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Post by weaver on Aug 9, 2009 17:04:17 GMT -5
That is sort of blasphemous/sacreligious to simulate crucafixion. Like I said before, Jesus.
But really, I think some of you here should think about getting out a little more.
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Post by martss on Aug 9, 2009 17:04:44 GMT -5
Oprah, why are you actually here?
"Most people" think she can't carry a tune? Ok. Have you even got a passport? Have you left the country? The world isn't your oyster in your own country, so don't speak for "most people" when you haven't actually spoken to "most people".
Generalizing doesn't equate to fact. It's just opinion. A pretty mean one at that.
If you don't think you can sing it begs the question as well, WHY are you here?
You might want to ask yourself that.
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Aug 9, 2009 17:05:03 GMT -5
Excuse me did I ever say I wasn't a Christian?!. There for me is a love song remember. Your probably one of the Christians who think the world is only 7 thousand years old. Seriously educate yourself.  Being a "Christian" is such a blanket term these days. Just because you believe there's a God, doesn't mean you're a Christian. But I don't know you personally, so I can't question that and won't. If you're not a Christ follower you don't have the right to be throwing that label around. And no, please don't assume I'm "one of those" Christians who thinks ANYTHING. You don't know me, so don't pretend that you do dude. You make yourself look ignorant. Things have kinda spiraled out of control, it's probably best to chill until something news breaks. It's true what the bible says, Jesus causes division and trouble. |
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Post by martss on Aug 9, 2009 17:05:57 GMT -5
That is sort of blasphemous/sacreligious to simulate crucafixion. Like I said before, Jesus. But really, I think some of you here should think about getting out a little more. Yeah that is really blasphemous/sacreligious. I don't get how it's funny or a joke. Aint it interesting though that people don't mock Islam or Buddha or any other faith. Mention "Jesus" though and the sh*t hits the fan. |
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Post by martss on Aug 9, 2009 17:07:20 GMT -5
Being a "Christian" is such a blanket term these days. Just because you believe there's a God, doesn't mean you're a Christian. But I don't know you personally, so I can't question that and won't. If you're not a Christ follower you don't have the right to be throwing that label around. And no, please don't assume I'm "one of those" Christians who thinks ANYTHING. You don't know me, so don't pretend that you do dude. You make yourself look ignorant. Things have kinda spiraled out of control, it's probably best to chill until something news breaks. It's true what the bible says, Jesus causes division and trouble. Jesus doesnt cause division and trouble. |
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Aug 9, 2009 17:07:47 GMT -5
That is sort of blasphemous/sacreligious to simulate crucafixion. Like I said before, Jesus. But really, I think some of you here should think about getting out a little more. Yeah that is really blasphemous/sacreligious. I don't get how it's funny or a joke. Aint it interesting though that people don't mock Islam or Buddha or any other faith. Mention "Jesus" though and the sh*t hits the fan. Right. I won't say what I was gonna say next. |
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Post by weaver on Aug 9, 2009 17:07:50 GMT -5
ok I know....where do we think Obsessed will place on the Hot 100 this week? I think it will be in the 11-14 range, while I of course wish it would be #10. Just blatantly trying to change course here, somehow.
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Post by Rican@ on Aug 9, 2009 17:08:05 GMT -5
Oprah, why are you actually here? "Most people" think she can't carry a tune? Ok. Have you even got a passport? Have you left the country? The world isn't your oyster in your own country, so don't speak for "most people" when you haven't actually spoken to "most people". Generalizing doesn't equate to fact. It's just opinion. A pretty mean one at that. If you don't think you can sing it begs the question as well, WHY are you here? You might want to ask yourself that. Hmmm for someone I have seen try to speak everyone else in this thread, I must say "pot calling the kettle black" You know. |
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Aug 9, 2009 17:11:14 GMT -5
Things have kinda spiraled out of control, it's probably best to chill until something news breaks. It's true what the bible says, Jesus causes division and trouble. Jesus doesnt cause division and trouble. Jesus said in the bible, He didn't come to bring peace but with a sword. Matthew 10:34 - Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. |
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Aug 9, 2009 17:11:54 GMT -5
ok I know....where do we think Obsessed will place on the Hot 100 this week? I think it will be in the 11-14 range, while I of course wish it would be #10. Just blatantly trying to change course here, somehow. I think that's about right. #10 would be hard. |
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Aug 9, 2009 17:14:00 GMT -5
 at this whole thread. I am literally "LOL". Better name: Mariah the Messiah > Godiah. |
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Post by weaver on Aug 9, 2009 17:14:43 GMT -5
If we get some really good updates it could happen, perhaps. We got a better one today. I do think it's more likely it will be a max of 11 though.
