie on Jun 6, 2006 15:22:40 GMT -5
I've no idea why US is dropping her so suddenly. They missed out on such a great song, but picks up crap like 'Ms. New Booty'. Only the people at radio themselves will understand that.
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Post by Rumors on Jun 6, 2006 18:33:14 GMT -5
To be fair to US radio, their are crappy successful artists in every country not just the US. This song must be getting some pretty awful call-outs or fans are not requesting this song. It's a very nice song and Pink's vocals are pretty good on it. The video can't be helping the song as its just an average video at best.
I know this has been stated before but I just think Pink has an image/marketing problem in the US. She's getting too old to have a lot of teenage fans and I'm not sure she has crossed over that well into the 20-30s crowd that should be buying her albums. Unlike Kelly Clarkson, Pink really didn't become a HotAC artist with her last album. She isn't a core HotAC artist and if she isn't releasing songs that appeal to the pop radio listener, then she has a problem. With that said, this song might fair better on HotAC than pop, if they release it to that format.
Edit - I still don't think Pink is appealing to the kids even thought female artists you are significantly older than her have had success with the younger generation. Gwen and Mariah come to mind here but they are more the exception than the rule.
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Post by polly on Jun 6, 2006 21:04:58 GMT -5
I agree with some of what you said but not the old part. She's only 26. Those same girls lok up to J-Lo, Gwen, Missey Elliot, and a whole swag of other artists. I doubt age has anything to do with it.
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Post by bubblepop15 on Jun 6, 2006 21:52:08 GMT -5
I love this song.
Seeing that I will probably never hear it on the radio, I kind of want to buy the album now.
I don't like buying albums because I play out the good songs which later becomes singles and I hate hearing them after I play them out.
Hmmm....
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Post by polly on Jun 6, 2006 22:00:13 GMT -5
No seriously buy it, you won't regret it. Trust me!
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Post by muscleclub on Jun 6, 2006 22:02:13 GMT -5
No seriously buy it, you won't regret it. Trust me!
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Post by msanoja on Jun 6, 2006 22:25:26 GMT -5
You'll love the album.
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Post by thedoctorluke on Jun 7, 2006 1:58:18 GMT -5
"This song must be getting some pretty awful call-outs or fans are not requesting this song"
^^^^This is wrong! The song isn't even getting played enough to get call-outs or request, and when it is, it's overnights (when nobody is listening) anyway. US Radio is saying "NO" to this song or more likely to Pink.
IMO, SG was Pink's 3rd and final strike for US Radio. I always knew this and told Jive but they didn't listen. Jive bent to pressure from Pink and her management neither of whom I think know anything about TODAYS market in the USA. The other artist her "genius" manager work with are Sade so basically they are completely out of touch.
I'm sad about this but ultimately THEY dug their own grave. I have personally seen mistake after mistake being made.
If Pink cares about the US, why hasn't she done a Radio Promo tour for "Who Knew"??? I actually am starting to think they don't really care and are content with just the ROW. It sucks cuz she is a great artist.
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Post by muscleclub on Jun 7, 2006 2:27:40 GMT -5
So basically whatever she was going to release after SG, would be destined to flop. Bottom line? They just don't want to play her songs ... they don't even let people decide if they like her music or not ... and this sucks big time because this song is better than half of the stuff on their lists! Oh man, they are so pathetic! Can't wait to see Pink live on the 27th. I heart my girl!
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Post by Felicia on Jun 7, 2006 4:30:29 GMT -5
"This song must be getting some pretty awful call-outs or fans are not requesting this song" ^^^^This is wrong! The song isn't even getting played enough to get call-outs or request, and when it is, it's overnights (when nobody is listening) anyway. US Radio is saying "NO" to this song or more likely to Pink. IMO, SG was Pink's 3rd and final strike for US Radio. I always knew this and told Jive but they didn't listen. Jive bent to pressure from Pink and her management neither of whom I think know anything about TODAYS market in the USA. The other artist her "genius" manager work with are Sade so basically they are completely out of touch. I'm sad about this but ultimately THEY dug their own grave. I have personally seen mistake after mistake being made. If Pink cares about the US, why hasn't she done a Radio Promo tour for "Who Knew"??? I actually am starting to think they don't really care and are content with just the ROW. It sucks cuz she is a great artist. :( So you mean Jive actually didn't want 'Stupid Girls' to be the lead single? What about 'Who Knew', was it Pink's idea too? :'( Has 'I'm Not Dead' reach Gold yet anyway?
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Post by thedoctorluke on Jun 7, 2006 5:17:11 GMT -5
Jive Peeps wanted U+UH - that is why both videos were shot.....
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Post by Mike on Jun 7, 2006 6:39:08 GMT -5
In the end, don't they have the final say? They would have been much better off over-ruling her. Why didn't they learn from their mistakes from the last record?
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Post by polly on Jun 7, 2006 7:25:53 GMT -5
Pink, knowing how stuborn she is (that's my girl :)) Would have probably done sucha poor job promoting the song and hell it may have even flopped. And when they made the SG fiml clip, her label loved it so much they gave into the pressure. I agree with ya doc, every word. Hell they could have released UUH and SG WW and UUH on its own JUST for the US. That would have done Pink a shit load of good. Having 2 great clips circulating AND having the better, more radio friendly of the two going ballistic in the US. UUH is PERFECT PINK. It's cachty, club thumping pop, it's sassy and a little bit cheekey. PERFECT right....... then how could they get is so fucking wrong?!
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Post by Gui393 on Jun 7, 2006 9:43:09 GMT -5
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Post by hollabackboy on Jun 7, 2006 9:47:40 GMT -5
Jive Peeps wanted U+UH - that is why both videos were shot..... That woulda been a better choice than "stupid girls." To be totally honest i think Pinks album is a good effort, but i dont feel she had any 1 particular song that would have been a good choice for the lead single. She had some great follow ups like "Long way to happy" and "who knew" but she didnt have that 1 song that just popped out as being a great lead single. Jive should have sent her back into the studio to crank out a good lead single.
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Post by polly on Jun 7, 2006 10:05:28 GMT -5
Um well of us who have the album agree UUH and LWTH would have been the perfect choices. They both could have smashes. Ah well. Any one have the new Nelly album? Mind giving me the link. Just I hope it's not Megaupload as it keeps saying it's unavailable. :(
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jun 7, 2006 12:18:24 GMT -5
To me, U and Ur Hand was the single.
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Post by PerPlexied on Jun 7, 2006 13:59:50 GMT -5
Shame, cause this song is fantastic.
Luke, why was Pink so against U + Ur Hand? I don't get it.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jun 7, 2006 14:06:40 GMT -5
Because it would have been a smash hit.
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Post by polly on Jun 7, 2006 21:03:48 GMT -5
Well no, I don't think that's the case. I just don't think it was one of her faavourites. I'm guessing she felt that if she loved the song so would everyone else. Obviously not.
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