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Post by WotUNeed on Sept 11, 2009 12:22:42 GMT -5
Umm, Labor Day shouldn't be effecting radio anymore. If you notice, none of the other formats seem to be in a slump right now, or at least not nearly as much as Alt. Just look at Active, there's about 20 songs in the top 40 with bullets there. Other formats do their own programming on Labor Day that will influence just how much they're affected, but most formats are, in fact, showing some impact. The chart is a seven-day rolling chart, so that's how long LD will show an effect.
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Post by metalfan87 on Sept 11, 2009 12:55:08 GMT -5
Umm, Labor Day shouldn't be effecting radio anymore. If you notice, none of the other formats seem to be in a slump right now, or at least not nearly as much as Alt. Just look at Active, there's about 20 songs in the top 40 with bullets there. Other formats do their own programming on Labor Day that will influence just how much they're affected, but most formats are, in fact, showing some impact. The chart is a seven-day rolling chart, so that's how long LD will show an effect. look at the alternative chart for today. I'm like, what is this?
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Sept 11, 2009 16:52:20 GMT -5
lol only 5 songs increased spins over last 7 rolling days.....did a few of the alt stations burn down???
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Post by metalfan87 on Sept 11, 2009 17:03:53 GMT -5
lol only 5 songs increased spins over last 7 rolling days.....did a few of the alt stations burn down??? idk. back to the song: Music video will premiere this coming Monday
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Sept 12, 2009 2:13:20 GMT -5
The difference is I love Good Charlotte and find Three Days Grace to be pretty average. Plus they didn't come up through the Warped Tour ranks. Well all the more reason to anticipate it, no? Maybe it could help you really get into and enjoy a TDG track, you never know. When I hear it, I'll be prone to like it, but on paper, it's A7X moving further away from their roots and palling around more with current radio-rock peers that otherwise have little in common musically besides "hard rock." They don't really have very many mainstream peers capable of expanding their audience beyond the converted, though, so by and large, their tour mates have never really fit them very well, in my humble opinion. You don't think Shadows is raspy? No. Not at all. He's extremely nasal, but he doesn't have any kind of rasp to his voice that I can tell. He can be nasal. More often than raspy, I'll give you that. But I've totally heard some rasp in his voice in certain songs.
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Post by gerry on Sept 12, 2009 3:52:04 GMT -5
Phobia, I really think this has to do with Break being out on the radio for only a week compared to a couple weeks for BB's single. I'm sure in the long run 3DG's single will out sell BB's single.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Sept 12, 2009 14:29:13 GMT -5
Umm, Labor Day shouldn't be effecting radio anymore. If you notice, none of the other formats seem to be in a slump right now, or at least not nearly as much as Alt. Just look at Active, there's about 20 songs in the top 40 with bullets there. The effects of Labor Day will show on the Alt (and other charts) until after this Monday because the rolling charts are compiled over the past 7 days, which of course includes last weekend when everything gets played less(which I've never quite understood, don't you think people who have time off might be listening to music on the radio). Anyways, alternative won't look normal again until Tuesday most likely. Right now there is only 7 or 8 bullleted songs and of those only two are bulleted higher than 25. If Tuesday comes and it still looks like this then there might be something really worth exploring about what's going on with Alt radio.
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Post by PHOBES on Sept 12, 2009 15:31:19 GMT -5
Based on some clips, I think it's sad that this seems like it could be a "highlight" of the album. "World So Cold" sounds awesome, that's about it IMO.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Sept 12, 2009 19:41:44 GMT -5
I think without hearing the album in its entirety (or even the songs) it's a little early to have a judgement on the whole.
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Post by aTunes on Sept 12, 2009 19:43:58 GMT -5
I think without hearing the album in its entirety (or even the songs) it's a little early to have a judgement on the whole. Yeah, I didn't like Break much from the clip, but once I heard it in full, I loved it. So I'll wait to hear full songs. Also their albums have always had to grow on me. I didn't like either their debut, nor One-X nearly as much initially, as I eventually ended up liking.
