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Post by pen on Apr 25, 2009 14:07:14 GMT -5
Incubus suuuuucks now! I hate what they've become. bring back the days of S.C.I.E.N.C.E. or even Morning View. enough of these boring songs. SCIENCE is Incubus' worst album.
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Post by fran182 on Apr 25, 2009 15:37:13 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 10 on Mediabase Alternative:
13 9 INCUBUS Black Heart Inertia 1267 1158 109 5.517
68 stations playing.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Apr 26, 2009 16:31:20 GMT -5
I'd put S.C.I.E.N.C.E. as the best album, followed only slightly by Make Yourself. Every other album has been so inconsistent in quality it's almost insane. Some nice singles like Megalomaniac, Anna Molly, and Circles make the recent albums mostly tolerable.
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Post by pen on Apr 26, 2009 16:35:49 GMT -5
Yeah I suppose if you don't songs that are actually interesting and progressive sounding and borrow from a number of styles, Incubus wouldn't be your kind of band.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Apr 26, 2009 16:37:58 GMT -5
They're quite my kind of band. I've seen them live four times that I remember. But they've digressed big time recently.
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Post by pen on Apr 26, 2009 16:45:03 GMT -5
If you think that, then they really weren't your kind of band.
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Apr 26, 2009 18:29:04 GMT -5
Yeah I suppose if you don't songs that are actually interesting and progressive sounding and borrow from a number of styles, Incubus wouldn't be your kind of band. I think S.C.I.E.N.C.E. certainly fits that bill. And while the last two albums may have some musically adventurous tracks, they also have quite a number of songs that I think are rather bland. (This song would also fall into the latter category.) And different doesn't always equal good either... I think some of the experiments on ACLOTM in particular could've been left in the lab. I know Artie's not too popular around here, and I could see why, but I have to agree with him that their last two albums are too inconsistent, not just stylistically but in terms of quality as well. And although Morning View is a very enjoyable album overall with some of their best songs, I still find it to be a bit uneven compared to SCIENCE and Make Yourself. I think those two albums are amazing from top to bottom and just flow together really well. Though I would rank MY ever-so-slightly higher.
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Post by pen on Apr 26, 2009 18:33:30 GMT -5
With very few exceptions like "Summer Romance" and "Deep Inside", a lot of SCIENCE is very straightforward in terms of sound. That was back when they were lumped in with nu-metal because really, a lot of their songs at that point arguably were nu-metal. Don't get me wrong, I love some songs from that like "A Certain Shade Of Green" and "Glass", but overall I find the rest of their output to be far more varied and creative and just overall richer.
I think you're way wrong about Crow, I just listened to that album again not long ago and it's top to bottom a fantastic album. So many great songs on that that should've been singles, but never got a chance. Like "Smile Lines", the title track, "Zee Deveel", "Beware Criminal", "Here In My Room". Great stuff.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 26, 2009 23:25:36 GMT -5
This is one of the very few times that our musical tastes are the exact opposite. I wouldn't say S.C.I.E.N.C.E. is my favorite album song for song, but I like what it represented in Incubus's past. And "Deep Inside" is such an awesome song. And I'm not certain that they've gotten more progressive so much as less metal. Sure they used to be nu-metal, but their sound was revolutionary and interesting when they came out. They were extremely funk-influenced, Make had a very signature guitar style that was at its richest then and on Morning View before moving to a new signature sound that also works very well for him (he also switched guitars from either PRS or Ibanez to Fender and he may have switched amps too). Anyway, I feel like their sound was just as progressive then as it is now, just very different. Nothing will ever touch Make Yourself and Morning View though for me, with SCIENCE at a distant third. I remember being extremely disappointed by Crow, though it's grown on me now.
Are you sure Fungous Amongous isn't your least favorite album by them? Cuz it's easily mine.
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Post by pen on Apr 27, 2009 8:54:20 GMT -5
Alright, I will be completely honest. First of all, I don't really consider Fungus to be part of their discography because nobody seems to like it and I never have and I'll just assume from their Greatest Hits that Incubus doesn't really either. Second off, I will say that my favorite Incubus album is actually Morning View. But I love Crow and Light Grenades in their own way as well. What I don't like is people saying "Oh Incubus got soft" or saying "Oh I wish they'd go back to SCIENCE" because invariably these are the same people who only seem to appreciate music in drop D, and it ticks me off because I think Incubus has created some really great songs in recent years but people just aren't able to appreciate it because they're still stuck on "New Skin" or "A Certain Shade Of Green". It pisses me off, really.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Apr 28, 2009 2:24:34 GMT -5
Alright, I will be completely honest. First of all, I don't really consider Fungus to be part of their discography because nobody seems to like it and I never have and I'll just assume from their Greatest Hits that Incubus doesn't really either. Second off, I will say that my favorite Incubus album is actually Morning View. But I love Crow and Light Grenades in their own way as well. What I don't like is people saying "Oh Incubus got soft" or saying "Oh I wish they'd go back to SCIENCE" because invariably these are the same people who only seem to appreciate music in drop D, and it ticks me off because I think Incubus has created some really great songs in recent years but people just aren't able to appreciate it because they're still stuck on "New Skin" or "A Certain Shade Of Green". It pisses me off, really. I don't really consider Fungus a part of their discography because I've never met anybody who had heard of them before S.C.I.E.N.C.E. Kind of like the way I consider Under the Table and Dreaming to be Dave Matthews Band's first album. And I wasn't one of those people that was into Incubus so much that I ever went back and bought it. I just assumed I'd be disappointed. Make Yourself was such an improvement over S.C.I.E.N.C.E. that I figured going any further back just wouldn't be worth it. I'm sure I've said this plenty over the past few years, but my favorite is Make Yourself, closely followed by Morning View. And that I was considerably disappointed by A Crow Left of the Murder, enough so that I didn't bother to purchase Light Grenades, which I ended up thinking was of equal or lesser value. I'm actually not sure which I prefer between S.C.I.E.N.C.E. and Crow, because I haven't listened to either of them in so long.
