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Post by MyLastView on Oct 29, 2006 15:06:20 GMT -5
i kindda love this song! so fun ... but i'm glad she flopped Why are you glad she "flopped"? Why do you want her to fail? Do you have a good justified reason?
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Post by missclarkson on Oct 29, 2006 15:15:17 GMT -5
i kindda love this song! so fun ... but i'm glad she flopped Why are you glad she "flopped"? Why do you want her to fail? Do you have a good justified reason? because im sick of seeing pretty girl with no singing talent scoring hits on pop radio
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Post by MyLastView on Oct 29, 2006 15:22:22 GMT -5
So you'd much rather have people like Jibbs score hits on radio? -_-
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Post by popmusicaddict on Oct 29, 2006 15:42:35 GMT -5
So you'd much rather have people like Jibbs score hits on radio? -_- LOL, dude don't you know if you sing about inanimante objects that have bling its automatically a hit? duh! ;) Young Dro is in the works with a song about his belt next, smash in the making haha! No but on serious note so much worse things coulda been said about the song and the artist so I don't see why everyones being so defensive. My harshest thing was 'it didn't sound SUBG-ish' wow big deal, Missclarkson even admitted to loving the song and it was fun - stop being so defensive and let this song go already, its way past flop stage, On to her next one!
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Post by MyLastView on Oct 29, 2006 15:44:29 GMT -5
So you'd much rather have people like Jibbs score hits on radio? -_- LOL, dude don't you know if you sing about inanimante objects that have bling its automatically a hit? duh! ;) Young Dro is in the works with a song about his belt next, smash in the making haha! Oh yeah!! And having little kids sing the chorus makes it an absolute MEGA HIT!!! lol
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Post by enkil on Oct 29, 2006 16:30:02 GMT -5
Why are you glad she "flopped"? Why do you want her to fail? Do you have a good justified reason? because im sick of seeing pretty girl with no singing talent scoring hits on pop radio Sounds like jealousy. But I hope you will respect other people's opinion. Just because you think that she has no talent doesn't mean everyone agrees with you. And if she's scoring hits it's because people actually like her song. Everything happens for a reason.
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Post by Diablo Cody™ on Oct 30, 2006 10:29:27 GMT -5
Young Dro is in the works with a song about his belt next, smash in the making haha! OMG can't wait!
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Post by missclarkson on Oct 30, 2006 12:29:47 GMT -5
because im sick of seeing pretty girl with no singing talent scoring hits on pop radio Sounds like jealousy. But I hope you will respect other people's opinion. Just because you think that she has no talent doesn't mean everyone agrees with you. And if she's scoring hits it's because people actually like her song. Everything happens for a reason. jealousy??lol of what dude?? of her flop album?lol as u said, everything happens for a reason. there's a reason why this flopped too.
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Post by justfloating on Oct 30, 2006 17:20:45 GMT -5
i know right... why would he be jealous of her flopping album worldwide and this single that did nothing anywhere....please explain how that is jealousy.she has not even scored a hit.
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Post by enkil on Oct 30, 2006 17:45:22 GMT -5
Sounds like jealousy. But I hope you will respect other people's opinion. Just because you think that she has no talent doesn't mean everyone agrees with you. And if she's scoring hits it's because people actually like her song. Everything happens for a reason. jealousy??lol of what dude?? of her flop album?lol as u said, everything happens for a reason. there's a reason why this flopped too. Jealous in the sense that a pretty girl with "no talent" ACCORDING to you, is hitting scores. I also don't think the album was a flop. It depends what the exact definition of "flop" is to you, unless you're one of those who instantly call everything Paris does as a "flop", like justfloating. Yes, Paris' album didn't sell as WELL as it should have, but you don't call that a flop. And... the reason why it didn't sell as well as it should have is quite obvious, and clearly it is NOT because her songs sucked. justfloating, You're assuming things; you're very blind. You haven't seen the facts, or don't want to see them.
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Post by justfloating on Oct 31, 2006 7:27:40 GMT -5
No, stars are blind and Ive seen the facts. Her album completely flopped in sales, chart position, and singles. A mediocre first single, her second single does abosultely but peak at like 288 on Mediabase. those are the facts. if she's so talented why doesnt she perform live? thats right, her producers and computers are the talent in this operation.
