MusicJunkie
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Post by MusicJunkie on Jul 28, 2006 22:09:32 GMT -5
I can assure you, if WK would've become a hit everyone would've said, "Oh, Pink knew what she was doing, this wasn't a bad single choice after all." No one knows if a single choice is a good one or not. You never know when a song will take off.
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Post by COW COW COW COW COW COW COW on Jul 28, 2006 22:58:22 GMT -5
^ True. Also at other message boards, there are no mentions of politics...LOL. Wasn't that about Madonna, anyway? Nor mention of the single's struggle being blamed on her or the song...this is getting crazy!
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Post by muscleclub on Jul 30, 2006 2:20:09 GMT -5
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Post by eric on Jul 30, 2006 2:29:29 GMT -5
It's a very good song, a shame pop missed out on one of her few good singles.
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Post by skaterboyccs on Jul 30, 2006 2:40:29 GMT -5
One of my favorite songs at the moment... I think that lyrically it is one of the best songs of P!nk love the last chorus her voice everything!!!!
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Post by polly on Jul 30, 2006 2:52:52 GMT -5
This single has been a smash WW. And in germany and Canada, it's is now making a move to the top ten. It's great. Awesome. This song has had great longevity. And it helped the album to sell more. I only hope UUH will do the same for the rest of the world. I hope they release LWTH WW as well, once UUH's run is over.
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Post by jamesforyou on Jul 30, 2006 10:41:42 GMT -5
Still n10 on the United World Chart. :)
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Post by [upsilon]™ on Jul 30, 2006 11:16:48 GMT -5
I'm still glad it's a hit everywhere else, basically. The UK already got a taste of the "U + Ur Hand" video release this past week. The video is up at www.chartsingles.net.
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Post by pinkeatspeaches on Jul 30, 2006 12:53:43 GMT -5
hehe it's cool that WK is gettin airplay in the rest of the world. I'm still estonished that's it's played a lot in France. I thought they didnt like Pop/rock music
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Post by MusicJunkie on Jul 30, 2006 19:33:05 GMT -5
Is the US the only country that flopped this amazing song?
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Post by muscleclub on Jul 30, 2006 19:45:03 GMT -5
Is the US the only country that flopped this amazing song? The answer to your question!
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Post by polly on Jul 30, 2006 20:05:54 GMT -5
WOW. So another big hit for Pink WW. I think UUH can do the same. I hope they do something amazing with LWTH in the US because WK didn't deserve to flop, but if LWTH does, then I think it's a crime!
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Post by Filthy Pop on Jul 31, 2006 21:48:30 GMT -5
They suck so much. It pisses me off, this song is so great. No use comparing this to WBT/SIO. WBT was a huge hit, SIO completely sucked it should have gone Top 10, and probably would barely have cracked the Top 20 hadn't it followed WBT. Who Knew coming off SG should have at least gone Top 35, but quailty wise this should be #1, it's a perfect song for pop radio, they should have released U+UH first then this so it'd have a chance.
POP RADIO SUCKS!
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Post by skaterboyccs on Jul 31, 2006 23:33:45 GMT -5
^^^ totally agree... it's 1000x better than WBT... is one of the best singles of the year... and 1000000xbetter than the hiphop crap that pop radio is playing right now... I don't know how if they play to death kelly clarkson's songs... why don't play this amazing song that is better than most of kelly's songs... that's a shame... pop and rhythmic radio sucks...
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Post by Dan on Jul 31, 2006 23:50:15 GMT -5
How the hell do you guys expect this to do well without and promotion? It just isn't gonna happen. It's doing so well in Europe because she was basically promoting this whole project over there. I knew from the time when she began promoting/performing in Europe and not in the US, that she was gonna flop.
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Post by polly on Aug 1, 2006 0:42:18 GMT -5
She went over to Europe for like a couple of weeks. And she went to the big markets. She hasn't been there since the US tour. And the album is still selling very nicely over there.
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Post by Felicia on Aug 1, 2006 4:01:12 GMT -5
Why the heck did you people bring Mimi & Kelly into this? Pink only has herself to blame for this huge mess. Choosing the wrong lead single (imo), taking her own time to release the next and the wrong one. U+UH was a sure-fire hit but she went against it.
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Post by pinkeatspeaches on Aug 1, 2006 4:38:14 GMT -5
SG wasnt underperformin oh god! stop sayin it was the wrong single! now cuz it didnt chart well in the US that makes it the bad first single? STOP IT! in Europe it's been #1 for 2 weeks and thanks to it she can afford 5 stadiums in France while she cud only fill Paris Bercy in 2004 (and it wasnt full) so peeps SG wasnt a wrong choice! I'm sure UUH wud have been a mess next to SG...
