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Post by autodidact on Aug 6, 2009 10:56:46 GMT -5
You haven't even heard it. ONE person says everything sounds autotuned (out of all the reviews, ONE person) and people start tripping and saying the whole album is autotuned? Sounds like dramaticking to me. Eh, you're probably right. ;) I probably am overreacting a little bit. I just don't want to think of an album completely filled with Auto-Tune; I guess that thought made me a little crazy. Like any Mariah album, I'll enjoy some songs and dislike others, so it won't be much different. My comment about the vocal surgery still stands, however.
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Post by ZigaZigHa on Aug 6, 2009 10:58:19 GMT -5
Wasn't it Black Summers who posted Mariah had her nodule removed last year? I am not saying he lied since he said someone reliable told him that but now, I do not think that actually happened.
Hopefully after this album, Mariah will think about it. Have a baby, have a nodule surgery and come back after two years.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Aug 6, 2009 10:59:49 GMT -5
You haven't even heard it. ONE person says everything sounds autotuned (out of all the reviews, ONE person) and people start tripping and saying the whole album is autotuned? Sounds like dramaticking to me. Amen!
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Post by autodidact on Aug 6, 2009 11:00:37 GMT -5
Wasn't it Black Summers who posted Mariah had her nodule removed last year? I am not saying he lied since he said someone reliable told him that but now, I do not think that actually happened. Hopefully after this album, Mariah will think about it. Have a baby, have a nodule surgery and come back after two years. That was never proven true or false, though most people think the latter. Unless she did it last summer, she hasn't really had the opportunity. It takes a while to heal, and she probably wouldn't record a whole album with healing vocal chords. Then again, that might explain the Auto-Tune.
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Aug 6, 2009 11:00:51 GMT -5
Wasn't it Black Summers who posted Mariah had her nodule removed last year? I am not saying he lied since he said someone reliable told him that but now, I do not think that actually happened. Hopefully after this album, Mariah will think about it. Have a baby, have a nodule surgery and come back after two years. He just said that a source speculated it, he never said it was true for sure.
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Post by Junkiex on Aug 6, 2009 11:01:29 GMT -5
You haven't even heard it. ONE person says everything sounds autotuned (out of all the reviews, ONE person) and people start tripping and saying the whole album is autotuned? Sounds like dramaticking to me. Some people were already being "dramatic" because no one on the UK listening party mentioned HATEU as a standout track. We're just discussing the review, just like mostly everyone else has done with the other ones. It's part of the fun IMO. I will not make a final judgment of the album until I hear it, but it's ok to hypothesize. This will certainly not diminish my excitement nor hold me from buying the album.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Aug 6, 2009 11:01:32 GMT -5
Wasn't it Black Summers who posted Mariah had her nodule removed last year? I am not saying he lied since he said someone reliable told him that but now, I do not think that actually happened. Hopefully after this album, Mariah will think about it. Have a baby, have a nodule surgery and come back after two years. I don't think she'll ever do that, "Is too risky, too risky!"
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Aug 6, 2009 11:05:06 GMT -5
You haven't even heard it. ONE person says everything sounds autotuned (out of all the reviews, ONE person) and people start tripping and saying the whole album is autotuned? Sounds like dramaticking to me. Some people were already being "dramatic" because no one on the UK listening party mentioned HATEU as a standout track. We're just discussing the review, just like mostly everyone else has done with the other ones. It's part of the fun IMO. I will not make a final judgment of the album until I hear it, but it's ok to hypothesize. This will certainly not diminish my excitement nor hold me from buying the album. It's fine to discuss but for everyone to just start crying about the whole album being autotuned based on hearsay is a bit dramatic.
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Post by Junkiex on Aug 6, 2009 11:07:57 GMT -5
Well, I don't know if my comments showed off as if I was crying about it, but it was certainly not my intention. We'll be able to whine or be amazed as much as we want in a little more than a month :)
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Post by summers on Aug 6, 2009 11:09:54 GMT -5
The performance was okay. Not sure if it will make people run and buy the song, but it's not as horrible as some people here mentioned. I love when she did the 'so oh oh oh' part in whistle note at the end.
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Post by mrsillmatic on Aug 6, 2009 11:12:33 GMT -5
I think a lot of you misunderstood what they ment by digtial. If you listen to the both albums from the dreams they are very digtial sounding and it has nothing to do with autotunes. He has thing for producing music that has very 80's feel that is very computerized.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 6, 2009 11:13:13 GMT -5
Who is this person who is the determining factor in what type of discussions are acceptable in this thread? One or even a few people hardly constitutes "everyone". There have been no "dramatics" in this thread (yet); someone who isn't a fan of auto-tune simply stated his concern that it would be used throughout most of the album. It's not like anyone said "Oh NO! Auto-tune!?!! Mariah is over, the voice is gone, she has to result to auto-tune to be able to even make it through one song!! Woah is me!!" That would be an example of a dramatic reaction.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Aug 6, 2009 11:17:19 GMT -5
Oh dear
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Aug 6, 2009 11:17:57 GMT -5
Who is this person who is the determining factor in what type of discussions are acceptable in this thread? One or even a few people hardly constitutes "everyone". There have been no "dramatics" in this thread (yet); someone who isn't a fan of auto-tune simply stated his concern that it would be used throughout most of the album. It's not like anyone said "Oh NO! Auto-tune!?!! Mariah is over, the voice is gone, she has to result to auto-tune to be able to even make it through one song!! Woah is me!!" That would be an example of a dramatic reaction. Assuming all the songs are autotuned based on one person's words is a bit dramatic. You always try to stir things up, cooler heads need to prevail.
