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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Aug 6, 2009 14:02:36 GMT -5
Someone of MC's caliber should not have to use autotune so much. To THINK the woman who blessed me with "Can't Let Go", "The Wind", and even "My Saving Grace" has to use that s**t. Owell, looks like I'll once again be skipping over tracks trying the find the real MC. Make sure you still buy the album hon... ;)
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Post by Abel on Aug 6, 2009 14:07:23 GMT -5
Shes STILL writing? What the hell? Why not just release the record in the spring? It was foolish and irresponsible for Def Jam to release that press release in June KNOWING the album wasn't even close the being done. I had the feeling they were trying to compete with Whitney. ugh Because they know they can get away with "oh baby baby, baby baby, I love you" as the chorus... come on.. if they want to have 10 number ones this era, they have to keep the songs as 'dumb' as possible.
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Post by Abel on Aug 6, 2009 14:08:30 GMT -5
I have the feeling that radio is ignoring Mariah because they want Whitney to have the chance for the limelight.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Aug 6, 2009 14:08:54 GMT -5
I have to say something... I'm glad that none of the reviews are hyping the songs (besides the foreigner cover). I'd rather have low expectations and be surprised, then have high expectations and be disappointed. One only has to read the whitney reviews and listen to the songs, to see most of the reviews were utter crap and full of bias (with little to no objectivity). there I had my vent My thoughts exactly.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Aug 6, 2009 14:10:27 GMT -5
I would rate Loverboy or TTR ahead of this. Eww. My least two favorite Mariah songs EVER!
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Post by PDC1987 on Aug 6, 2009 14:11:54 GMT -5
I have the feeling that radio is ignoring Mariah because they want Whitney to have the chance for the limelight. Well, it's not like Whitney's song is blowing up at radio. It had a great first week but now is struggling.
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Post by Caviar on Aug 6, 2009 14:19:21 GMT -5
And "Obsessed" struggled then it stabilized. Your point?
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Post by Tanisha Thomas. on Aug 6, 2009 14:24:11 GMT -5
And "Obsessed" struggled then it stabilized. Your point? Exactly. And where exactly is "Celebration" on the radio?
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Post by S. Carter on Aug 6, 2009 14:28:48 GMT -5
"Loverboy" was HOT, especially the remix. I never understood why it got so much hate. Actually, most people I knew during that time dug it. I agree. I loved it, esp. the remix like you said. I think most ppl try to disassociate from it because its a reminder of that horrible era in her career. But I like it much more than "Obsessed".
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Post by Mimoo on Aug 6, 2009 14:41:12 GMT -5
I have the feeling that radio is ignoring Mariah because they want Whitney to have the chance for the limelight. I doubt it. Whitney's I Look To you is flopping (or should I make that past tense flopped? ). And Madonn'a celebration seems to be D.O.A. If anything, Mariah is getting the most love ;) p.s. relax about radio. Obsessed is doing fine. Already top19! and soon to be top15 in a few days
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Aug 6, 2009 14:47:05 GMT -5
Again, what do Whitney or Madonna have to do with Mariah's thread? Anyone? Oh that's right, they have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Comparing Obsessed's performance to the performances of first singles from other artists is not going to make it any more successful. Realize, accept and move on folks.
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Post by Tanisha Thomas. on Aug 6, 2009 14:48:48 GMT -5
I have the feeling that radio is ignoring Mariah because they want Whitney to have the chance for the limelight. I doubt it. Whitney's I Look To you is flopping (or should I make that past tense flopped? ). And Madonn'a celebration seems to be D.O.A. If anything, Mariah is getting the most love ;) p.s. relax about radio. Obsessed is doing fine. Already top19! and soon to be top15 in a few days Boo! She can thank Eminem for the sudden improvement. If it wasn't for his diss, "Obsessed" would probably be below the top 30 on iTunes and barely gaining on radio. Once "The Warning" came out, it made people interested in "Obsessed" again and her fans know that. I bet if Bobby Brown or Guy Ritchie would have made disses against Whitney and Madonna, their songs would be climbing the charts, too. Don't get dragged with the truth!