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Post by nitro on Aug 1, 2006 11:23:45 GMT -5
If WBT and SIO were THAT bad as skaterboy mentions, I don't WBT would have become the biggest hit in the history of radio, the biggest Hot 100 hit of the decade and be one of the few songs in Grammy history to be nominated for SOTY and ROTY. No offense, but Mariah was facing a much more uphill battle coming off of Glitter & CB than Pink is facing (if she is facing any.... Pink's career has been pretty stable, and maybe she isn't selling as much as her heydey, but it's not like she's trying to recover from a major controversy or stumbling block in her career a la Whitney or Janet or Britney or Michael or Mariah). Pink is still relatively hot, and if she had a first single that stuck with people and was a bigger hit than SG, radio would play this. American radio places a lot of emphasis on the lead single, and if the lead single is doesn't perform well, the album is more or less dead to them. SG didn't really tear up the request lines like Fergie and Justin's new songs are, so radio perceived that as meaning that this era is over for Pink. A re-release they could give Pink another shot. SG didn't do bad, it just wasn't a big hit. Who Knew is good, but it's too slow for me. I like the lyrics tho. It's not as racy as what I expect from Pink, and musically in my opinion it's lacking the umph Pink usually brings. I miss songs like Most Girls and Get The Party Started. I want more umph. I felt Stupid Girls had somewhat, but it still wasn't fully there. I actually liked SG, but just felt the lyrics were a little annoying at times. But overall, I didn't mind hearing it, and really liked the video. BTW, it's nominated for Best Pop video for MTV VMA, so be sure to go and vote.
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Post by skaterboyccs on Aug 1, 2006 12:08:19 GMT -5
ok... Who Knew is better song that wbt... but... wbt is just ok... and is the best song on the history of radio because RADIO decided play it to death and was #1 14 weeks not because the people buy digitally the song or something else like One Sweet Day @ that time... the song wasn't even pass the 800000 copies sold... ok the album sold well because the song but it wasn't worth the 14 weeks @ #1... Radio put the song @ #1 ... not the people... and... Shake It Off is just garbage that was #2 because the radio wanted to continue what they did with WBT.. (I'm not saying that We Belong Together is a bad song... is good... but Who Knew is better as pop song)
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Post by Dan on Aug 1, 2006 13:29:25 GMT -5
SG wasnt underperformin oh god! stop sayin it was the wrong single! now cuz it didnt chart well in the US that makes it the bad first single? STOP IT! in Europe it's been #1 for 2 weeks and thanks to it she can afford 5 stadiums in France while she cud only fill Paris Bercy in 2004 (and it wasnt full) so peeps SG wasnt a wrong choice! I'm sure UUH wud have been a mess next to SG... She didn't fucking promote anything in the US. How do you expect her to do well here without any promotion? Radio isn't gonna play her just because she's "Pink." She was coming off a flop album in the US, she needed all the promo she can get, but she decided not to do that in the US.
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Post by britneyrules on Aug 1, 2006 13:44:19 GMT -5
The US Music market technically is pretty much dead. promote where its still striving and raking in money!
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Post by francky on Aug 1, 2006 13:56:42 GMT -5
"Stupid Girls" was a great choice, at least overseas. It hasn't done that well in the US so she needed something stronger than "Who Knew" as second single. Great lyrics but this song is a bit boring IMO
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Post by Filthy Pop on Aug 1, 2006 14:10:49 GMT -5
It's not based off the first single at all, Gwen for example What You Waiting For was more or less a flop on pop, then she came back with Rich Girl which peaked #3 on pop I think, first singles don't determine much at all, people were probably looking at Gwen like she was a flop from there. She's not the only one either, Who Knew wasn't the best choice for single #2, she should have had something more catchy and upbeat.
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Post by skaterboyccs on Aug 1, 2006 14:23:44 GMT -5
Stupid Girls was a good first single and it wasn't a flop on US ... and who knew is a good single....
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Post by francky on Aug 1, 2006 14:27:56 GMT -5
Huuuh, "Rich Girl" was a hot poppy/r&b song, that's why it did better. People were feeling the urban Gwen.
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Post by Felicia on Aug 2, 2006 5:11:11 GMT -5
SG is not a flop, but it underperformed on radio. However, she gathered a lot of buzz and had a momentum going on, she should have released a strong track for a second single. WK is a great song, but it would have done so much better as a third single, and it doesn't fit the summer. LWTH & U&UH are better and stronger.
Avril (DTM), Mariah (WBT), Christina (Dirrty) & Britney (MATM) first singles all failed to reach top 10 on radio, but they released a strong, sure-hit second single, and look where it charted. I'm still sticking to my stand that WK is a wrong second single and U+UH (LWTH too) could have brought Pink back to top 3.
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Post by polly on Aug 2, 2006 5:46:02 GMT -5
Yeah... I don't know. I'd love to think they could have but who's to know!?
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Post by MyLastView on Aug 2, 2006 12:31:30 GMT -5
If no one has posted this, U + Ur hand is the third single.
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Post by JORDAN on Aug 2, 2006 17:24:19 GMT -5
U+Ur Hand is the third Worldwide single. It isnt the single for the US.
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