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Post by Monroe on Nov 8, 2008 21:52:38 GMT -5
Is anyone else as impressed of this album as I am. I know that the critics ripped her apart for her overly sexualized image but I love soo many songs from this disc. Fever, Where Life Begins, Bad Girl, Rain, Erotica, Thief Of Hearts and Bye Bye Baby are all amazing songs. It deserved soo much more success then what it got. I think it may overall be my favorite Madonna album.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 11, 2008 16:52:11 GMT -5
Madonna's best 1990s album.
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Post by unicorns on Nov 13, 2008 20:26:18 GMT -5
I don't have it, but I've heard all the songs on it and I think it's great! Except the last two tracks are kinda crap.
Here's how I'd rank the album:
1. Bad Girl 2. Deeper and Deeper 3. Erotica 4. Rain (I actually love this song a lot more than I used to) 5. Waiting 6. Words 7. Thief Of Hearts 8. In This Life 9. Fever 10. Where Life Begins 11. Bye Bye Baby 12. Why's It So Hard 13. Secret Garden 14. Did You Do It?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2008 20:28:08 GMT -5
My second favorite album of hers, behind Bedtime Stories.
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Post by Disco🌶️📖 on Nov 14, 2008 2:49:19 GMT -5
This is my favorite Madonna album.
When I first heard about this album all those years ago, I was expecting it to be "very inappropriate." Save for a handful of the songs, the album wasn't quite that sexually explicit. It's relatively tame compared to a lot of what is being released now.
I would rank it like this: 01. In This Life 02. Rain 03. Words 04. Erotica 05. Thief Of Hearts 06. Where Life Begins 07. Why's It So Hard 08. Deeper and Deeper 09. Bad Girl 10. Fever 11. Secret Garden 12. Bye Bye Baby 13 Waiting 14. Did You Do It? (it's funny how this is my favorite album by her but this is my most hated song from it and possibly overall; I don't consider it to be a Madonna song in the conventional sense because there are very few vocals of hers on it and the edited version of the album doesn't even include this song)
I really liked the music videos for this era. They were all really different, but they were all pretty artistic. "Erotica" was really sexy and naughty. "Deeper And Deeper" was pretty good too. The best part was when they were eating the bananas. "Bad Girl" was like a mini-movie. Really fitting. "Fever" was pretty steamy too. "Rain" was absolutely stunning. It was very simple, but just so beautiful. I liked M's look in that video.
The remixes for this era were pretty good. Masters At Work did some really good Hip Hop/R&B type mixes of "Erotica". The main one of the KenLou mix was performed during the Girlie Show tour. The House mixes they did were more dub-like. William Orbit's mix was cool because it used the alternate vocals heard in the song "Erotic" which was on that CD that came with the Sex book. Shep Pettibone and David Morales both really turned "Deeper & Deeper." Although their mixes didn't stray from the original that much, they really did a great job. Murk did a really great job on "Fever", but I preferred the Edit One that was used in the video.
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Post by unicorns on Nov 15, 2008 10:02:55 GMT -5
I love the Orbit remix of "Erotica".
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Post by Monroe on Dec 11, 2008 1:01:56 GMT -5
My favorite incarnation of "Erotica" was the 2006 tour version of "Erotica (You Thrill Me) or "I Love To Put You In A Trance" it's so romantic and sensual.
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Post by kilt on Dec 12, 2008 4:31:51 GMT -5
If she released "Erotica" and the SEX book not on the same date, then the album would have stood a chance. She bit off more that she could chew
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Post by jazklash on Dec 12, 2008 8:04:06 GMT -5
Three reasons why this album (and Bedtime Stories too, "Take A Bow"'s run at #1 aside) kinda flopped:
a) Overexposure - Since 1983, not only Madonna seemed like she could do no wrong, she was pretty much everywhere nonstop. It had to take a toll somewhere, and this album was it.
b) Perception - When she came with the Erotica/Sex!/Body of Evidence triumvirate, in the eyes of many, she didn't exactly come off as pushing the envelope, so much as she came off as desperate. Her image before was already sexualized enough that even the Catholic church felt the need to comment and announce her as Beelzebub incarnate! That alone should have given her indication that cranking the sexuality factor up to 11 might not have been the way to go. But then she didn't have the benefit of hindsight to make these decisions.
c) Context - When Erotica came out, the popular culture zeitgeist had changed. Glamorous popstars like Madonna were deemed passé, what with alt.rock, gangsta rap, hip-hop soul and even country-pop capturing the younger demographics' hearts and minds. Being down-to-Earth and "real" was now the "it" thing. And if not, then irony (cf: U2 in their Achtung Baby/Zooropa days) was the other option. Madonna was neither. She still favored larger-than-life and was unapologetic about it (cf: Bedtime Stories' "Human Nature"). Commendable, and not without a hint of romanticism. But there you go: win some, lose some.
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Post by Monroe on Dec 12, 2008 14:24:02 GMT -5
It's interesting that Take A Bow was her biggest hit during those era's. That song is perhaps the most down to earth Madonna love song ever.
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Post by musicwriter on Dec 15, 2008 14:25:08 GMT -5
"Did You Do it?" wasn't included on the Canadian pressings of this album.
Each Madonna album in the 1990s had a different style. "Erotica" sort of had her dance/club, late at night feel.
