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Post by jvandyck87 on Oct 23, 2009 15:26:08 GMT -5
^I'm sure the artists and the labels would agree with you.
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Post by Ron57 on Oct 23, 2009 15:30:40 GMT -5
^I'm sure the artists and the labels would agree with you. Albums leaks. that's just the way it is. It doesn't need to be pointed out excitedly every time it happens though xD
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Oct 23, 2009 22:03:43 GMT -5
I wonder why this isn't doing so well on Alternative?
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Post by Stephen on Oct 24, 2009 19:46:27 GMT -5
The album is much harder than the last, which is unfortunate considering Atreyu doesn't do metal very well IMO. Hard rock - yes, metal - no. Wait For You could be a pop hit for them if they decided to send it; it is like a better/harder Nickelback love song.
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Post by Ron57 on Oct 24, 2009 19:51:45 GMT -5
The album is much harder than the last, which is unfortunate considering Atreyu doesn't do metal very well IMO. Hard rock - yes, metal - no. Wait For You could be a pop hit for them if they decided to send it; it is like a better/harder Nickelback love song. I like the album actually. It brought enough of their old feel back and kept some of the new feel at the same time. It's a good mixture imo.
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Post by Stephen on Oct 24, 2009 19:57:08 GMT -5
I just prefer metal bands that accompany the powerful screams with powerful vocals (Killswitch). That's just my taste though. Atreyu makes for a more convincing Hard Rock band.
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Post by pen on Oct 24, 2009 22:52:08 GMT -5
I disagree. Atreyu has always had powerful vocals.
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Post by Ron57 on Oct 24, 2009 23:14:50 GMT -5
I just prefer metal bands that accompany the powerful screams with powerful vocals (Killswitch). That's just my taste though. Atreyu makes for a more convincing Hard Rock band. I disagree whole heartedly. Atreyu has ten times better vocals than Killswitch imo. Killswitch have rougher deeper voices, whereas Atreyu having the screaming along with the unique singing voice thrown in. It's a good variation, and one of the reasons I actually can say I like some heavier metalcore bands. If there's no singing involved whatsoever, I don't find it to be of any interest to me. In a way I guess that's why I like Lead Sails Paper Anchor the most.
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Post by Stephen on Oct 24, 2009 23:18:04 GMT -5
I just prefer metal bands that accompany the powerful screams with powerful vocals (Killswitch). That's just my taste though. Atreyu makes for a more convincing Hard Rock band. I disagree whole heartedly. Atreyu has ten times better vocals than Killswitch imo. Killswitch have rougher deeper voices, whereas Atreyu having the screaming along with the unique singing voice thrown in. It's a good variation, and one of the reasons I actually can say I like some heavier metalcore bands. If there's no singing involved whatsoever, I don't find it to be of any interest to me. In a way I guess that's why I like Lead Sails Paper Anchor the most. I think you misunderstood me. I prefer Lead Sails Paper Anchor as well. I'm saying their voices aren't strong enough to go straight from screaming to singing live. They have good voices, but I think they sound better sticking to singing and NOT screaming.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Oct 24, 2009 23:20:47 GMT -5
I'll vote for Killswitch in the vocals department. Howard has got serious pipes.
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Post by pen on Oct 24, 2009 23:31:02 GMT -5
I disagree whole heartedly. Atreyu has ten times better vocals than Killswitch imo. Killswitch have rougher deeper voices, whereas Atreyu having the screaming along with the unique singing voice thrown in. It's a good variation, and one of the reasons I actually can say I like some heavier metalcore bands. If there's no singing involved whatsoever, I don't find it to be of any interest to me. In a way I guess that's why I like Lead Sails Paper Anchor the most. I think you misunderstood me. I prefer Lead Sails Paper Anchor as well. I'm saying their voices aren't strong enough to go straight from screaming to singing live. They have good voices, but I think they sound better sticking to singing and NOT screaming. Super disagree. One of the best aspects of Atreyu has been the mix of screaming and singing. I assume you don't like any of their pre-Anchor albums?
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Post by Stephen on Oct 24, 2009 23:50:21 GMT -5
I think you misunderstood me. I prefer Lead Sails Paper Anchor as well. I'm saying their voices aren't strong enough to go straight from screaming to singing live. They have good voices, but I think they sound better sticking to singing and NOT screaming. Super disagree. One of the best aspects of Atreyu has been the mix of screaming and singing. I assume you don't like any of their pre-Anchor albums? Correct. I enjoyed a few of the songs (Bleeding Mascara and Someone's Standing On My Chest to name a couple) on their previous efforts, but Anchor was what made me a fan.
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Post by pen on Oct 25, 2009 0:13:28 GMT -5
I loved A Deathgrip On Yesterday.
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Post by PHOBES on Oct 25, 2009 0:19:07 GMT -5
I loved A Deathgrip On Yesterday. My personal favorite.
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Post by crash46 on Oct 25, 2009 0:37:31 GMT -5
I haven't heard any of the new stuff, and might as well wait til Tuesday and just check out the whole record at once, at this point.
But "Lip Gloss and Black" raised the bar for all hardcore metal. That song did everything right. "Bleeding Mascara" eventually substantiated themselves in that regard. They proved they could also do hard rock very well through "Ex's and Oh's" and "Becoming the Bull". "Falling Down" though, certainly a good song, but it could have been done by half the bands on the chart right now. I hope they do away with songs like that, at least for mainstream releases.