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Post by PHOBES on Sept 12, 2009 21:52:43 GMT -5
I think without hearing the album in its entirety (or even the songs) it's a little early to have a judgement on the whole. Which is why I prefaced with "Based on some clips."
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Sept 13, 2009 1:41:51 GMT -5
Then why would you make a post "based on some clips" claiming that this could be a highlight and make it sound like a bad thing. Just because you prefaced with that doesn't mean you didn't make a judgement. Honestly I'm not trying to knock you but don't try to explain it, you put it out there. I'm just saying that, I personally, wouldn't base anything on a few clips, whereas you posted that you have an early judgement based on what you have heard. Sometimes people need to shut off the defence mechanism.
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Post by gerry on Sept 13, 2009 14:06:37 GMT -5
I don't get why this isn't doing better on iTunes. Break will debut on the BH100 but not as high as I had hoped. Well at least it's Top 20 in all formats.
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Post by PHOBES on Sept 13, 2009 14:15:37 GMT -5
Then why would you make a post "based on some clips" claiming that this could be a highlight and make it sound like a bad thing. Just because you prefaced with that doesn't mean you didn't make a judgement. Honestly I'm not trying to knock you but don't try to explain it, you put it out there. I'm just saying that, I personally, wouldn't base anything on a few clips, whereas you posted that you have an early judgement based on what you have heard. Sometimes people need to shut off the defence mechanism. I said that "Based on some clips" it "seems" like it'll be a highlight. That's hardly passing judgment.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Sept 13, 2009 16:26:46 GMT -5
The effects of Labor Day will show on the Alt charts until after this Monday because the rolling charts are compiled over the past 7 days, which of course includes last weekend when everything gets played less (which I've never quite understood, don't you think people who have time off might be listening to music on the radio). Well yeah, but that's exactly why my local Alt station, for example, spent the weekend playing the "Top 500 songs of the '90s." (Which they also did a year ago, in a slightly different order .) Because if you've got long weekends centered around a major holiday, you often need to make special programming, something engaging that's different from typical rotation.
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Post by metalfan87 on Sept 13, 2009 16:47:50 GMT -5
MUSIC VIDEO IS UP NOW ON YAHOO!!!
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Post by gerry on Sept 13, 2009 17:10:03 GMT -5
MUSIC VIDEO IS UP NOW ON YAHOO!!! link? I just went on yahoo and it's not there.
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Post by metalfan87 on Sept 13, 2009 17:14:11 GMT -5
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Post by gerry on Sept 13, 2009 18:02:22 GMT -5
Thanks... the video is ok.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Sept 13, 2009 21:22:36 GMT -5
Then why would you make a post "based on some clips" claiming that this could be a highlight and make it sound like a bad thing. Just because you prefaced with that doesn't mean you didn't make a judgement. Honestly I'm not trying to knock you but don't try to explain it, you put it out there. I'm just saying that, I personally, wouldn't base anything on a few clips, whereas you posted that you have an early judgement based on what you have heard. Sometimes people need to shut off the defence mechanism. I said that "Based on some clips" it "seems" like it'll be a highlight. That's hardly passing judgment. I can't believe you are still defending this. Okay so I accept what you said. Now though, I have lost a touch of respect for anything you post because you won't even stand behind what you said. Either you need to elaborate what you are posting or just backbone up and stand behind what you say. It's not even a bad thing what you posted, all I said was that I (me, personally, not you) would wait to pass judgement. I didn't say you were wrong for making your assertion but now you fold like a cheap tent when there wasn't even an argument in the first place. You made a statement about what you felt. Good on you. Don't back track it. You can reserve the right to change your mind later when you do hear the whole thing but don't try to tell me that you didn't make the exact statement you did. I'm not going to talk about this anymore, I'm just saying when you post something, don't get your panties in a bunch when someone says something that's different than you and don't try to "spin" what you said. When you say you're sad that this could be the highlight, you are inferring you don't care as much for this song but even worse, that there isn't much better coming IYO. You have every right to that opinion....but have the balls to stand behind it.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Sept 13, 2009 21:55:17 GMT -5