"Bedtime Stories" in 1994 was more R&B influenced,
"Ray Of Light" in 1998 was more euro-dance influenced some what.
Overall, great album. One of her best.
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Post by PDC1987 on Feb 9, 2009 17:00:32 GMT -5
Is anyone else as impressed of this album as I am. I know that the critics ripped her apart for her overly sexualized image but I love soo many songs from this disc. Fever, Where Life Begins, Bad Girl, Rain, Erotica, Thief Of Hearts and Bye Bye Baby are all amazing songs. It deserved soo much more success then what it got. I think it may overall be my favorite Madonna album. At least the album had good catalog sales, until Something To Remember and then GHV2 destroyed them, that is. Erotica "only" scanned about 1.35 million during its 53 week Billboard 200 run, but to date has scanned 1.89 million. That means at least some people went back and bought the album after the controversy was a thing of the past and thus gave it a chance. Also, a while back some magazine went back and re-reviewed the album, and gave it a much better rating this time around.
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Post by nlp81906 on Feb 9, 2009 22:07:46 GMT -5
Great album the title track was the controversial song, but Deeper and Deeper was a club anthem, Rain was a softer track, good album
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Post by musicwriter on Mar 16, 2009 23:59:02 GMT -5
Loved it in '92.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2009 13:19:07 GMT -5
Not one of my favorite Madonna albums, but it's still very good. Her only two albums I don't like are American Life and Hard Candy, unless you count I'm Breathless, which aside from "Vogue" is not really my taste.
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Jul 10, 2009 14:06:29 GMT -5
One of her strongest imo. Such a shame it got a bit lost in the over-sexualised circus that was this stage in her career. A favourite.
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Post by Osaka Sun on Jul 10, 2009 20:06:25 GMT -5
This is my least favorite Madonna album. The music was overshadowed by Madonna's urge to prove she's a slut. Plus the songs are way too long in the album.
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Post by Dammn Baby on Jul 11, 2009 17:29:26 GMT -5
My favourite album of hers. Rain is so so beautiful.
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Post by PDC1987 on Jul 22, 2009 15:23:05 GMT -5
The music was overshadowed by Madonna's urge to prove she's a slut. The epitome of misinterpretation.
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Post by Glove Slap on Jul 22, 2009 15:30:56 GMT -5
The music was overshadowed by Madonna and Warner's decision to release the album and the book at the same time. Even Madonna herself later stated that that was a bad move.
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Post by PDC1987 on Jul 23, 2009 16:30:38 GMT -5
The music was overshadowed by Madonna and Warner's decision to release the album and the book at the same time. Even Madonna herself later stated that that was a bad move. Yes, overkill and overexposure were the biggest reasons for the backlash. Without the SEX book and 'Body of Evidence' I think the album and its singles would have been better received.
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Post by sunpeach on Jul 23, 2009 17:48:50 GMT -5
I don't remember this doing bad, it was a hit just not huge. I liked Bad Girl and Deeper and Deeper but she was getting away from the dance stuff and that is what a lot of people weren't too happy about (and got even further away on Bedtime Stories) The porno pics in Sex were shocking but I admired her for it even though the pics themselves were over-the-top- she did something no one had ever done- no one had gone that far like that at their peak of their fame- I think she sort of established herself as an artist then simply because of the risks she took- not necessarily what came out of them. She didn't act like a celebrity- it was refreshing, it was different- it was liberating, she was really something no one had seen before- someone willing to do the unthinkable.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jul 23, 2009 18:38:12 GMT -5
Erotica just doesn't do it for me. Never has. Either did Bedtime Stories. But anything before and after those 2 were incredible, imo. ROL changed my life, lol.
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Post by masterpiece on Sept 4, 2009 18:22:11 GMT -5
This album is fair but her best album is easily Bedtime Stories
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Post by Mpol on Oct 21, 2009 4:14:11 GMT -5
These two albums are just superb (Erotica and Bedtiem Stories.) 90's Madonna has EASILY been my favorite to date. EASILY. She had AMAZING videos, albums were all different and yet superb in their own right and her attitude was too cool.
I don't see them as commercial flops either.
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Post by Legoman on Feb 1, 2010 5:09:01 GMT -5
One of the best Madonna albums
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Post by nlp81906 on Feb 1, 2010 18:29:17 GMT -5
I really feel like artistically, Erotica, Bedtime Stories, Ray of Light were her artistic peak, all three are so incredible...
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Post by Mpol on Feb 4, 2010 17:28:58 GMT -5
90's was her creative PEAK, yes yes indeed.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 4, 2010 19:05:29 GMT -5
my 2nd LEAST favorite Madonna album, only ahead of Bedtime Stories. It just doesn't do anything for me. The singles are ok, but the rest is meh. Early to mid-90's was not a good time for her.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 4, 2010 23:33:59 GMT -5
I appreciate the intent behind the album, but it's too cold for my liking (compared to albums like Like a Prayer and Ray of Light). The album may have been stronger if she worked with Andre Betts on more tracks, and Shep Pettibone on less.
"Waiting" is the best track on the album. "Rain" would have been bigger if it were the second single; I recall some stations spinning it before "Deeper and Deeper" was confirmed as the second single). "Bad Girl" was a very non-mainstream choice as a single, thematically- but, like "Oh Father," she didn't let chart potential dictate the release- and we got another great video.
Think what a track like "In This Life" could have been like, had Pat Leonard been the collaborator.
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