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Post by Felicia on Nov 25, 2007 10:15:36 GMT -5
No. 86 on Itunes.
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Post by ninek on Nov 25, 2007 10:31:30 GMT -5
great
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Post by Nevermind on Nov 25, 2007 10:33:55 GMT -5
YAY !!!! the bullet went up !!! :o :o :o By 7! OMG! Is this making a comeback? YaY! Seriously though, why is this flopping, does anyone have a proper logical reason lol.
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Post by ~ M-Dolla ¤ on Nov 25, 2007 11:02:44 GMT -5
Cause the song is forgettable and not as good as everyone thinks?!
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Post by Felicia on Nov 25, 2007 11:10:53 GMT -5
Maybe it's getting not so good call-outs. Boston gave it test spins but didn't add it.
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Post by Mike on Nov 25, 2007 11:12:52 GMT -5
Shoulda gone with "Runaway."
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Post by ~ M-Dolla ¤ on Nov 25, 2007 11:19:18 GMT -5
Yeah, or definitley something a lot more catchy.. IMHO its very forgettable.. Girlfriend was awesome, WYG was a good ballad, this just isnt.. When I listen to Hot its like where the Avril that everyone loves? The lyrics are just meh and the music doesnt make up for it like Girlfriend did, that song is so damn infexious, its REALLY hard not to love it or get it suck in your head.. this song you just want to run for the skip button. imo anway.
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Felicia
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Post by Felicia on Nov 25, 2007 13:14:34 GMT -5
No. 83 on Itunes.
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Post by JayBoozer on Nov 25, 2007 13:17:11 GMT -5
Yeah, or definitley something a lot more catchy.. IMHO its very forgettable.. Girlfriend was awesome, WYG was a good ballad, this just isnt.. When I listen to Hot its like where the Avril that everyone loves? The lyrics are just meh and the music doesnt make up for it like Girlfriend did, that song is so damn infexious, its REALLY hard not to love it or get it suck in your head.. this song you just want to run for the skip button. imo anway. Strange... I thought Hot was the standout track on the album when I heard it. I think everyone is just trying to rationalize why it's not doing well... I don't really think it has anything to do with the song.
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Post by Break The Ice on Nov 25, 2007 13:21:59 GMT -5
Starting to go up on i-Tunes!
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Post by Monroe on Nov 25, 2007 13:39:24 GMT -5
Do you think this will do a "Nobody's Home" 3rd single after two bigger songs and this one is just stalling.....
When was it sent for adds?
54 AVRIL LAVIGNE Hot 382 358 24 1.289
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Post by MyLastView on Nov 25, 2007 13:40:58 GMT -5
When was it sent for adds? 10/23
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Post by Monroe on Nov 25, 2007 13:44:54 GMT -5
5 weeks ago. Ouch....
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~ M-Dolla ¤
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Post by ~ M-Dolla ¤ on Nov 25, 2007 16:16:42 GMT -5
Yeah, or definitley something a lot more catchy.. IMHO its very forgettable.. Girlfriend was awesome, WYG was a good ballad, this just isnt.. When I listen to Hot its like where the Avril that everyone loves? The lyrics are just meh and the music doesnt make up for it like Girlfriend did, that song is so damn infexious, its REALLY hard not to love it or get it suck in your head.. this song you just want to run for the skip button. imo anway. Strange... I thought Hot was the standout track on the album when I heard it. I think everyone is just trying to rationalize why it's not doing well... I don't really think it has anything to do with the song. Ok, then what would be the reason? Im not tryin to rationalize anything, Ive never liked the song, I always thought it would go no where, Im just giving my opinion on why I dont think its going anywhere. And imo its def no where near a standout track.
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Post by Positive Tension on Nov 25, 2007 17:32:21 GMT -5
I agree with JustinAB and don't think there's anything wrong with the song. It's one of the few on the album I listen to now and actually grew on me quite a bit. And while the lyrics are laughably bad, the song is definitely catchy and much better than the limp "When You're Gone."
I think the middling performance of "When You're Gone" and the long gap between that and the adds for this song are partly to blame. People could also be tired of this Avril and want the angrier, darker one back, as I do.
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Post by ~ M-Dolla ¤ on Nov 25, 2007 18:02:45 GMT -5
Yeah, but with Avril being a hot radio artist and the song being (so called) 'good', radio should have picked it up b4 the adds date on that alone and even more after. They do that with every other top artist.
I still think the songs a dud and she has better choices on the album.. but oh well, ya win some, and you lose some.
And imo you really cant compare this and WYG, ones a ballad and ones a mid tempo pop rock song.. one is a good ballad with pretty good lyrics, while the other has crap lyrics and def not a song that grabs your attention like say Runaway, I Can Do Better, Girlfriend, etc
Id bet that Runaway or I Can Do Better wouldnt be struggling.