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Post by pen on Apr 28, 2009 3:29:41 GMT -5
Crow is an album that grows on you. I didn't like it that much at first myself, but then I grew to appreciate all the intricacies of it. Some songs I liked right away, which helped, and then the rest, after enough listens, gelled with me and I dug it immensely. And now it's one of my favorite albums by them, coming somewhere between Morning View and Make Yourself.
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Post by weaver on Apr 28, 2009 7:49:53 GMT -5
I have to go ahead and disagree about Science being the worst Incubus album. It is very different from the others, but quite good. It's really heavy/hard, but every song has a very catchy hook.
That being said, my favorite Incubus album has got to be Make Yourself. And, Black Heart Inertia....it's good because it's a fresh Incubus track, but it feels like a leftover from Crow or Grenades.
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Post by pen on Apr 28, 2009 10:09:27 GMT -5
Just because something is the worst doesn't mean it's not still good.
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Post by weaver on Apr 29, 2009 10:41:48 GMT -5
Just because something is the worst doesn't mean it's not still good. To me "the worst" implies something is bad. So maybe you all mean it's your least favorite?
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Post by pen on Apr 29, 2009 12:25:00 GMT -5
Well okay, but that doesn't sound as strong or make as effective a point.
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Post by weaver on May 1, 2009 7:40:11 GMT -5
Well what is the point you're trying to make? That you like Science least of all?
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Post by pen on May 1, 2009 12:22:43 GMT -5
Yeah, I thought that was what I was saying.
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Post by @DiegoMarcondes_ on May 4, 2009 20:15:51 GMT -5
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Post by PHOBES on May 18, 2009 19:26:22 GMT -5
I find this somewhat comical:
8 9 INCUBUS Black Heart Inertia 1411 1486 -75 6.003
18 18 INCUBUS Love Hurts 738 716 22 4.906
The song won't die.
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Post by pen on May 18, 2009 19:29:05 GMT -5
It's like radio said, okay, that song was good, give us another one...
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...eh, this song blows, give us the old song back.
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Post by PHOBES on May 18, 2009 19:32:41 GMT -5
I like'em both, but I also like album tracks and b-sides in a lot of cases. I can definitely see why "Love Hurts" would be more accepted at radio.
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Post by singingsparrow on May 18, 2009 19:43:34 GMT -5
For some reason, "Love Hurts" sounds like something the Red Hot Chili Peppers could have written, most fittingly during the "By The Way" era. It's very intimate sounding and is driven by an easy to follow along tempo. And, given the aforementioned band's track record on this format, that can only be a good thing.
"Black Heart Inertia" never sounded like a chart-topping single to me from the first time I listened to it. In fact, it didn't even sound like a sure single candidate to me, if it was an album track on a proper album.
So it's no surprise to me that "Love Hurts" is enjoying longevity like "Dig" had.
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Post by PHOBES on May 18, 2009 19:45:13 GMT -5
^Haha, that's exactly what I was hinting at with my "album track" comment. Thanks for, in a round about way, confirming my argument.
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Post by PHOBES on May 19, 2009 12:01:33 GMT -5
DISC ONE 1. Black Heart Inertia 2. Drive 3. Megalomaniac 4. Anna-Molly 5. Love Hurts 6. Wish You Were Here 7. Warning 8. Stellar 9. Talk Shows On Mute 10. Pardon Me 11. Dig 12. Oil And Water 13. Are You In? 14. Nice To Know You 15. Midnight Swim DISC TWO 1. Neither Of Us Can See 2. Look Alive 3. While All The Vultures Feed 4. Pantomime 5. Anything 6. Punch Drunk 7. Admiration 8. Martini 9. A Certain Shade Of Green (Acoustic) 10. Monuments And Melodies 11. Let’s Go Crazy itunes has the pre-order up already. It also includes three bonus tracks: Pardon Me (Live) Mexico (Live) [Pre-Order Only] Drive (Live) [Pre-Order Only] And the 30 second sample of "Midnight Swim" is sick.
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Post by weaver on May 22, 2009 10:54:55 GMT -5
When does the album drop?
A side note: I thought, when I heard Dig, that it was going to cross over like Drive. I was really disappointed, even though it did well in its genre. Did anyone else think that way? I wasn't a Pulse member then.
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