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Post by enkil on Oct 31, 2006 8:32:08 GMT -5
No, stars are blind and Ive seen the facts. A mediocre first single. Her album completely flopped in sales, chart position, and singles. Give me a break! Don't overexaggerate! if she's so talented why doesnt she perform live? thats right, her producers and computers are the talent in this operation. You think I'm not waiting for a performance? And last time I checked, she's still practicing her dancing and vocals. Second, even if you think that Paris has nothing to offer, I would never had my favourite album of all times. And like as if, it's not the same with other artists who make todays boring same old songs. She made this possible because she can, made it possible and I'm proud of her. Because I bought Paris' album, not Pink, nor Christina.
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Post by Diablo Cody™ on Oct 31, 2006 13:43:32 GMT -5
Paris sold more than most independent acts, and Christina Milian, Ashley Parker Angel and Cheyenne! She's a super star!
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Post by Girls, girls, girls, girls... on Oct 31, 2006 14:52:06 GMT -5
I've already said that and I will say it again: YES, she isn't Mariah Carey or Whitney Houston or Kelly Clarkson. Does it mean anything? IN MY OPINION, no. Give me Paris and her paper thin voice over Whitney's warbling anyday. There's more to voice than the ability to carry a tune etc., there's emotion, there's charisma and lots of other things, and you know what? Call me crazy, but I can hear it in that girl's voice! Yeah, I know it's been pro-tooled to death, but still, there's something really vulnerable, sweet and naive about her childlike vocals. Whitney and Celine can be technically perfect when it comes to warbling, but their 'big' voices often lack ANY trace of personality and emotion. With Paris, it isn't like that. And besides, if it wasn't for Paris, we probably wouldn't have Stars Are Blind, Nothing In This World etc, which (IN MY OPINION) would be a huge loss for pop industry in 2006. So, thank you Paris
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Post by enkil on Oct 31, 2006 15:25:52 GMT -5
I've already said that and I will say it again: YES, she isn't Mariah Carey or Whitney Houston or Kelly Clarkson. Does it mean anything? IN MY OPINION, no. Give me Paris and her paper thin voice over Whitney's warbling anyday. There's more to voice than the ability to carry a tune etc., there's emotion, there's charisma and lots of other things, and you know what? Call me crazy, but I can hear it in that girl's voice! Yeah, I know it's been pro-tooled to death, but still, there's something really vulnerable, sweet and naive about her childlike vocals. Whitney and Celine can be technically perfect when it comes to warbling, but their 'big' voices often lack ANY trace of personality and emotion. With Paris, it isn't like that. And besides, if it wasn't for Paris, we probably wouldn't have Stars Are Blind, Nothing In This World etc, which (IN MY OPINION) would be a huge loss for pop industry in 2006. So, thank you Paris OMG! You said it! You said it...! There's hardly anyone like Paris in the music industry. Almost all of them are all serious and have plenty of fillers in their album. Paris is the unique one. She has this sexy/sweet voice, which represent who is she is, and that's what makes her music so fun. And that's what the public wants from her. Paris really did find her place in music, and she should keep it. If only, she could go on stage with that tour. But I guess we have to wait until she's fully ready. And of course, without Paris, we wouldn't have the fun lyrics of Turn You On, Turn It Up and Jealousy.
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Post by Diablo Cody™ on Oct 31, 2006 15:34:00 GMT -5
How much did Paris pay you guys to write your comments?
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Post by enkil on Oct 31, 2006 16:35:14 GMT -5
How much did Paris pay you guys to write your comments? You really can't face the fact that there are thousands of fans worldwide who love Paris Hilton's music, can you? We are honest people and say if we truly like music. Unlike you, we don't judge Paris' music by looking how much money she has, how famous she is or how pretty she is. Your comments show not only incompetence, but also ignorance. And let me tell you it's one big cruel ignorance when you disrespect other's opinion and suppress opposition. Paris is not paying me for posting my honest opinion about her music, I'm actually rewarding her by buying CDs, so in the future, we can have more of her fun and quality songs that I and hundreds of thousands of fans enjoy to listen to.
