bibliotheque
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Post by bibliotheque on Sept 15, 2009 15:37:24 GMT -5
Exactly, there's only 3 names there and one is debatable. GaGa is a hell of a lot better than most stars and is one of the best out there right now. I don't know where you're getting the idea that she's crap and can't sing decently from ??? Freedomtime is right, she doesn't sing EXCEPTIONALLY well nor dances EXCEPTIONALLY well, but I agree with you, she's one of the best performers out there right now, and all around she's more talented than most, and I won't say no names. By the way, which of the 3 names is debatable? ??? Beyonce doesn't dance exceptionally. I don't think this is a bad thing, her strength lies in her voice and she's extremely talented but aparantly you have to sing, dance and prerform exceptionally.
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neally
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Post by neally on Sept 15, 2009 15:48:08 GMT -5
I am not in anyway a Lady Gaga fan, but her theatre-like storyline, her dancing, and her expression were truly impressive for such a newbie, well a very eccentric one at least. That single performance is converting me into a fan of her music, a style of which is not my favourite historically
Without a doubt, she will be around for a while.
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Post by Dammn Baby on Sept 15, 2009 15:49:09 GMT -5
Ridiculous that people are saying she did not sing exceptionally. I don't care if you don't like her voice or not, but every note was the right one that she sang. She switched it up a bit, but it all fit into the chords. It was exceptionally sung. That's not an opinion. Whether you like her voice or not, is. This. The vocals were wonderful.
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Post by shanz88 on Sept 15, 2009 16:54:01 GMT -5
The discussion of this performance reminds me...does anyone happen to have a decent mp3 of the performance?
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Post by ₫anny Jerz ♔ on Sept 15, 2009 17:02:59 GMT -5
People can hate on her all they want (I'm sure she loves it as long as people are talking) and try to discredit her all they want but nothing is going to take away the fact that she is leaving her mark on pop culture in a big way. She's a bright, savvy woman who knows how to entertain the public through her over-the-top antics.
While polarizing, she remains one of the most exciting new artists that I can think of in recent years. She dares to be bold and different and pretentious; some people get it while others don't. One thing that is indisputable is her talent and the fact that she knows how to attract attention. I love her for it. Keep the crazy coming Gaga.
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Post by Mic Technique on Sept 15, 2009 17:05:56 GMT -5
The Jester ate the Queen alive before the latter even took the stage, I'm afraid. HA! You must be as batsh*t crazy as that little sideshow if you believe that. Or perhaps I can see past Beyonce's thunder thighs. You tell me. :) It's almost common knowledge I loathe this mutant but, for once, her shock value fell right into place. In fact, she proved to be quite entertaining all throughout the ceremony. But then she spoke. Ridiculous that people are saying she did not sing exceptionally. I don't care if you don't like her voice or not, but every note was the right one that she sang. She switched it up a bit, but it all fit into the chords. It was exceptionally sung. That's not an opinion. Whether you like her voice or not, is.
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Post by mew2 on Sept 15, 2009 17:13:37 GMT -5
Freedomtime is right, she doesn't sing EXCEPTIONALLY well nor dances EXCEPTIONALLY well, but I agree with you, she's one of the best performers out there right now, and all around she's more talented than most, and I won't say no names. By the way, which of the 3 names is debatable? ??? Beyonce doesn't dance exceptionally.I don't think this is a bad thing, her strength lies in her voice and she's extremely talented but aparantly you have to sing, dance and prerform exceptionally. :o Excuse me? Have you ever gone to see her live? Plus she keeps getting even better every year! Are you suggesting that Pink dances better? ??? And B4L2, I wasn't talking about yesterday's performance in particular. She sang very well. What I'm saying is that she is not a wonderful vocalist, in general terms: she is a good vocalist (above today's average) but not a wonderful one. And that's not an opinion, that is objective, whether you like her voice (which I do) or not!
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Post by Haley on Sept 15, 2009 17:14:38 GMT -5
Lady GaGa is wonderful to me. haha I cannot wait to see her live in December!
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Post by ₫anny Jerz ♔ on Sept 15, 2009 19:11:31 GMT -5
Overtakes the few songs ahead of it (including BEP) and reaches #2 on iTunes. Expect another - 4th consecutive - Hot 100 hit for Gaga.