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Post by PHOBES on Oct 25, 2009 0:50:34 GMT -5
"Ex's and Oh's" is my favorite Atreyu song, and I also loved "The Theft." That whole album is a cut above the rest of their material for me. "Becoming the Bull" was a bit of a let down, and "Slow Burn" wasn't a good single choice either. I did really like "Falling Down," but I agree with crash's sentiment in that I feel it would sound much better as a Used song.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Oct 25, 2009 2:35:54 GMT -5
I loved A Deathgrip On Yesterday. My personal favorite. I certainly really like that album, myself, yet I find myself considering that my least favorite album of theirs (barely). The Curse and Suicide Notes and Butterfly Kisses easily smoke that album, but I also think part of the problem is it was really short (I threw "Her Portrait in Black" onto the front of the album and re-burned it, like it was meant to be, though) and there was such a quick turnaround between that and Lead Sails Paper Anchor the next summer.
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Post by Matt4319 on Oct 25, 2009 4:46:25 GMT -5
No one's mentioned "Right Side of the Bed" yet. It's not only my favorite Atreyu song, it's my favorite metalcore song of the decade and the only one that's going to show up on my Top 200 of the 2000s list in a couple months. It peaked at #6 on my personal chart when it was out and has only gotten better with time.
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Post by metalfan87 on Oct 28, 2009 14:38:57 GMT -5
Congregation of the Damned's projected sales according to Hits Daily Double:
28-32k
omg. it's selling low than Lead Sails Paper Anchor
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Oct 28, 2009 14:55:58 GMT -5
Congregation of the Damned's projected sales according to Hits Daily Double: 28-32k omg. it's selling low than Lead Sails Paper Anchor Lol, I honestly thought it would sell only like 25k.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Oct 30, 2009 1:27:40 GMT -5
Congregation of the Damned's projected sales according to Hits Daily Double: 28-32k omg. it's selling low than Lead Sails Paper Anchor You're surprised? "Storm to Pass" isn't lighting radio on fire and marketing/promotion for this album has been subpar, especially considering they're coming off their most successful album to date. Sad but true. To me, anyway, it seems like labels are really trying to cram too many big releases into this 4th quarter. Lots and lots of stuff will be overlooked. Not saying this is the whole reason for the album underperforming, but it certainly doesn't help.
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Post by American Idiot on Oct 30, 2009 13:35:39 GMT -5
After listening to this album last night, I can certainly see why they chose "Storm To Pass" as a single because the album as a whole seemed a lot heavier than the past few releases I've heard. None of the album tracks stood out to me otherwise as very radio friendly only from hearing them once except for "Wait For You," which is their lone ballad and a very good one I must say.
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Post by jdmasta289 on Nov 1, 2009 4:23:19 GMT -5
I see what you're saying, but I think that this will pick up and be a moderate hit, and a more everything friendly song will be released as the second single, sort of mimicking the whole Becoming The Bull/Falling Down situation from last album I hope so. Two weeks later, it still doesn't look promising, although turnover is slow in Rock Radio Land. 45 45 Up this week ATREYU Storm To Pass 170 146 +24 0.389 It's a shame to see upstart new bands get shafted with deserving material. (I actually think "Storm To Pass" was a rather weak single choice, but I have yet to listen to the album. That said, it still deserved top 10 based on band merit. I mean, half a dozen 90s bands are already guaranteed the #1 slot with pending first singles, anyway). (Edit)
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Post by metalfan87 on Nov 3, 2009 18:09:20 GMT -5
final sales
-- 17 ATREYU HOLLYWOOD 27,412 -- CONGREGATION OF THE DAMNED
i'm surprised they got top 20
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Nov 4, 2009 8:26:36 GMT -5
such a shame to see this song peaking low, i think it deserves more than that...i hope now with the release of the album, the song will resurrect
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Nov 6, 2009 16:32:26 GMT -5
With "Storm to Pass" not getting much mainstream attention, it's hard to imagine anything else gaining any traction.
As far as I'm concerned, however, "You Were the King..." and "Insatiable" are simply phenomenal.
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Post by Ron57 on Nov 6, 2009 16:34:56 GMT -5
I'm seeing these guys tomorrow. Favorites from the album are You Were the King.., Bleeding is a Luxury, Gallows, and Congregation of the Damned. I'm still upset that Hollywood Undead are playing last though. They have one album. What are they goona do with a 12 song setlist (in fact I think it's more than that). Plus an encore. No one likes them that much. Really.
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Post by American Idiot on Nov 7, 2009 1:40:03 GMT -5
Hollywood Undead is above Atreyu? WOW. What is this world coming to?
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Nov 7, 2009 2:18:36 GMT -5
I'm still upset that Hollywood Undead are playing last though. Great! You can leave early, then. I can't imagine there not being a considerable exodus after Atreyu play. Thankfully this tour didn't come to my city, so I don't have to be disappointed/horrified if that weren't the case.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Nov 7, 2009 3:26:34 GMT -5
Haha my sister's first rock concert was this summer when she went away to Brown to take summer classes at a summer program for high school students. She saw Hollywood Undead.
Then I took her to see Sevendust and Porcupine Tree. =)
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