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Post by Rican@ on Aug 9, 2009 17:16:01 GMT -5
It is really necessary of two posters to use Jesus in this sense, nice, that you two are so holy (or whatever) but I do think there is limit.
Never heard the saying, that you never discuss religion in public, like seriously.
I find it obnoxious, honestly.
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Post by martss on Aug 9, 2009 17:17:09 GMT -5
Jesus doesnt cause division and trouble. Jesus said in the bible, He didn't come to bring peace but with a sword. Matthew 10:34 - Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. True. But it doesn't say "I came here to cause division and trouble". If anything he's all about unity and vision, not DEvision and trouble. But yeah, he didn't come to make things all nice and perfect. Came to bring truth and salvation. Truth is ugly too though because we have to confront ourselves. Moving right along though ... I don't think it's the right forum to discuss this kinda stuff. But we'll leave it at Mariah clearly loves and has great faith in Jesus. And if her fans can respect that in her they should be able to tolerate a simple comment like "Thank you Jesus for the increase in spins" or whatever it is you said. That's like no big deal to say. Half the time people say that anyway. "Thank God I caught that train!" or whatever. No big deal. |
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Aug 9, 2009 17:17:24 GMT -5
It is really necessary of two posters to use Jesus in this sense, nice, that you two are so holy (or whatever) but I do think there is limit. Never heard the saying, that you never discuss religion in public, like seriously. I find it obnoxious, honestly. No. It's the USA. 1st Amendment says we're within our rights. This isn't a school. |
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Post by weaver on Aug 9, 2009 17:18:18 GMT -5
Oy vey....
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Post by martss on Aug 9, 2009 17:19:13 GMT -5
It is really necessary of two posters to use Jesus in this sense, nice, that you two are so holy (or whatever) but I do think there is limit. Never heard the saying, that you never discuss religion in public, like seriously. I find it obnoxious, honestly. I hate religion. I have a faith, not religion. Religion is all about rules and limitations. A personal relationship with Jesus is different to "Don't pierce your ears you're a guy", "Women you have to cover everything from head to toe". That kinda stuff if bullsh*t religion. I don't stand for that sorry. But yes I totally agree. That's why I posted that it's not the forum to start really discussing scriptures and stuff. Not the right place for that. At the same time PR, you're a big boy/girl. So if you can handle talking about politics you should be able to handle talking abour "religion". Toughen up. |
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Aug 9, 2009 17:20:31 GMT -5
Jesus said in the bible, He didn't come to bring peace but with a sword. Matthew 10:34 - Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. True. But it doesn't say "I came here to cause division and trouble". If anything he's all about unity and vision, not DEvision and trouble. But yeah, he didn't come to make things all nice and perfect. Came to bring truth and salvation. Truth is ugly too though because we have to confront ourselves. Moving right along though ... I don't think it's the right forum to discuss this kinda stuff. But we'll leave it at Mariah clearly loves and has great faith in Jesus. And if her fans can respect that in her they should be able to tolerate a simple comment like "Thank you Jesus for the increase in spins" or whatever it is you said. That's like no big deal to say. Half the time people say that anyway. "Thank God I caught that train!" or whatever. No big deal. Yepper, we both are getting at the same thing. Basically the Truth (Jesus) stirs up confusion and disturbance. The next verse said this: 35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. But like you said moving on... |
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Post by dream<3lover on Aug 9, 2009 17:21:10 GMT -5
Okay seriously all this back and forth useless banter has to stop now...if your not here to discuss the album u have no need to be here.