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Post by Where will Mimi be? on Sept 15, 2009 19:28:47 GMT -5
Overtakes the few songs ahead of it (including BEP) and reaches #2 on iTunes. Expect another - 4th consecutive - Hot 100 hit for Gaga. Do you think this will be top 10 in two weeks on bb hot 100 or maybe top 4? Or number one? My God the vma have done wonders for everyone except Perez Hilton he looked awful!
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Post by JayBoozer on Sept 15, 2009 19:32:18 GMT -5
Beyonce doesn't dance exceptionally.I don't think this is a bad thing, her strength lies in her voice and she's extremely talented but aparantly you have to sing, dance and prerform exceptionally. :o Excuse me? Have you ever gone to see her live? Plus she keeps getting even better every year! Are you suggesting that Pink dances better? ??? And B4L2, I wasn't talking about yesterday's performance in particular. She sang very well. What I'm saying is that she is not a wonderful vocalist, in general terms: she is a good vocalist (above today's average) but not a wonderful one. And that's not an opinion, that is objective, whether you like her voice (which I do) or not! Please check out that youtube clip of her performing Poker Face in Tokyo that I posted a page back again and let me know if you change your opinion about what kind of vocalist she is.
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Post by JayBoozer on Sept 15, 2009 19:33:09 GMT -5
Also I can't believe this is already #2 on iTunes :o.
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Post by Where will Mimi be? on Sept 15, 2009 19:35:13 GMT -5
Also I can't believe this is already #2 on iTunes :o. The vma effect is very amazing....for singles ......and this is Ga Ga 's year i only wish she would dump Perez hanger on.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Sept 15, 2009 19:43:58 GMT -5
#2 on Itunes is pretty good for someone who received absolutely no attention and no one cared about her or even remembered that she was there. Oh wait....
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Post by mew2 on Sept 15, 2009 20:40:06 GMT -5
:o Excuse me? Have you ever gone to see her live? Plus she keeps getting even better every year! Are you suggesting that Pink dances better? ??? And B4L2, I wasn't talking about yesterday's performance in particular. She sang very well. What I'm saying is that she is not a wonderful vocalist, in general terms: she is a good vocalist (above today's average) but not a wonderful one. And that's not an opinion, that is objective, whether you like her voice (which I do) or not! Please check out that youtube clip of her performing Poker Face in Tokyo that I posted a page back again and let me know if you change your opinion about what kind of vocalist she is. :o That is a beautiful performance, there is no way I can't take that away from you! Thank you! But I stick to my opinion. She hit them notes, she wasn't out of tune, she showcased her beautiful timbre... in short: the performance demonstrate she is a good vocalist, better than the average, sure, but she's definitely not a wonderful one. I don't mean to be rude, but maybe in today's world, with so many pop stars who can barely sing, her vocals really stand out! All in all, I think GaGa is very talented, and I'm happy she has arrived into the superstardom. Something tells me she won't be leaving any time soon, so we better like her!
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Post by JayBoozer on Sept 15, 2009 21:25:37 GMT -5
Please check out that youtube clip of her performing Poker Face in Tokyo that I posted a page back again and let me know if you change your opinion about what kind of vocalist she is. :o That is a beautiful performance, there is no way I can't take that away from you! Thank you! But I stick to my opinion. She hit them notes, she wasn't out of tune, she showcased her beautiful timbre... in short: the performance demonstrate she is a good vocalist, better than the average, sure, but she's definitely not a wonderful one. I don't mean to be rude, but maybe in today's world, with so many pop stars who can barely sing, her vocals really stand out! All in all, I think GaGa is very talented, and I'm happy she has arrived into the superstardom. Something tells me she won't be leaving any time soon, so we better like her! I mean yeah, she's no Andrea Bocelli... but she has incredible versatility in her voice and comes up with very unique vocal runs harmonies, and arrangements of her own songs. You may not LIKE her voice but she is very skilled in how she uses it. I'm glad you liked the performance i suggested :)
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neally
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Post by neally on Sept 15, 2009 21:27:57 GMT -5
:o That is a beautiful performance, there is no way I can't take that away from you! Thank you! But I stick to my opinion. She hit them notes, she wasn't out of tune, she showcased her beautiful timbre... in short: the performance demonstrate she is a good vocalist, better than the average, sure, but she's definitely not a wonderful one. I don't mean to be rude, but maybe in today's world, with so many pop stars who can barely sing, her vocals really stand out! All in all, I think GaGa is very talented, and I'm happy she has arrived into the superstardom. Something tells me she won't be leaving any time soon, so we better like her! I mean yeah, she's no Andrea Bocelli... but she has incredible versatility in her voice and comes up with very unique vocal runs harmonies, and arrangements of her own songs. You may not LIKE her voice but she is very skilled in how she uses it. I'm glad you liked the performance i suggested :) 100% agree !
