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Post by Keelzit on Oct 2, 2009 13:55:00 GMT -5
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Post by bibliotheque on Oct 2, 2009 13:58:32 GMT -5
seriously death @ ALL the britney fans coming in here and just saying AWFUL, MESS etc Did y'all PM each other to plan your attack?  |
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Post by Keelzit on Oct 2, 2009 14:02:52 GMT -5
seriously death @ ALL the britney fans coming in here and just saying AWFUL, MESS etc Did y'all PM each other to plan your attack? I didn't know that a Brit fan's opinion on Gaga was received as an attack in here. Please forgive me holy Gagatron. |
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Post by bibliotheque on Oct 2, 2009 14:03:57 GMT -5
seriously death @ ALL the britney fans coming in here and just saying AWFUL, MESS etc Did y'all PM each other to plan your attack? I didn't know that a Brit fan's opinion on Gaga was received as an attack in here. Please forgive me holy Gagatron. I'll consider it. |
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Post by Monroe on Oct 2, 2009 14:05:01 GMT -5
seriously death @ ALL the britney fans coming in here and just saying AWFUL, MESS etc Did y'all PM each other to plan your attack?  Anyway, I hope what they do post-production is better then what was heard. The song needs to be tweaked I can accept the fact that this is a Poker Face redux/clone. But I'm a need something to be done about that bridge at the very least. I hope they flesh out the chorus and turn it into something more then "ra-ra-ra-ah-ah". But that may be too much to ask for. |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 2, 2009 14:06:32 GMT -5
It is strange to note that every person shrieking that it is a huge mess and terrible has certain other musical preferences. Maybe Gaga just isn't your thing?
I will wait to start my shrieking since she said it was a demo that makes her OWN ears bleed. Obviously not a finished version and I won't judge it as such.
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Post by Monroe on Oct 2, 2009 14:09:01 GMT -5
It is strange to note that every person shrieking that it is a huge mess and terrible has certain other musical preferences. Maybe Gaga just isn't your thing? Not really. Gaga is my fifth most played artist in the past two years. So the argument that she isn't my "liking" is false as her singles have faired extremely well on my own personal chart (Poker Face #1, Just Dance #2, Paparazzi #2, LoveGame #3, Beautiful Dirty Rich #5, etc.) Why is there an issue with criticism when it comes to Gaga. Is she above reproach or something? There isn't something wrong with a person just because they aren't flailing around in there seat after listening to this. Perhaps the problem for some of us is that this isn't as great, fresh nor as interesting/"innovative" (lyrically or production-wise) as her previous songs? |
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Post by EPG on Oct 2, 2009 14:10:16 GMT -5
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Post by JayBoozer on Oct 2, 2009 14:11:06 GMT -5
This isn't even the final version. It's a demo. The song sounds VERY promising, I already have the chorus stuck in my head.
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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Oct 2, 2009 14:11:23 GMT -5
Why is there an issue with criticism when it comes to Gaga. Is she above reproach or something? Yes. anyway, this is so hot omg i can't stop listening. |
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Post by Monroe on Oct 2, 2009 14:12:07 GMT -5
I can do you one better. One word. Pointless. |
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Post by picklerclarkson on Oct 2, 2009 14:14:35 GMT -5
Sounds very promising. Glad its not another PF/ JD type song.