Even Piece Of Me is doing better than this and it didnt come off too successful songs, adds date hasnt hit yet, and its Britney.
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Post by Callmeatomic on Nov 25, 2007 19:47:01 GMT -5
What happened to this era? I thought it would be a smash following Girlfriend. It seemed to have lost steam.
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Post by Sticky&Sweet™ on Nov 25, 2007 20:27:29 GMT -5
Except it didn't follow Girlfriend, it followed When You're Gone, which did alright.
There is nothing wrong with 'Hot'. It's one of the best songs on the album and very single worthy. Why radio isn't playing it, who knows. Why isn't radio playing Kelly Clarkson- their golden girl for so long? Radio is very fickle. Some songs end up being hits or misses.
It has nothing to do with the song- it's very single worthy. It should have been the 2nd single though.
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Post by ~ M-Dolla ¤ on Nov 26, 2007 0:20:34 GMT -5
When Youre Gone did alright? Yeah right. It might not have been a huge hit but it was definitely successful.
Anyway, if theres another single after this one what would you like it to be?
My choice - Innocence or Runaway.
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Post by ~ M-Dolla ¤ on Nov 26, 2007 0:36:09 GMT -5
So I put the song on repeat and to be perfectly honest, its not THAT bad, I really like the second half of the song, maybe its how the song starts that I dont like, but it does get catchy after a lil bit and its nice to listen to.. like I said I really like the ending. Its so funny how my opinion changes after listening to something enough. hA! BUT f**k I LOVE INNOCENCE! Ugh!!! I really like Contagious too, too bad its only 2 mins.
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Post by Chris Ng on Nov 26, 2007 6:01:23 GMT -5
moved up to #82 and now down to #86 ! :(
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Post by ninek on Nov 26, 2007 7:34:47 GMT -5
55 54 AVRIL LAVIGNE Hot 388 358 30 1.342
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Post by Felicia on Nov 26, 2007 7:38:31 GMT -5
Radio is just being picky, that's why this is not taking off.
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Post by ~ M-Dolla ¤ on Nov 26, 2007 10:26:04 GMT -5
^Probably.. Or maybe their just not in to it.. theres lots of time that songs should be hits over some really crappy songs but it doesnt happen.. What Im most surprised about is that its Avril and shes had two successful songs already.. Im surprised their being like this about this one.. I still think its the song but overall its not as bad as I thought.
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Post by JJ on Nov 26, 2007 21:12:41 GMT -5
This is one of those songs that get immediately into you head but all you want is for it to get out. Yes, it's very catchy, but it's soooo bad and annoying that no one wants to listen to it again. It's almost disgusting, if I may say. I despise this song. :o
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Post by popmusicaddict on Nov 26, 2007 22:51:35 GMT -5
Overall agree with most of the statements on this page; main points by Mackie, Sweet Soul Odyssey, bl0ndxrebel & Felicia.
I'll further add that I also think they are just getting tired of RCA's formula (yah other labels use it too but not nearly as much as they do) the whole uptempo lead single than instantly ballad then midtempo-ish / uptempo. They like, do it all the time and it becomes too predictable for radio. Further more like the posters above mentioned RCA's wait time is horrendous. If they really are gonna do it that formulatic way they need to act faster if radio loses peak interest in current single. So unless its a DAMN great ballad following a DAMN great uptempo, they (and the audience) will tire of your era quickly IMO.
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Post by P!nkch TheO™ on Nov 26, 2007 23:05:21 GMT -5
Sorry to say but this looks smells like "dead meat" to me!
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Post by Sticky&Sweet™ on Nov 26, 2007 23:17:21 GMT -5
Overall agree with most of the statements on this page; main points by Mackie, Sweet Soul Odyssey, bl0ndxrebel & Felicia. I'll further add that I also think they are just getting tired of RCA's formula (yah other labels use it too but not nearly as much as they do) the whole uptempo lead single than instantly ballad then midtempo-ish / uptempo. They like, do it all the time and it becomes too predictable for radio. Further more like the posters above mentioned RCA's wait time is horrendous. If they really are gonna do it that formulatic way they need to act faster if radio loses peak interest in current single. So unless its a DAMN great ballad following a DAMN great uptempo, they (and the audience) will tire of your era quickly IMO. TBDT era has an eerily similar chart record to B2B. First single being a huge hit.... 2nd single was a ballad that did moderately well, and third single was an uptempo that didn't do as well.
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Post by PergiePerg on Nov 26, 2007 23:29:06 GMT -5
Except ANOM wasn't nearly as big as Girlfriend, and Hot is shaping up to be a bigger failure than Candyman was.
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Post by Chris Ng on Nov 27, 2007 6:11:21 GMT -5
Yea, i think ANOM wasn't a big hit for Xtina. #82 itunes again
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