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Post by justfloating on Oct 31, 2006 19:22:24 GMT -5
yes thousands of fans....other artists have millions. whats up with SAT vocabulary? you dont sound smarter. I find it hilarious that you find her album to have no fillers and you are agreeing with someone who said her voice has been pro-tooled to death. You think its right for an artist to release songs that they cannot even sing? No, its not. Thats what I have against her. Life is about more than fun and making sex tapes. Yes reward that. Unoriginality and corrupter of teenage girls. someone who has to make a news announcement that she is mending a friendship with Nicole Richie....Ignorance means we are ignoring the facts which we are not, as for respecting opinions, we are all debating and therefore I could say the same to you that you are not respecting my opinion. You are clearly upset because you cannot face the facts that this album has been a complete failure and I accept that. I understand your problem now.
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Post by enkil on Oct 31, 2006 21:35:23 GMT -5
yes thousands of fans....other artists have millions. whats up with SAT vocabulary? you dont sound smarter. I find it hilarious that you find her album to have no fillers and you are agreeing with someone who said her voice has been pro-tooled to death. You think its right for an artist to release songs that they cannot even sing? No, its not. Thats what I have against her. Life is about more than fun and making sex tapes. Yes reward that. Unoriginality and corrupter of teenage girls. someone who has to make a news announcement that she is mending a friendship with Nicole Richie....Ignorance means we are ignoring the facts which we are not, as for respecting opinions, we are all debating and therefore I could say the same to you that you are not respecting my opinion. You are clearly upset because you cannot face the facts that this album has been a complete failure and I accept that. I understand your problem now. You're actually very wrong. You're the lemming here actually, because you pretend to know Paris when all of your information comes from the media. I can clearly see it in your writing. The opinion you have is from our lying media. Let me explain. I find it hilarious that you find her album to have no fillers Yes, no fillers! 100% correct. you are agreeing with someone who said her voice has been pro-tooled to death I haven't said that I agree with that opinion, but I've heard Paris' voice and I know how it is when she sings live and her producers have spoken about it, but since you aren't a fan and pretend to know Paris, you don't have the same access of info like I do. If you had the special edition of her CD, you would see what Paris really sounds like. And you will realize that it is NOT that "pro-tooled to death" afterall. I've heard this excuse before, and I think it is really stupid because almost every artist uses it. You think its right for an artist to release songs that they cannot even sing? No, its not. Thats what I have against her. Of course, you think I'd rather listen to Mariah or Christina? Listen to their fillers? Hell no! Even if Paris can't sing, I'd rather listen to her songs IF the singing isn't horrendous. And the day, when she takes the stage, you will be forced to drop this argument. But trust me, I by far wasn't expecting Paris' album to be my favourite album of all times. Thats what I have against her. Life is about more than fun and making sex tapes. Yes reward that. Unoriginality and corrupter of teenage girls. someone who has to make a news announcement that she is mending a friendship with Nicole Richie.... There you have it. You know almost nothing about Paris, or pretend you do. Life is more than fun??????????????????????????????????? Do you even know what Paris is doing?????? Tell me something, is she sitting on her ass or partying all day and night like most heirs and heiresses so? Is she using all her parent's money, OR making her OWN money? You don't know Paris and this argument of yours comes from the lying media. AND, Paris has the RIGHT to party and have fun like any other girl. How dare you bring out the "sex tape"! Like as IF she released it. Like as IF she knew that her ex-BF would release it and profit from it like a pig. The tape, dear, belong to her ex-BF. He used that money to buy a mansion and Paris recieved nothing from it. It's foolish enough that you add an "s" to "sex tape" because only one tape was released. Obviously, you assmued there were more. As for Paris and Nicole's friendship, the heck are you talking? No, dah, everyone sees her with Nicole. They're friends again! For the record, she didn't even do an announcement. She just said they're friends again BECAUSE the media pressures her to answer these questions. But don't pretend that this is some shocking thing. Ignorance means we are ignoring the facts which we are not, as for respecting opinions, we are all debating and therefore I could say the same to you that you are not respecting my opinion. The fact is that you hate Paris Hilton, it's most likely because like most haters you are jealous of her life and how she grew up. That's the hating and jealousy factor. That's why you totally insist that the album and her singles are a complete flop. But you see, it really doesn't matter how well Paris does in anything, because it is