Top 20 on Alternative:
30 20 THREE DAYS GRACE Break 771 403 368 3.871
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Post by PHOBES on Sept 13, 2009 23:29:17 GMT -5
I said that "Based on some clips" it "seems" like it'll be a highlight. That's hardly passing judgment. I have lost a touch of respect for anything you post because you won't even stand behind what you said... You fold like a cheap tent when there wasn't even an argument in the first place... Don't back track it... Don't try to tell me that you didn't make the exact statement you did... ....but have the balls to stand behind it. What the heck are you talking about? lol. I haven't "back tracked" or taken back a single word of what I said. I just clarified so you wouldn't think I was passing judgment on the album. I did the opposite of folding...I reiterated my original statement because you misinterpreted it. I legitimately don't understand where you're pulling this retreating crap from. "I have lost a touch of respect for anything you post because you won't even stand behind what you said" This makes no sense to me, especially since I'm still not planning on taking anything back. Not until I hear the album anyway. No, I don't like the new single. And based on the album clips on amazon the only song that sounds promising is "World So Cold" and maybe "Last to Know." That is all, take it or leave it.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Sept 13, 2009 23:46:21 GMT -5
You didn't need to reiterate anything, I got what you said and not for a second did I misinterpret what you said. I just don't know why felt you needed to clarify that it was "based on clips", I can read and understood it perfectly fine.
And for the record, you did "pass judgement", that's the whole point of what you said. And furthermore, its GREAT that you made the statement, it's your right and your feelings. Just don't feel the need to think that I misinterpreted it. The only thing is that you have the right to come back and judge it again when you hear them in full. That's it. Don't think that your statement wasn't a judgement, that's exactly what it was.
I hope you understand that, I can't explain it any more clearly. And it's cool you state you won't take anything back, I don't want you to take it back. I just want you to own that you made the statements the way you did.
DONE.
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Post by PHOBES on Sept 13, 2009 23:54:42 GMT -5
Fine, the clips sucked. But I'm not gonna base an entire song or album on that. I disagree that I passed judgment on anything other than the clips, but I'm starting to get your point now. On September 22nd I'll have the album in my mailbox and I'll be listening to the whole thing through (Between you and me, it might not be that day though since I'm also getting the new Pillar album that day), and then I'll be able to actually decide whether I like it or not. Until then, 30-second samples are all I have to base it on.
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Post by metalfan87 on Sept 16, 2009 17:37:22 GMT -5
#91 on the Hot 100. U serious? I thought it would peak higher than this
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Post by PHOBES on Sept 16, 2009 20:49:36 GMT -5
I really can't believe there isn't more demand for new 3DG. I know it didn't do GREAT in downloads, but number 91 seems a bit off IMO.
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Post by pen on Sept 16, 2009 21:02:04 GMT -5
It'll be funny when you get the album and then say "Break" is the best song on it and then the whole argument you guys had up above will come full circle.
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Post by PHOBES on Sept 16, 2009 21:39:44 GMT -5
^Well, "World So Cold" may be the best Three Days Grace song yet. A lot better than "Break," and "Bitter Taste" is ok. But "The Good Life" isn't anything that special. Although, based on the clips I said "Break" was the second best track on there. After hearing these four, so far that is a reality. So we still may come full circle anyway.
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Post by Ron57 on Sept 16, 2009 21:53:45 GMT -5
I'm holding off listening till the full thing leaks.
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Post by metalfan87 on Sept 18, 2009 6:55:58 GMT -5
top 10 in Active
17 10 THREE DAYS GRACE Break 1134 740 394 3.76
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