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Post by djfallingupg on Jun 3, 2009 20:13:36 GMT -5
Does anybody know if there's another site with Christian Rock radio airplay charts..... If not, then this is a very sad day for me. I love those charts, I look at them every day :'( :'( :'( I know! This TOTALLY screws up my whole agenda... :( :'( I don't know what I'll do without Christian charts. The Billboard one DOES NOT cut it for me. Plus, I used all of the charts to keep up with mainstream music... Guess my music collection of non-Country/Christian will begin to dwindle. :( The extremely sad reality is that this messes with my life soooo much.  :'( Yeah! It's sad, but losing the new charts every week will totally change my life.... lol but at the same time :'( :'( |
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Post by johnm1120 on Jun 3, 2009 21:06:04 GMT -5
There was some book that was published that I received a copy from, and I also got the 13 week subscription as well.
Now that I think about it, did anyone else who has received R&R in the past get a letter from Billboard regarding subscription packages. I wonder if R&R shutting down may have caused that if I was in their database.
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Post by Chromeozone on Jun 3, 2009 21:13:31 GMT -5
WHAT! :O Just rip away my childhood, why don'tcha! (Not that I've actually been to the R&R website in years....but still  ) |
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Post by mst3k on Jun 3, 2009 21:28:17 GMT -5
Lol @ the chart book. I forgot about that. I cant believe they actually sent us all that chart info and we put it in Excel. Did we even get anything for it? I dont remember. :/ I got a short subscription to R&R (three months I think? or maybe it was six?). Plus I got to keep the year-end charts that I input. Edit: Yeah, it was a 13-week subscription (like John got), and the expanded 30th anniversary issue happened to fall during that time so I got that included. |
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Post by friday on Jun 3, 2009 21:47:39 GMT -5
Can't really say anything that hasn't already been said. I discovered R&R when I was sniffing around the internet for that particular week's American Top 40 chart back in 2001, which was where I discovered the charts and the message board. It'd be interesting if someone could compile an "all-time" chart for at least the pop chart to see what the top songs were in the history of the magazine (of course weighting the pre-PPW charting a little more heavily to even things out). It's something I'm sure I could do given the downtime I'm experiencing, if the enormity of the project didn't discourage me into laziness. |
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Post by ZAYN on Jun 3, 2009 21:49:33 GMT -5
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Post by Battle601 on Jun 3, 2009 22:01:44 GMT -5
Wow, this is very unfortunate. I've been keeping track of several charts on R&R (Canada Top 40, Canada Hot AC, US CHR/Top 40, US Hot AC, Canada Rock, Canada AC) since April 2007 and saving them on to file. This came weeks before I discovered Mediabase.
Every Wednesday, I would always look forward to visiting the site because the charts are updated by lunchtime. I would often browse the Canadian Top 40 and Hot AC charts which each list the Top 50 songs.
Upon hearing this news, I still have today's charts from those six formats in an open window, but I can no longer save them on to a file. Even the cached pages are not helpful since they go back to last week's charts, and I doubt that they'll be able to restore the last ones from today since the website shut down a few hours after they were posted.
So I'm left with no choice now to take all the information and copy them onto Word, but even the presentation sucks. Instead, I'm creating tables and typing up the statistics from those charts while making sure to keep those windows open - once I close them, those charts are gone for good.
Man, this just completely bites. That means one less thing to look forward to on Wednesdays. :(
That leaves me with the Top 100 Canadian Radio Airplay Chart on Canoe, the Canadian Hot 100 chart and of course, daily updates on All Access.
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Post by jmason on Jun 3, 2009 22:29:12 GMT -5
R&R website shutdown, hmmmm, that explains why I couldn't get the going for adds pages to work. They must of shut it down as I was looking at the charts because everything was just fine until I went to the pages where it shows whats going for adds in each format and then their website wouldn't work. I thought it was just a temp. problem.
But yeah cheacking R&R on weds has been apart of my life since around 2002. I always like R&R just because it showed spin count and stuff. Ohh well now...
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Post by Edf85 on Jun 3, 2009 22:48:03 GMT -5
Lol @ the chart book. I forgot about that. I cant believe they actually sent us all that chart info and we put it in Excel. Did we even get anything for it? I dont remember. :/ I got a short subscription to R&R (three months I think? or maybe it was six?). Plus I got to keep the year-end charts that I input. Edit: Yeah, it was a 13-week subscription (like John got), and the expanded 30th anniversary issue happened to fall during that time so I got that included. Oh yeah. I remember the subscription we got. But didnt we have to like fight for it basically :/ rofl. |
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Post by rfucom on Jun 3, 2009 23:02:26 GMT -5
fuckin economy!