always regarded as "flop" by the haters of course. You are clearly upset because you cannot face the facts that this album has been a complete failure and I accept that. I understand your problem now. It's your biased opinion dear. I look at the facts, and the fact is that the album neither flopped or did great (as expected). What I learnt here is that you don't know the real Paris and assume everything, and do not respect other people's desire to listen to a singer that in your opinion, doesn't deserve to have an album because she can't sing. You want us to shup up and not like her, but it's not going to happen. Listen, I will not judge an album by knowing if the person can sing or not. I judge it by listen to the music and if I truly like what I hear, I buy it. Take for example, Pink. I'm sure your a big fan of her newest album, but guess what? I personally think that Paris' album is ZILLION times better than Pink's. It's not horrible, but definitely not worth to buy. Actually, I think Pink's first album (Take me home) was a ZILLION times better than her newest one. I'll definitely buy that one also when I see it. You wanna hear a funny story? The first time I made my sisters listen to one of Paris' song, Fightin Over Me, they started singing and dancing, but when I told them it was Paris who was singing, they said "arguh, she can't sing... it sucks". Now, they like the song, but never mention Paris when they listen to it. I really don't care your opinion about Paris' songs (probably it's biased also) and who she is, but NEVER mess with the facts or ASSUME. I'm sorry if this is a long post and don't take it too personally. All I see in you is jealousy, hatred and assumptions about Paris and I'm sick of that. You will deny that, but it is crystal clear to any thoughtful person. But at least you read the true facts, so I'll end it here.
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Post by Diablo Cody™ on Oct 31, 2006 21:42:01 GMT -5
How much did Paris pay you guys to write your comments? You really can't face the fact that there are thousands of fans worldwide who love Paris Hilton's music, can you? We are honest people and say if we truly like music. Unlike you, we don't judge Paris' music by looking how much money she has, how famous she is or how pretty she is. Your comments show not only incompetence, but also ignorance. And let me tell you it's one big cruel ignorance when you disrespect other's opinion and suppress opposition. Paris is not paying me for posting my honest opinion about her music, I'm actually rewarding her by buying CDs, so in the future, we can have more of her fun and quality songs that I and hundreds of thousands of fans enjoy to listen to. Please don't spazz on me and write 53664366 paragraphs about it. I loved Paris since The Simple Life, season 1, and I love her music! I find this song to be way better than "Stars Are Blind", and the video is cute. But "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy" is her best song IMO great, fun cover.
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Post by justfloating on Oct 31, 2006 22:33:16 GMT -5
Ill make this quick in response to your essay. You dont know Paris either. I have access to the same things and references you do. I have no reason to be jealous of Paris.Im studying to get my Doctorate degree and enjoying. Last time I checked, Paris isnt a doctor, but please since you and her are personal friends, enlighten me about that as well. Again, Im not jealous of her lifestyle. Say what you about P!nk, I dont care, because you know what P!nk is one of the most critically acclaimed artists of our time and Globally one of the most popular artists. Does that make her good? Yes, people relate to her and she has a real message. I wont compare them further because that is not what this argument is about. I bought Paris' album because after hearing "Stars Are Blind" I was curious and pleasantly surprised. I have nothing against Paris on a personal perspective, however my complaint is when people 'attempt' to compare her to people like Pink, Christina Aguilera, and Mariah Carey. This takes it to a different level and when you question artists of their calibre, its disappointing. The most important part of my argument is based on Billboard, charts, and sales. I am not going from the 'lying media' as you put it. I am going from chart positions and most importantly sales for the album and singles thus far. The album has performed poorly. Dont see how one could argue that fact. Sales wise, disappointing as well as charting and staying power. That is a fact not my opinion. Stars are Blind was not a flop. ill admit to being too harsh on that. It charted decently. However, people these days are beyond the pop princess that used to be Spice Girls, Britney Spears, and Aguilera (back in the day). Its not longer accepted. people want substance.
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Post by missclarkson on Nov 1, 2006 1:24:47 GMT -5
i cant believe people are defending paris and her singing career ..lol
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Post by Pulse on Nov 1, 2006 1:26:46 GMT -5
Why is that so hard to believe? Because it's easier for you to hate on her? ;)
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Post by missclarkson on Nov 1, 2006 1:29:34 GMT -5
whatever dude .. im not gonna fight a paris fan lol ... there's npthing to fight about .. she flopped.
