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Post by pen on May 4, 2009 11:56:10 GMT -5
Strongly doubt this will hit alternative, but they were once an alternative band and it is their first single in six years, coming from their new album Music For Cougars (hilarious), due on July 21st. I for one am really eager to hear what this band sounds like now. And I suppose there is always a chance that nostalgia will prompt a few stations to spin this. Then again, they haven't had a charting alternative single since their breakthrough album, so maybe not.
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Post by American Idiot on May 4, 2009 13:23:28 GMT -5
I'm certainly eager to hear what this sounds like as well as how well it does years after having the huge amount of hits they had in the late 90s and early 00s.
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Post by atlantaboy on May 4, 2009 15:41:06 GMT -5
Wow Sugar Ray doesn't seem very Alternative IMO (or even Rock) unless they've completely switched up their sound...wonderin if songs like Every Morning, Someday, or When It's Over even charted on Alt. (assumin Fly did, but can't think of any others that had a cutting edge sound)
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Post by Physical on May 4, 2009 15:58:09 GMT -5
"Every Morning and "Fly" were #1 Alternative hits for multiple weeks. "Falls Apart" and "Someday" also went Top 10. So they've been quite successful in the past. Anyway, I can't wait to hear this. I love almost all of their singles.
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Post by borlando on May 4, 2009 16:27:52 GMT -5
i have no shame to say i like sugar ray..theyre literally one of the only pop bands i can tolerate. floored and 14:59 are good albums, but the last couple they had were shitty. im interested to hear what they sound like after all these years.
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Post by JCMF3 on May 4, 2009 21:27:09 GMT -5
"Every Morning and "Fly" were #1 Alternative hits for multiple weeks. "Falls Apart" and "Someday" also went Top 10. So they've been quite successful in the past. Anyway, I can't wait to hear this. I love almost all of their singles. You can't compare Alternative Radio today with Alternative radio in the 1990s. Two completely different beasts. |
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Post by crash46 on May 4, 2009 21:51:59 GMT -5
It's true that I don't think it'd spend eight weeks at #1 in today's climate like it did in 1997, but I still think "Fly" would have been a strong breakthrough hit on Alternative in 2009 nonetheless.
The album title alone has me helplessly interested.
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Post by atlantaboy on May 5, 2009 9:09:31 GMT -5
"Every Morning and "Fly" were #1 Alternative hits for multiple weeks. "Falls Apart" and "Someday" also went Top 10. So they've been quite successful in the past. Anyway, I can't wait to hear this. I love almost all of their singles. You can't compare Alternative Radio today with Alternative radio in the 1990s. Two completely different beasts. Yeah agreed...Every Morning and Someday came out just as Linkin Park, Korn, and Limp Bizkit were first hittin radio - pretty sure a lot of Alt. stations started switchin up their playlists within the next year or two (to focus on heavier sound) Fly I could see on today's Alt. radio - the others IMO no way |
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Post by weaver on May 5, 2009 9:41:16 GMT -5
I'm interested to hear this single....I like a lot of the older Sugar Ray stuff....
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Post by Pipa on May 5, 2009 14:16:50 GMT -5
Fly I could see on today's Alt. radio - the others IMO no way You don't think "Falls Apart" could? That one reminds me of Weezer. |
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Post by pen on May 5, 2009 14:20:54 GMT -5
Falls Apart definitely could be on alternative radio. Really I think any of the singles off of 14:59 could still make it on today's alternative, or at least should, but then again alternative radio is a stingy mother.
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Post by Physical on May 5, 2009 16:26:42 GMT -5
"Every Morning and "Fly" were #1 Alternative hits for multiple weeks. "Falls Apart" and "Someday" also went Top 10. So they've been quite successful in the past. Anyway, I can't wait to hear this. I love almost all of their singles. You can't compare Alternative Radio today with Alternative radio in the 1990s. Two completely different beasts. Oh, I wasn't comparing them, I just answered atlantaboy's question. But really, that can be said about any radio format. Radio goes through its phases all the time. Those songs were still #1 hits. That's all that matters. |
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on May 6, 2009 2:53:00 GMT -5
Their first single in six years, coming from their new album Music For Cougars !!! That's hysterically genius! First, they title their "sophomore" album 14:59, knowing they very likely could have gone down in history as one-hit-wonders. Now they've come back after 6 years, very aware of their gold-Hot AC-airplay status. They could've said "secretaries," or the dated term "soccer moms," but they went with "cougars"! If that doesn't plaster a smile across your face and make you say "God bless those guys" and wish them the all best, fan of their music or not, then you're an asshole, plain and simple. I can't think of another band this self-aware of their role in pop music, with such a charming, self-deprecating wit. Not to mention Mark McGrath regularly whipped everybody's ass on Celebrity Rock & Roll Jeopardy. I really enjoyed all their bigger hits over the years, but knew their albums wouldn't have enough depth or replay value to bother checking them out. I mistakenly bought Lemonade & Brownies (real mature, guys  ) 9 years ago out of an "outlet store" sale from a CD club, but it was so inconsistent that it wasn't worth keeping. |
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Post by pen on May 6, 2009 16:07:07 GMT -5
Can be heard here for now. www.radiosophie.com/Sophie-s-Challenge/1758142On first listen, I'm a little disappointed that it's not a return to 14:59 style, but it's at least a decent summer song and picks up pretty much where they left off on their last album. But this is not going to go to alternative, based on the sound of this, it's an obvious pop single. |
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Post by Ron57 on May 6, 2009 17:17:56 GMT -5
Wow, I like it alot for some reason.