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Post by JCMF3 on Jun 3, 2009 23:39:14 GMT -5
No more Christian CHR charts!!! :'( On a more serious tone, I am one of those "original" R&R board members who found my way over to R&R in 1998 and then joined the forums like 2 years later on the site. So many great memories. I remember waiting every Friday for the charts to see if my favorite song at the time was moving up. Then, when we found Mediabase lists online, it just grew more crazy! I also remember the first time I posted the "Sans Recurrent Rules" chart for AC and called it the "Real AC Chart." Anyways, my visits to R&R grew less over the years except starting in 2004 I checked it regularly for the Christian charts since Mediabase didn't carry those. But I did occasionally still visit... RIP Radio & Records. You will be sorely missed. :'( |
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Post by gin on Jun 4, 2009 0:10:55 GMT -5
Are the previous R&R charts archived anywhere?
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Post by CookyMonzta on Jun 4, 2009 1:28:35 GMT -5
I remember Cash Box shutting down in 1996. Up until about 1986 it was a legitimate alternative to Billboard. Then they started cutting corners and getting a bit sloppy.
There was a time when HITS had a magazine. Their album charts seemed to have more legitimacy than Billboard back in the 1980s and 1990s. I don't know if the magazine still exists, although they have their HITS Daily Double site going.
Billboard has been getting sloppy themselves, never maintaining consistency even while they tweak their charts for new media formats. I collected Billboard's charts from 1990 until 2003, and stopped when it became apparent that they kept changing the rules as they went along. They stopped maintaining a single standard policy for each of their charts, and it became a magazine of anything goes.
I will not be surprised if they crumble within the next decade, and a site like Mediabase becomes the premier chart for airplay tracking, and SoundScan considers severing their ties with Billboard and commits ALL of their sales data to HITS Daily Double.
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Post by robrt30 on Jun 4, 2009 10:55:04 GMT -5
I will not be surprised if they crumble within the next decade, and a site like Mediabase becomes the premier chart for airplay tracking, and SoundScan considers severing their ties with Billboard and commits ALL of their sales data to HITS Daily Double. Wow...now THAT would be a huge curveball! I was thinking how long before Billboard tries to takeover All Access, too? (if they haven't already tried looking into it). I discovered Billboard back when I was a kid in '88 or '89 or so. However, I was already hooked on the radio countdown shows a few years before then (which were R&R's charts). Once I fully learned to understand the difference between the two, my allegiance was always with R&R (pre-Billboard merger, of course). R.I.P. R&R...you will be missed! :'( |
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Post by Mike Schwartz on Jun 4, 2009 11:43:54 GMT -5
I remember Cash Box shutting down in 1996. Up until about 1986 it was a legitimate alternative to Billboard. Then they started cutting corners and getting a bit sloppy. There was a time when HITS had a magazine. Their album charts seemed to have more legitimacy than Billboard back in the 1980s and 1990s. I don't know if the magazine still exists, although they have their HITS Daily Double site going. Billboard has been getting sloppy themselves, never maintaining consistency even while they tweak their charts for new media formats. I collected Billboard's charts from 1990 until 2003, and stopped when it became apparent that they kept changing the rules as they went along. They stopped maintaining a single standard policy for each of their charts, and it became a magazine of anything goes. I will not be surprised if they crumble within the next decade, and a site like Mediabase becomes the premier chart for airplay tracking, and SoundScan considers severing their ties with Billboard and commits ALL of their sales data to HITS Daily Double. Cookymonzta articulates my main beef with the Billboard Charts for the past 15 or so years. When I first took out a BB sub in the early 80s, the Hot 100 reflected most mainstream CHR stations and 80% or so of the AC outlets nationwide. They seem to have lost focus in the early 90s and continued to reinvent themselves right up until the present day. Even the creation of the Pop 100 chart, doesn't always reflect mass appeal hits-popular songs, yes, but not mass appeal hits. According to the Hot 100, some of the biggest hits of the 90s, simply never occured because they weren't released as singles, like Don't Speak, Love Fool, Mr. Jones and until the Dec 98 revision of the criteria, Iris-possibly the top hit of the decade. I am just grateful to have All Access, because you can treak their charts and study what is being played regionally, nationally, by format etc with a simple point and click-clearly the dominant source from here on in. |
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Post by musicfanpete on Jun 4, 2009 12:33:59 GMT -5
Wow, this is very unfortunate. I've been keeping track of several charts on R&R (Canada Top 40, Canada Hot AC, US CHR/Top 40, US Hot AC, Canada Rock, Canada AC) since April 2007 and saving them on to file. This came weeks before I discovered Mediabase. Every Wednesday, I would always look forward to visiting the site because the charts are updated by lunchtime. I would often browse the Canadian Top 40 and Hot AC charts which each list the Top 50 songs. Upon hearing this news, I still have today's charts from those six formats in an open window, but I can no longer save them on to a file. Even the cached pages are not helpful since they go back to last week's charts, and I doubt that they'll be able to restore the last ones from today since the website shut down a few hours after they were posted. So I'm left with no choice now to take all the information and copy them onto Word, but even the presentation sucks. Instead, I'm creating tables and typing up the statistics from those charts while making sure to keep those windows open - once I close them, those charts are gone for good. Man, this just completely bites. That means one less thing to look forward to on Wednesdays. :( That leaves me with the Top 100 Canadian Radio Airplay Chart on Canoe, the Canadian Hot 100 chart and of course, daily updates on All Access. This definately is a sad situation, but I guess we have to find other outlets to get these charts. Billboard only posts the top 20 of the Hot AC, that is unless you shell out $20 a month to access the complete chart. Thank god for Mediabase! Would it be possible for you to send me a copy of the Hot AC charts from 4/07 onward? I had started collecting the R&R Hot AC chart since they began being posted last August on these boards. Let me know. |
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Jun 4, 2009 14:09:23 GMT -5
Also for this board as well as Pulse originated after the R&R boards shut down in 2003 and some of its original members are still around here today. Yep, R&R brought us all together and I'm still here! |
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Post by blaiseantoine on Jun 5, 2009 3:02:07 GMT -5
oh my god how can i do without the charts i'm addicted to.... ? i'm very sad for this and i cannot accept the fact that here in europe would be a very expensive thang a subscription to billboard ,its a very disappointing thing to know how the bad economy situation could affect the american image in the world
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jun 5, 2009 9:52:03 GMT -5
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Post by top30countdown on Jun 5, 2009 10:30:06 GMT -5
Two questions:
(1) Does anyone know if there will still be a Mainstream Top 40 recurrent chart?
