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Post by Pipa on Sept 20, 2009 11:43:58 GMT -5
Um, the chorus has a pretty anthemic feel to it. Musically, yes, but can you recite the lyrics back? For the fan who actively pays attention to the song and memorizes all Green Day lyrics, maybe, but not for the casual radio listener. This is the thing this song lacks that almost all past Green Day singles don't have such a problem. "A light burns out today"? I think that's how it goes.
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Post by pen on Sept 20, 2009 11:49:13 GMT -5
Musically, yes, but can you recite the lyrics back? For the fan who actively pays attention to the song and memorizes all Green Day lyrics, maybe, but not for the casual radio listener. This is the thing this song lacks that almost all past Green Day singles don't have such a problem. "A light burns out today"? I think that's how it goes. You didn't read my post, did you.
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Post by Pipa on Sept 20, 2009 11:52:55 GMT -5
"A light burns out today"? I think that's how it goes. You didn't read my post, did you. No, and you clearly have a much better memory than mine.
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Post by metalfan87 on Sept 20, 2009 18:28:36 GMT -5
top 50 in Active
63 48 GREEN DAY East Jesus Nowhere 117 60 57 0.555
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Post by Ron57 on Sept 20, 2009 20:59:12 GMT -5
A fire burns today. How can you not remember that.
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Post by yaya on Sept 21, 2009 17:27:28 GMT -5
Awesome song
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Sept 26, 2009 9:39:51 GMT -5
Top 40 on Alternative:
50 40 GREEN DAY East Jesus Nowhere 271 158 113 1.205
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Post by metalfan87 on Sept 27, 2009 11:03:50 GMT -5
top 40 in Active
48 40 GREEN DAY East Jesus Nowhere 183 117 66 0.717
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Oct 13, 2009 10:12:42 GMT -5
Top 30 on Alternative:
33 30 GREEN DAY East Jesus Nowhere 459 442 17 2.025
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Post by when the pawn... on Oct 13, 2009 15:07:30 GMT -5
Moving awfully slow, can this still go top 5?
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Post by singingsparrow on Oct 15, 2009 21:14:17 GMT -5
Moving awfully slow, can this still go top 5? It needs to garner play on other stations if it is to continue climbing toward the top. Only about two-thirds of the panel is behind the song presently.................surprisingly low considering "21 Guns" is already beneath the Top 20 of this chart. Sincerely, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by crash46 on Oct 15, 2009 21:17:44 GMT -5
That's horrible.
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Post by singingsparrow on Oct 15, 2009 21:38:40 GMT -5
Definitely not an encouraging sign. Green Day had the right idea with this record, and they have plenty of ammunition that supposedly they would dominate the Alternative format with......................it just seems like listeners are burnt out on their political material, or perhaps listeners are actually burnt out on Green Day at the moment entirely and have shifted to bands like Rise Against for political fixings. Sincerely, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by crash46 on Oct 16, 2009 13:25:37 GMT -5
If that's the case, it's a shame Green Day can't be appreciated for being top of the line at their craft.
Personally, I neither listen to nor don't listen to music for being "political", and I don't think "East Jesus Nowhere" is even a political song nearly as much as it is simply a song of a very unfortunate observation about life and society. The same goes for the rest of 21CB, and really, pretty much all of AI as well.
Also, I'd argue that Rise Against's political elements have never been exposed to the mainstream (not through song, at least), so it doesn't make sense that they'd be overshadowing Green Day in that department. Although I wouldn't rule it out.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Oct 17, 2009 2:40:16 GMT -5
Honestly, though, I'm kind of sick of Green Day. Especially since they went for the grandiose concept album again and stretched it even further. Plus it's 70 minutes long. You gotta pack in some undeniable, killer tunes, if it's gonna be over 10 minutes longer than American Idiot. They're already on single #3 and, I'm sorry, but I don't count "East Jesus Nowhere" as an undeniable, killer tune. And that's one of my 5 favorites on the album, so that tells you something right there. "Know Your Enemy" wasn't a killer tune, for that matter, either. "21 Guns" is a great song, but it had an uncomfortably familiar feel to it working against its favor.
Sure, "21 Guns" got totally hosed, stalling at #3. My station was part of the problem, as they hardly played it and were all too eager to get rid of it. I just might've heard "East Jesus Nowhere" already as much as I heard them play "21 Guns."
I'm not sorry I saw them live a couple months back, but I'm completely relieved I didn't have to pay for it, considering the show I got. They could've played probably the rest of Dookie, "Wake Me Up When September Ends," and "Jesus of Suburbia" in the time Billie Joe wasted hyping the audience and covering snippets of classic pop/rock songs. Depending on how their next album turns out, I could probably be content without seeing them live ever again.