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Post by summers on Aug 6, 2009 11:21:01 GMT -5
^^ Dude, seriously! Your last several posts have been more about arguing and tearing down people's opinion than discussing about Mariah. I'm not saying that you're a hater. Heck, you're far from that. You're probably one of the most logical poster in this thread. but you really don't need to show it off as often as you did . A lot of the fans here are easily excited and very dramatic. No need to bring them down all the time. It's an endless task and will only lead to more bickering. Edit: Sorry Recordman. Not referring to you.
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Post by mrsillmatic on Aug 6, 2009 11:22:55 GMT -5
Lets be real here most mariah thread or board are about the dramatics. From the omg she looks like she gain 50 pounds, to the how dare she wear that outfit.
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Post by Junkiex on Aug 6, 2009 11:23:17 GMT -5
What's wrong with assuming things up to this point? many are assuming HATEU is going to be a killer track, many are assuming IWKWLI is going to be great (including myself), some are assuming The Dream produced the whole album, and so on and so on. It's just that, assumptions that make us wonder what the final product will sound like.
I definitely don't see any problem with that. Now, arguing about whether the reactions were dramatic or not IS dramatic LOL
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 6, 2009 11:27:25 GMT -5
Assuming all the songs are autotuned based on one person's words is a bit dramatic. Dramatic? No. Presumptuous? Perhaps. However (based on reviews from the 6 track preview session), it isn't too far fetched to believe Mariah has a newly ignited interest in auto-tune. Leave it up to someone in this thread to turn conversations into something personal (seems to be very typical). Look, when I see someone comment on something I disagree with or in a way I disagree with, I will say respond. It's sort of my right, just as it is any other member's. I don't post here to win some popularity contest so I don't understand why anyone would be under the impression I actually care if they approve my actions or not. As far as "cooler heads prevail", well I don't know who you could possibly be referring to. ;)
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Aug 6, 2009 11:28:02 GMT -5
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Aug 6, 2009 11:28:18 GMT -5
What's wrong with assuming things up to this point? many are assuming HATEU is going to be a killer track, many are assuming IWKWLI is going to be great (including myself), some are assuming The Dream produced the whole album, and so on and so on. It's just that, assumptions that make us wonder what the final product will sound like. I definitely don't see any problem with that. Now, arguing about whether the reactions were dramatic or not IS dramatic LOL There's no arguing, it was pretty dramatic. Let's just wait til we hear something ourselves before we assume something so negative, that's the difference. Negativity just isn't good for anyone especially when it's based on nearly nothing.
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Post by Junkiex on Aug 6, 2009 11:31:01 GMT -5
IDK what negativity you're talking about? Not being a fan of auto-tune is not bringing negativity ???
Anyway, moving on -->
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 6, 2009 11:31:05 GMT -5
^^ Dude, seriously! Your last several posts have been more about arguing and tearing down people's opinion than discussing about Mariah. If you read back through my comments I only respond to posts which specifically target members of this forum. I haven't argued anyone's opinion about the quality of Mariah or her upcoming album but just when they feel the need to personally involve people into discussions ("People aka these certain members are being so dramatic", "seems to be the usual subjects spreading negativity!" etc). This thread deals with Mariah and her upcoming album; we all should be able to leave our personal opinions of members out of the discussion.
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Aug 6, 2009 11:33:03 GMT -5
I agree. Any change on iTunes?
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Post by Junkiex on Aug 6, 2009 11:34:21 GMT -5
Still at #14 but I think it might go up one spot soon, at least based on the famous popularity bars.
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Aug 6, 2009 11:35:54 GMT -5
Still at #14 but I think it might go up one spot soon, at least based on the famous popularity bars. How do you view the popularity bars? I can't see them on mine.
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Post by nsfb17 on Aug 6, 2009 11:37:52 GMT -5
I love Mariah's threads. They're always entertaining.
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Post by Junkiex on Aug 6, 2009 11:38:43 GMT -5
Well. thing is those are not from the "live feed" but if you go to the iTunes Store and you right click on the column headers of the Top Songs chart, make sure Popularity is selected on the menu that pops up :)
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Post by summers on Aug 6, 2009 11:40:02 GMT -5
Phew! For a second I thought I'm gonna have to deal with two pages of arguments of who has a cooler head or what is dramatic and yada yada.
Glad that Obsessed is holding on in itunes. Hopefully AI will be better today. What are the chances of her having a good AI update over the weekend? (I know usually we won't get good updates over the weekends for most artists)
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Post by Junkiex on Aug 6, 2009 11:43:48 GMT -5
^ But in O's case it has kinda been the other way around. Last weekend we had near to +1.5M gains on sat and sun! :o
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Aug 6, 2009 11:46:47 GMT -5
I love Mariah's threads. They're always entertaining. Right? :)
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