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Post by ₫anny Jerz ♔ on Aug 6, 2009 14:52:45 GMT -5
I would love to know why anyone takes an obvious troll's bait. Report and ignore folks. Don't fall into the trap of responding.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Aug 6, 2009 14:54:13 GMT -5
Golly, Mariah is a fantastic singer. :)
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Post by So Pure on Aug 6, 2009 15:45:22 GMT -5
Again, what do Whitney or Madonna have to do with Mariah's thread? Anyone? Oh that's right, they have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Comparing Obsessed's performance to the performances of first singles from other artists is not going to make it any more successful. Realize, accept and move on folks. Because that's the 1st thing Mimoo stalkers do when they feel threatened...they attack (usually Madonna) but now since Whitney is getting all of the love and attention they're after her. Madonna and Whitney have nothing left to prove...the big Moo is still trying to prove how down she is. She'll be doing rent a rapper collabo's when she's 65. That boat has sailed and it's only "Delicious's" and the Jr. joto set that care about her anyways. I can't even know what to say!
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Aug 6, 2009 15:49:33 GMT -5
Sad.
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Post by weaver on Aug 6, 2009 16:18:48 GMT -5
Assuming all the songs are autotuned based on one person's words is a bit dramatic. Dramatic? No. Presumptuous? Perhaps. However (based on reviews from the 6 track preview session), it isn't too far fetched to believe Mariah has a newly ignited interest in auto-tune. Leave it up to someone in this thread to turn conversations into something personal (seems to be very typical). Look, when I see someone comment on something I disagree with or in a way I disagree with, I will say respond. It's sort of my right, just as it is any other member's. I don't post here to win some popularity contest so I don't understand why anyone would be under the impression I actually care if they approve my actions or not. As far as "cooler heads prevail", well I don't know who you could possibly be referring to. ;) Will, I think a lot of us here would appreciate it if you would spend less time picking on the posting style of people here, and more time talking about actual topics relating to Mariah. This kind of stuff, which you engage in frequently, is not what i come here to read. I'm thinking that I'm not in the minority.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Aug 6, 2009 16:25:22 GMT -5
Again, what do Whitney or Madonna have to do with Mariah's thread? Anyone? Gee I don't know Will. Maybe we are having a discussion? Oh that's right, they have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Again, we are simply having discussions, fans of other artists come in here to talk, some to h@te, some don't. Comparing Obsessed's performance to the performances of first singles from other artists is not going to make it any more successful. Realize, accept and move on folks. Is only natural for people to compare singles, I mean this is Pulse Music, right? Point is you don't like when people tell you what to write, say, think, agree on...so you might as well just realize, accept and move on.
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Post by martss on Aug 6, 2009 16:36:02 GMT -5
LOL What? You haven't even heard it for yourself, how can you say Mariah is above it? Mariah is regarded as one of the best singers of all time. In my opinion, Auto-Tune is primarily for those who need assistance when singing. Like I said, I'm okay with it on "Obsessed" because it's more stylistic, but I don't want to hear it on every song! I don't want to listen to a Mariah song and hear completely Auto-Tuned belts and whistles. I'm beginning to think she needs it, though, which is not good. I for one wish she would just have the nodule surgery. Julie Andrews was an anomaly. Mariah would most likely be fine. Justin Timberlake did it, and it did wonders for his voice. I still want the album. I focus mostly on the music and lyrics; a great voice is a bonus. I guess as long as there's one song with classic belting and whistles, I'll be fine. "I Want to Know What Love Is" sounds like that song. I'll enjoy the Auto-Tuned songs, but they won't be my favorites. EVERYONE uses autotune. Every artist you hear on Top 40 radio anyway. It's used to help the vocal sit as much "in the pocket" as possible, even if it's already pitch-perfect. When you crank up the autotune though (imagine a meter bar, like that of a volume bar) you get that T-pain effect. Please get your facts straight. And why the hell are you even getting upset over something YOU HAVENT EVEN HEARD yet? Maybe it sounds the most "digitalized" a Mariah record ever has because we actually live in the digital age now? Mariah moves with the times, constantly evolving, which should be no surprise. The whole "classic belting" comment just makes me laugh. You are one of those "we want OLD Mariah back" fans. So it kind of explains it all. When are people going to MOVE FORWARDS?
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Aug 6, 2009 16:38:37 GMT -5
I've said it before, I'll say it again, don't feed the trolls. When you do they linger around like an old stray cat or better yet like roaches.
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Post by martss on Aug 6, 2009 16:41:29 GMT -5
WILL when are you gonna learn to relax your @ss?
You are clearly one of those people who hears hearsay or gossip and treats it as gospel.
I can say that because you are like the king of assuming everything. Dude.
Just relax and wait till you hear the album yourself before you start crying like a little girl LOL.
ANY "fan" who writes off the artist they claim to support, even before they are given a chance, is not much of a fan at all.
Mariah Care can't win. Even before she drops her album and people even HEAR it for themselves, she sucks. LOL.