(2) Does AllAcess only do rolling charts, or can I view a chart for week-ending Sunday later in the week?
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Post by Cerebro on Jun 5, 2009 11:18:57 GMT -5
Two questions: (1) Does anyone know if there will still be a Mainstream Top 40 recurrent chart? No idea. There isn't one on Billboard, now. Billboard claims that airplay charts from R&R will be added to their magazine. Whether or not (a) they'll be added to the web site and (b) be free to access is anyone's guess. Yes, Sunday's final update is available on the site for the entire week. When you go to the Mediabase link and select the chart you want to view, just click "published" instead of "rolling". |
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jun 5, 2009 12:08:03 GMT -5
Billboard claims that airplay charts from R&R will be added to their magazine. If that's true, then I would appreciate if someone with a billboard.biz subscription would kindly provide me with the Canadian country charts if they become available. |
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Post by at40forever on Jun 5, 2009 12:46:33 GMT -5
I'm blaming all of this on the current economic downturn. Why else would they doing this? >:( >:( >:(
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Post by arttrend on Jun 5, 2009 13:44:43 GMT -5
 for those looking for a valid alternative of the R&R charts, please check these charts from AMC. americasmusiccharts.com/I have been checking these next to R&R for a long time and there were hardly any differences. Too bad they apply to f&*king recurrent rule too and don't have recurrents listed separately. Nevertheless friends: here's your valid alternative !!!! Arttrend 
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Post by djfallingupg on Jun 5, 2009 14:04:54 GMT -5
Dang It!!! No other site I check has Christian rock Charts!!!!! >:(
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Post by S4C on Jun 5, 2009 16:19:29 GMT -5
I'm blaming all of this on the current economic downturn. Why else would they doing this? >:( >:( >:( To get more subscribers to Billboard who would usually just get their information free of charge from R&R? Though I suppose a desire for money could be attributed to the downturn of the economy... |
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Post by tico on Jun 6, 2009 0:20:47 GMT -5
This is sad. I was pretty much a casual follower of R&R, but I hate to see it go. Plus, as has been pointed out, many of us here now are veterans of the old R&R message board. The message boards being gone did hurt, but this hurts even more. It's like a girlfriend who breaks up with you and wants to retain a friendship, until she decides she doesn't want to be friends with you anymore.
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Post by S. Carter on Jun 6, 2009 14:20:46 GMT -5
Does anybody know if there's another site with Christian Rock radio airplay charts..... If not, then this is a very sad day for me. I love those charts, I look at them every day :'( :'( :'( I know! This TOTALLY screws up my whole agenda... :( :'( I don't know what I'll do without Christian charts. The Billboard one DOES NOT cut it for me. Plus, I used all of the charts to keep up with mainstream music... Guess my music collection of non-Country/Christian will begin to dwindle. :( The extremely sad reality is that this messes with my life soooo much. :'( I know. I used R&R to look up airplay stats on the Gospel charts. :'( What can I use now? |
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Jun 6, 2009 14:50:37 GMT -5
Anybody got a source for station playlists now?
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Post by Battle601 on Jun 6, 2009 15:04:34 GMT -5
This definately is a sad situation, but I guess we have to find other outlets to get these charts. Billboard only posts the top 20 of the Hot AC, that is unless you shell out $20 a month to access the complete chart. Thank god for Mediabase! Would it be possible for you to send me a copy of the Hot AC charts from 4/07 onward? I had started collecting the R&R Hot AC chart since they began being posted last August on these boards. Let me know. Unfortunately, the charts from April 2007 until now were mainly the Canadian radio formats. It was only since late May last year that I started keeping copies of the charts for both U.S. Hot AC and Top 40, so at the very least, I can provide 2-3 months worth of charts. |
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