MODS need to either LOCK this or warn some people.......personal, useless chatter belongs in IM
THanks
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Post by The Emancipated Unicorn! on Aug 9, 2009 17:21:23 GMT -5
I hate "holier than thou" christians.
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Post by The Emancipated Unicorn! on Aug 9, 2009 17:22:05 GMT -5
Okay seriously all this back and forth useless banter has to stop now...if your not here to discuss the album u have no need to be here. MODS need to either LOCK this or warn some people.......personal, useless chatter belongs in IM THanks shhhh. If you don't say anything the whole thing willl blow over, and the mods won't lock the board. |
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Post by weaver on Aug 9, 2009 17:22:07 GMT -5
Okay seriously all this back and forth useless banter has to stop now...if your not here to discuss the album u have no need to be here. MODS need to either LOCK this or warn some people.......personal, useless chatter belongs in IM THanks this |
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Post by Rican@ on Aug 9, 2009 17:22:46 GMT -5
It is really necessary of two posters to use Jesus in this sense, nice, that you two are so holy (or whatever) but I do think there is limit. Never heard the saying, that you never discuss religion in public, like seriously. I find it obnoxious, honestly. No. It's the USA. 1st Amendment says we're within our rights. This isn't a school. Oh wow, the 1st Amendment talk. Never said it was school but it is unpleasant of reading things like that when it seems so inapprociate in this thread. It seems so forced and contrived of you to do it as well. But each of his own. Not my issue. Continue. |
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Aug 9, 2009 17:23:08 GMT -5
Still sitting @ #12 on iTunes.
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Post by weaver on Aug 9, 2009 17:23:50 GMT -5
I hate "holier than thou" christians. I haven't seen anything that's come across as "holier than thou" at all donnie. Recordman praised Jesus and certain posters got their panties in a twist, is how the whole thing reads to me. Did I miss something? Ok, last comment about this from me. |
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Post by dream<3lover on Aug 9, 2009 17:24:21 GMT -5
Okay seriously all this back and forth useless banter has to stop now...if your not here to discuss the album u have no need to be here. MODS need to either LOCK this or warn some people.......personal, useless chatter belongs in IM THanks shhhh. If you don't say anything the whole thing willl blow over, and the mods won't lock the board. Im getting sick and tired of reading thru 5 pages of this CRAP to find news...its annoying, childish and extremely stupid..GROW up |
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Post by Oprah on Aug 9, 2009 17:28:04 GMT -5
Oprah, why are you actually here? "Most people" think she can't carry a tune? Ok. Have you even got a passport? Have you left the country? The world isn't your oyster in your own country, so don't speak for "most people" when you haven't actually spoken to "most people". Generalizing doesn't equate to fact. It's just opinion. A pretty mean one at that. If you don't think you can sing it begs the question as well, WHY are you here? You might want to ask yourself that. Um, I'm not the one who said that. Although it's obviously 100% true, so whoever did deserves a round of applause! I'm sure you don't think 'ANYTHING'. Just reading your posts is enough to see that! |
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Post by weaver on Aug 9, 2009 17:32:04 GMT -5
Move on people this is the Mariah thread. Mods probably need to do something....
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Post by dream<3lover on Aug 9, 2009 17:33:11 GMT -5
Move on people this is the Mariah thread. Mods probably need to do something.... Thats why certain instigators are here, they just wanna get it locked...just report the names to those who are obviously TROLLING and personally attacking ppl's faith, religion and talking nonsense |
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Post by Rican@ on Aug 9, 2009 17:34:48 GMT -5
Move on people this is the Mariah thread. Mods probably need to do something.... Thats why certain instigators are here, they just wanna get it locked...just report the names to those who are obviously TROLLING and personally attacking ppl's faith, religion and talking nonsense Who are those people? I don't see anyone attacking anyone's faith or religion. |
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