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Post by American Idiot on May 6, 2009 17:19:09 GMT -5
I like this, but yeah you're right. It will be lucky to do absolutely anything to Alternative, but I could see this blowing up huge on Hot AC and maybe Pop.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on May 7, 2009 2:33:32 GMT -5
Nothing spectacular, but definitely worth a download.
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Post by atlantaboy on May 10, 2009 12:25:15 GMT -5
Yeah heard it online...I can def. see it on Hot AC, doubt it'll do anything even on CHR though, esp. cause it's almost the same storyline as All Summer Long by KR
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Post by Cody on May 10, 2009 12:40:54 GMT -5
well, its better than both "Mr Bartender (It's So Easy)" and "Is She Really Going Out With Him"
Pretty much their best single since "When It's Over"
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Post by atlantaboy on May 10, 2009 12:45:15 GMT -5
^Yeah agreed...thinkin better chart run on HAC than either of their last two singles - just don't think CHR's gonna take to it though - it's like All Summer Long remade for this summer
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 10, 2009 13:22:24 GMT -5
^Maybe CHR stations will look for it to fill the role of "All Summer Long" and thus play it in much the same way.
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Post by atlantaboy on May 10, 2009 13:32:02 GMT -5
^Maybe CHR stations will look for it to fill the role of "All Summer Long" and thus play it in much the same way. Just that CHR is really sensitive to songs that sound too much like previous hits (unless they're off the same CD, for some reason) - most pop listeners in general would just rather hear All Summer Long replayed than a new song that's kinda similar to it That's kinda why If Today Was Your Last Day and Love Sex Magic are gettin killed over there IMO, and why Won't Go Home Without You flopped on CHR But Hot AC doesn't seem to mind, so power to them over there... |
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on May 10, 2009 19:32:49 GMT -5
wow....i almost hate this more than All Summer Long, and that's saying something. The only time I might like this song, i was floating down a river on a raft with ole huck finn.
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Post by pen on May 10, 2009 19:54:16 GMT -5
wow....i almost hate this more than All Summer Long, and that's saying something. The only time I might like this song, i was floating down a river on a raft with ole huck finn. I can arrange that. I know a guy. |
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on May 10, 2009 19:55:18 GMT -5
wow....i almost hate this more than All Summer Long, and that's saying something. The only time I might like this song, i was floating down a river on a raft with ole huck finn. I can arrange that. I know a guy. (in my best Cartman voice) "hella-sweet" |
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on May 14, 2009 1:29:29 GMT -5
well, its better than both "Mr Bartender (It's So Easy)" and "Is She Really Going Out With Him" Speaking of "Mr. Bartender" (which I always enjoyed just fine), does anyone else feel Sugar Ray tried to follow the No Doubt model of success with that song batting leading off for In Pursuit of Leisure? (If not the whole album? I never heard it.) No Doubt being a poppy "Alternative" band, with a history of a few significant crossover Pop hits who came back leading full-on Pop, Alternative-be-damned in 2001 with "Hey Baby" and subsequent singles to huge results? Only when Sugar Ray tried it, it bombed for some reason. Now you can't tell me that "Hey Baby" is an infinitely better song than "Mr. Bartender." (And I love "Hey Baby," but it had to grow on me.) |
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 14, 2009 13:49:32 GMT -5
I always felt like "Hella Good" woudla done well at alternative at any other time than 2001.
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Post by atlantaboy on May 14, 2009 19:05:15 GMT -5
I always felt like "Hella Good" woudla done well at alternative at any other time than 2001. Yeah maybe even in '01 if they had released it before Hey Baby instead of after (by the time everyone knew their CD was pop not Alt.) |
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Post by singingsparrow on May 14, 2009 22:46:11 GMT -5
well, its better than both "Mr Bartender (It's So Easy)" and "Is She Really Going Out With Him" Speaking of "Mr. Bartender" (which I always enjoyed just fine), does anyone else feel Sugar Ray tried to follow the No Doubt model of success with that song batting leading off for In Pursuit of Leisure? (If not the whole album? I never heard it.) No Doubt being a poppy "Alternative" band, with a history of a few significant crossover Pop hits who came back leading full-on Pop, Alternative-be-damned in 2001 with "Hey Baby" and subsequent singles to huge results? Only when Sugar Ray tried it, it bombed for some reason. Now you can't tell me that "Hey Baby" is an infinitely better song than "Mr. Bartender." (And I love "Hey Baby," but it had to grow on me.) I think No Doubt has prospered on being a band not solely defined by hit singles but also by image, where Gwen Stefani emerged as a sort of inspiring figure for young women particularly who was a frontwoman who enjoyed success in an Alternative band and whose lyrics sound just like something written either consciously or unconsciously in a young Orange County woman's personal journal. Sugar Ray, on the other hand, have never really cared about image, but rather imagery. From 14:59 thereon I think they definitely decided to embrace the quintessential summertime band theme, and focus on writing songs replete with both iconic summertime imagery and sounds that reflect the Southern California lifestyle especially. Same goes with Smash Mouth and why, interestingly enough, Sugar Ray and Smash Mouth have very similar chart histories. Sincerely, Noah Eaton |
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Post by singingsparrow on May 14, 2009 22:47:15 GMT -5
I always felt like "Hella Good" woudla done well at alternative at any other time than 2001. I agree, especially when we have just seen the Ting Tings make a modest impact here as of late with two singles. Sincerely, Noah Eaton |
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