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Post by Caviar on Aug 6, 2009 16:46:57 GMT -5
Mariah's evolution has been on shaky ground since the Rainbow era. Sure enough, she does move with the times, and there's nothing wrong with that. If Mariah wants to show her titties and ass, and write petty songs about an irrelevant rapper, thats her business. But this woman has been in the business for twenty years and still competing with the Ciaras, Keri Hilsons, and the Britney's of today. If thats how MC wants to become "current" thats fine, but I feel with the GOD GIVEN TALENT she has been blessed with, she doesn't have to "digitize" her voice. I been a fan since the beginning but I won't keep buying shit when I feel she's capable of so much better.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Aug 6, 2009 16:47:06 GMT -5
Will, I think a lot of us here would appreciate it if you would spend less time picking on the posting style of people here Since when have I been "picking" on anyone's posting style? I have done no such thing unless you consider immaturely throwing other members personally into discussions for the pure purpose of bad mouthing them a "posting style". I don't care if every single person in this entire thread or forum hates my posts. As long as my posts don't break any rules (which they don't) I'll continue to post what I like as frequently as I'd like. If you take such issue with my comments, don't read them. Simple.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Aug 6, 2009 16:47:31 GMT -5
Honestly, I like talking to Will. It's nice to debate with somebody every once in a while that can actually carry out their side of the argument and back it up. Do I think he's overly critical sometimes? Sure, but I don't think it's because he's any less of a fan. In fact, the two years I've been here, I've never really seen him overly defend or love an artist. When Mariah, or anybody else that he claims to be a fan of, does or releases something that Will sees quality in, he praises it. When they don't, he just as easily criticizes it. I think he looks at things at a "glass half empty" perspective, but I don't think he should be punished for it. It should be respected. He doesn't come here to intentionally rile people up like nameless others do.
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Post by martss on Aug 6, 2009 16:52:28 GMT -5
Wasn't it Black Summers who posted Mariah had her nodule removed last year? I am not saying he lied since he said someone reliable told him that but now, I do not think that actually happened. Hopefully after this album, Mariah will think about it. Have a baby, have a nodule surgery and come back after two years. LOL at people thinking that having surgery to remove nodules 20 years into their careers will take them back to sounding like they did on day one. FALSE. She may have had the surgery, it doesn't mean you hear this huge dramatic change. Do any of you actually work in the business or at least RESEARCH before you just post away? LOL. Nodule surgery won't result in "the old Mariah" coming back.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Aug 6, 2009 16:52:53 GMT -5
Gee I don't know Will. Maybe we are having a discussion? No, people are feeling the need to "tear down" other artists in order to make their favorite appear more successful (or to try and agitate another poster). This kind of behavior is immature and not needed. I would think me having a particular opinion of a Mariah performance would be just a bit different than not agreeing with someone trolling.
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Post by Where will Mimi be? on Aug 6, 2009 16:54:04 GMT -5
One pop station in Cinti Oh added this yesterday according to all acccess I am not sure how they know its official but almost at 100 pop stations only 55 to go....
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Aug 6, 2009 16:56:52 GMT -5
WILL when are you gonna learn to relax your @ss? This is interesting. As evidenced by what? Again, evidenced by what? I don't recall "crying like a little girl". I simply remember posting opinions. Who are these people who have written Mariah off? Find me a quote.
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Post by martss on Aug 6, 2009 16:59:51 GMT -5
Shes STILL writing? What the hell? Why not just release the record in the spring? It was foolish and irresponsible for Def Jam to release that press release in June KNOWING the album wasn't even close the being done. I had the feeling they were trying to compete with Whitney. ugh Because they know they can get away with "oh baby baby, baby baby, I love you" as the chorus... come on.. if they want to have 10 number ones this era, they have to keep the songs as 'dumb' as possible. WTF? When has she put out a "dumb" song? I'm sorry, when I hear a song like "Obsessed" I can actually recognize that it takes a FANTASTC songwriter to craft that. Yes, it's YOUNG and CURRENT. That is a good thing though. If you're one of those fans wanting her to go down the AC route, don't hold your breath anytime soon. There is NO reason why she should feel like she's past her expiry date as a vocalist, a songwriter and even as a woman. Please. Dint she have her last #1 album AND single just last year? It would be different if for the last 5 years she consistently couldn't even crack top 40. Then maybe she'd have to reroute and look at a different angle. That clearly hasn't happened. It's more "old Mariah" fans again. Same old sh*t.
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Post by martss on Aug 6, 2009 17:04:07 GMT -5
WILL you can do that yourself. Don't play coy. You are very aware of the way you jump to conclusions and presume before you've even seen or heard something yourself.
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