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 15, 2009 21:53:30 GMT -5
Okay, maybe I'm alone in thinking there were a couple notes where she was out. To my ears there were a couple spots where she wasn't *right* in the centre of the note. Not saying she was way off because she wasn't but for me, there were moments where she went a tad sharp.
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Post by Cody on Sept 15, 2009 22:11:37 GMT -5
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Sept 15, 2009 22:20:43 GMT -5
There were moments she went off, but she fixed them right away. She's a true pro, and the moments were few and far between and not frequent at all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2009 22:31:55 GMT -5
i think this music industry would have people like leona lewis and taylor swift.the range of their vocal are different but they have a lot to offer in their own terms.
i used to think that big pipes singer is real singer and should be successful artist but now i think otherwise.
as long as the artist able to sing live and hit the right notes,and able to covey the emotion of the song,i would say that artist is good.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Sept 15, 2009 22:39:53 GMT -5
Incredible vocal talent is extremely rare. Everybody expects anybody with a record deal to have a huge, booming voice, but that's not always the case. In fact, it's almost never the case, but they all can sing. If you can sing and hit the right notes, you are a good singer. Again, there's a huge difference between having an incredible voice and being a good singer.
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Post by dcowboy77 on Sept 15, 2009 23:13:52 GMT -5
Separated at birth: gaga & kenny from south park: [/quote]
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2009 23:13:54 GMT -5
Incredible vocal talent is extremely rare. Everybody expects anybody with a record deal to have a huge, booming voice, but that's not always the case. In fact, it's almost never the case, but they all can sing. If you can sing and hit the right notes, you are a good singer. Again, there's a huge difference between having an incredible voice and being a good singer. i wonder that people like leona lewis/christina aguilera/whitney houston/celine dion/mariah carey are gifted when they were born or they practised until they get this big voice??? i wonder why the industry never hired those people who have bigger booming voice to be artist and represent the company?they can still hire some people like lady gaga or taylor but leona lewis type is really less these days.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2009 23:14:58 GMT -5
Separated at birth: gaga & kenny from south park: [/quote] :o oh my god,lady gaga is lady gaga and never fail to impress me with her design.
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Post by when the pawn... on Sept 15, 2009 23:17:49 GMT -5
But range and power is not all that makes a good/great vocalist. Conveying emotion is probably priority #1, IMO, and that makes, IMO, someone like Amy Winehouse a better vocalist than Leona Lewis, despite a smaller range.
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Post by Juanca on Sept 15, 2009 23:34:13 GMT -5
I LOVE that Gaga's performance. Along with Pink, Lady is the best entertainer right now... although this time I liked Lady the most for all what she conveyed in her performance: good vocals, good dance and excellent storyline/production. The best musical moment of the VMAs (the best overall moment for me is still Madonna's speech -- she made me cry )
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2009 23:38:09 GMT -5
But range and power is not all that makes a good/great vocalist. Conveying emotion is probably priority #1, IMO, and that makes, IMO, someone like Amy Winehouse a better vocalist than Leona Lewis, despite a smaller range. i never heard amy winehouse sing but i do agree leona only sings ballads most of the time.leona seldom sings midtempo or uptempo.
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Post by Kii on Sept 16, 2009 1:08:05 GMT -5
I love her soo much right now.
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Post by Rεvôlvεr† on Sept 16, 2009 1:18:51 GMT -5
#2 on iTunes is amazing! Damn, she might have to just release another single after this!
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