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Post by Ron57 on Oct 17, 2009 12:45:07 GMT -5
They played Jesus of Suburbia when I saw them. In fact, they had someone from the audience come up and play it with them.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Oct 17, 2009 16:42:43 GMT -5
I think this song's fine, this should definitely be doing better.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Oct 18, 2009 0:44:18 GMT -5
I think this song's fine, this should definitely be doing better. It should definitely be doing better, but it should only peak at, like, #8 or something.
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Post by mcbrearty on Oct 18, 2009 5:52:32 GMT -5
Just when I was sort of warming to Green Day with "21 Guns" (after many , many listens) they put out crap like this.
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Post by halo19 on Oct 18, 2009 7:42:46 GMT -5
Actually I think it could be my favorite of the three singles, but we'll see once it has really run its course.
"Know Your Enemy," we all know it wouldn't have gotten 7 weeks at #1 if it wasn't by Green Day. But if a song like "Get on Your Boots" can have a fast rise-fall we hadn't seen since "The Everlasting Gaze," I don't think it really should have done much better, American Idiot follow-up aside.
"21 Guns" is pretty good for what it is but it's just so obvious they were trying to make another BOBD/WMUWSE. So it seemed a tad forced to me.
I'm one of the few people who thinks "Waiting" is one of their five best songs ever, which probably isn't that popular opinion, for what that's worth.
"American Eulogy" probably wouldn't have a shot but it's something that I think would be cool to hear on the radio anyways.
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Oct 18, 2009 11:51:13 GMT -5
I have to agree that this song just wasn't as immediate as most of their stuff. But now that it's grown on me, it's easily my favorite single from this album.
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Post by American Idiot on Oct 18, 2009 17:15:53 GMT -5
They played Jesus of Suburbia when I saw them. In fact, they had someone from the audience come up and play it with them. Same thing happened when I saw them back in early August. I had a feeling they did that at all the others as well. It kind of makes me wonder if they have some roadie who follows them and they invite him up to play that song every show. Reason being, the kid at mine played the song basically perfect and didn't miss a chord. Seems pretty difficult for most guitarists at EACH show to play a nine minute song no matter how big of a Green Day fan they may be.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Oct 19, 2009 3:32:36 GMT -5
They played Jesus of Suburbia when I saw them. In fact, they had someone from the audience come up and play it with them. Same thing happened when I saw them back in early August. Well I got hosed, then, dammit.
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Post by halo19 on Oct 19, 2009 13:42:58 GMT -5
They were apparently above playing the song when I got to see them. I think it was intentional because I read that Franz Ferdinand (who I missed entirely) did "This Fire" with a pyrotechnic because the band was not going to play JOS that night.
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Post by PHOBES on Oct 19, 2009 15:52:00 GMT -5
I'm one of the few people who thinks "Waiting" is one of their five best songs ever, which probably isn't that popular opinion, for what that's worth. Nice to see I'm not alone, that was such a great song. [It kind of makes me wonder if they have some roadie who follows them and they invite him up to play that song every show. In their defense, Green Day songs are ridiculously easy. Basically 90% power chord. I'd imagine any Green Day fan with 4 months of guitar experience could play most of their catalog with limited preparation.
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Post by Ron57 on Oct 19, 2009 20:10:24 GMT -5
They played Jesus of Suburbia when I saw them. In fact, they had someone from the audience come up and play it with them. Same thing happened when I saw them back in early August. I had a feeling they did that at all the others as well. It kind of makes me wonder if they have some roadie who follows them and they invite him up to play that song every show. Reason being, the kid at mine played the song basically perfect and didn't miss a chord. Seems pretty difficult for most guitarists at EACH show to play a nine minute song no matter how big of a Green Day fan they may be. Actually, even just starting to play guitar I could learn almost any Green Day song easily. I went home that night and learned Jesus of Suburbia in like 20 minutes. Anyway, it was a teenage chick that played it at ours, so your theory doesn't seem to work. I have to agree though. He spent a LOT of time hyping up the crowd and way less time playing. Gotta admit they sound amazing live though.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Nov 19, 2009 11:18:00 GMT -5
Top 20 on Alternative:
23 20 GREEN DAY East Jesus Nowhere 777 660 117 3.388
About time. :)
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Dec 14, 2009 18:46:48 GMT -5
So apparently these guys are the next band to get their own version of Rock Band.
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Post by American Idiot on Dec 14, 2009 20:28:31 GMT -5
So apparently these guys are the next band to get their own version of Rock Band. I heard about this yesterday. You bet your damn ass I'm buying this
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Dec 14, 2009 20:52:36 GMT -5
This is going to be the easiest rock band ever. Which is good. Cause, excluding vocals, I'm not very good -- only can expert the guitar on easy stuff like Linkin Park or Panic! @ the Disco
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