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Post by Pulse on Nov 1, 2006 1:32:05 GMT -5
Please! Like I'd waste my time fighting a Kelly fan ;)
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Post by Girls, girls, girls, girls... on Nov 1, 2006 2:08:18 GMT -5
However, people these days are beyond the pop princess that used to be Spice Girls, Britney Spears, and Aguilera (back in the day). Its not longer accepted. people want substance. Have it ever crossed your mind that there was some kind of 'substance' behind the Spice Girls, Britney and Xtina (back in the day)? Take the Spice Girls: they had a clear message ('Girl Power!') and they somehow tried to apply it to their own lives. They didn't try to rely on their boobs and asses to sell records; yes, they were fun, but it's not like 'having a substance' = 'being all serious and despressed'. Oh, and if look at Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston, they don't really have much 'substance' too. Yeah, they have big voices, but what are their songs about? Loverboys, heartbreakers and adventures in Disneyland? Come on, even Paris can do better now! Give that girl her time to grow and maybe she will deliver her own 'Fly Like A Bird'. As a hot soundtrack to her new sex tape ;) Oh, and the last time I checked, most of us, common people, didn't care about 'substance'. What we really, really want is a solid pop song (like Nothing In This World OR Who Knew, they both are totally great). That's it. NOTHING ELSE.
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Post by George on Nov 1, 2006 2:39:22 GMT -5
I like this song.
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Post by enkil on Nov 1, 2006 12:01:24 GMT -5
i cant believe people are defending paris and her singing career ..lol Here's my nasty respond to your question. Your question isn't related to her music, but to Paris. Your question is: why do people support Paris and like what she does? But this is a blind question you're asking. Your question should be more like this: Why are there average people supporting a pretty, rich and famous girl? That's your real question. You really can't face the fact that not every wants to discriminate against people like Paris because it's EASY to do so. And she has faced this jealousy and discriminatory since she was a kid. Oh sure, now you'll deny that you're jealous of her and everything like every hater, but it's clear. That's why you don't want her to make songs. That's why you wish/hope she would flop. That's why you hate her. In reality, Paris is just doing her thing like any artist, and there's really nothing wrong if people like her music or support her and there's hardly any justified reason to truly hate her. Jealousy isn't a reason. Don't consider her bad qualities only, look at her good qualities also. No one is flawless in life, but Paris is a far better person than most heiresses or girls.
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Post by justfloating on Nov 1, 2006 16:59:09 GMT -5
Oh my goodness pleaSe stop IGNORING THE QUESTION and diverting the argument to jealousy. Can you not stay on topic? That is not the issue at hand and you keep bringing up things that are irrelevant because you dont want to face what is being said because there is no defence to them. Sure people want money but that doesnt mean people are jealous of people with more money than them. All artists in this forum are rich. Why would someone only be jealous of Paris. It makes not senes.
Yes, Paris is doing her thing and there is nothing wrong with people hating her or loving her. I have no problem with it. You cannot make people love her and I cannot make people hate her. So dont say things like to look at her good qualities and Jealousy isnt a reason.
The argument was the album did not perform well, (some would even say flopped). Based on chart positions and sales, it did. Regardless of wishes and hopes it did not sell well globally. Thats done. Facts are facts. Unless you have some statistics that tell otherwise thats done.
When I said substance I was referring to getting out of the record company finding people to write catchy songs to release. Yes, Spice Girls had a good message and I shouldnt really include them because they sang and had a strong message. Early Britney and Christina, well, not lacking substance but we have come to find they can offer much more and we see how different they are as well as Pink when their record companies dont tell them what to do. And you know what, we may come to find the same with Paris later on and I have no problem with that. We do need good pop music but lets not compare "Who Knew", a song that was Top 10 in almost every country in the world to "Nothing in this World" as though they are on the same playing field. I say that because Who Knew is about a friend of Pink's who died.
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Post by babyboylrtm on Nov 1, 2006 17:07:43 GMT -5
WORK IT PARIS FAN! Love ya already.
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