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Post by bibliotheque on Oct 2, 2009 14:15:15 GMT -5
seriously death @ ALL the britney fans coming in here and just saying AWFUL, MESS etc Did y'all PM each other to plan your attack? Anyway, I hope what they do post-production is better then what was heard. The song needs to be tweaked I can accept the fact that this is a Poker Face redux/clone. But I'm a need something to be done about that bridge at the very least. I hope they flesh out the chorus and turn it into something more then "ra-ra-ra-ah-ah". But that may be too much to ask for. Just so you know the bridge is 3 lines: You know that I want you Then you that I need you I want a bad, a bad, a bad romance and the chorus is: I want your love and I want your revenge You and me throughout a bad romance (oh oh) I want your love and all your lovers revenge You and me throughout a bad romance (oh oh) Call it a bad romance (oh oh oh) Call it a bad romance (oh oh oh) /Caught in a bad romance - I'm not too sure. The ra ra ra bit is one of the hooks. |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 2, 2009 14:16:11 GMT -5
It is strange to note that every person shrieking that it is a huge mess and terrible has certain other musical preferences. Maybe Gaga just isn't your thing? Not really. Gaga is my fifth most played artist in the past two years. So the argument that she isn't my "liking" is false as her singles have faired extremely well on my own personal chart (Poker Face #1, Just Dance #2, Paparazzi #2, LoveGame #3, Beautiful Dirty Rich #5, etc.) Why is there an issue with criticism when it comes to Gaga. Is she above reproach or something? There isn't something wrong with a person just because they aren't flailing around in there seat after listening to this. Perhaps the problem for some of us is that this isn't as great, fresh nor as interesting/"innovative" (lyrically or production-wise) as her previous songs? I wasn't referring to you-my reply just happened to come near your last reply. It just seems everyone shrieking about how its the worst song ever likes a different type of music or is into a different type of pop sound. Sometimes it is more than just not liking a song versus just not liking a sound or artist. I am surprised you seem to love Gaga so much though because I remember you criticizing a lot of her past songs? That is cool though-I guess we do have more artists in common that we both love :) I have decided not to download this-I just think it would be worthless when it isn't the actual song really. I may after we get the actual final version. |
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Post by Monroe on Oct 2, 2009 14:17:56 GMT -5
Yeah I don't even remember that part of the song, so that pretty much says everything that I was trying to say before in my previous posts. Not nearly as strong or as memorable as some of her previous songs as I don't even remember half of the song. And that bridge section needs to be worked on, it sounds messy.
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 2, 2009 14:21:53 GMT -5
Y'know what I find amusing? The Britney fans are crying foul that they're being accused of fan-trolling by stating dislike for this yet the only people finding criticism so far are the Britney fans. Not saying that it's some co-ordinated fan effort but it is a pretty compelling coincidence IMO.  The whole 'you-can't-criticize' thing goes both ways. No-one (GaGa fan, Britney fan or otherwise) should be climbing on their high horses in the name of one or the other just because someone else maybe *doesn't* like X song while the former does and seemingly fandom-oriented criticism doesn't exactly do wonders for one's objectivity. |
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Post by bibliotheque on Oct 2, 2009 14:23:19 GMT -5
Yeah I don't even remember that part of the song, so that pretty much says everything that I was trying to say before in my previous posts. Not nearly as strong or as memorable as some of her previous songs as I don't even remember half of the song. And that bridge section needs to be worked on, it sounds messy. So you're criticising the song and saying bits need work on etc without even remembering the song other than ra ra ra ra? Maybe you should give it some more listens/pay attention to the chorus when you hear it so that you can actually pass comment on it or just wait for the final version. |
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Post by JayBoozer on Oct 2, 2009 14:24:00 GMT -5
Yeah I don't even remember that part of the song, so that pretty much says everything that I was trying to say before in my previous posts. Not nearly as strong or as memorable as some of her previous songs as I don't even remember half of the song. And that bridge section needs to be worked on, it sounds messy. PLEASE wait til you hear the real version before you make such a criticism. It may be that all those things are not true of the real version. |
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Post by Monroe on Oct 2, 2009 14:24:32 GMT -5
I am surprised you seem to love Gaga so much though because I remember you criticizing a lot of her past songs? I don't remember criticizing the production of her songs sans Paparazzi. I even wrote a glowing recommendation about "Paparazzi" in the thread on this board. I have stated that I don't think she's written a fully great song, there are bits and pieces of her songs that are truly amazing, the verses to Poker Face, the chorus to Paparazzi and LoveGame, and the bridge in Just Dance. But I have yet to hear a song from her where everything was perfect and well placed. It seems like she writes a great bit here and there and just creates a song out of it. But for the most part I have always thought "The Fame" was an incredibly well produced album which is why Gaga is one of my most played artists. I am not getting anything out of this as of yet though. Hopefully the do something about the structure of this song because it does seem incredibly messy. |
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Post by Monroe on Oct 2, 2009 14:25:59 GMT -5
Y'know what I find amusing? The Britney fans are crying foul that they're being accused of fan-trolling by stating dislike for this yet the only people finding criticism so far are the Britney fans. Not saying that it's some co-ordinated fan effort but it is a pretty compelling coincidence IMO. There have been negative comments from posters about this song that aren't Britney fans. Even Gaga said the demo made her ears bleed. So it's not just "fan bias" as some would like to say. |
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Post by bibliotheque on Oct 2, 2009 14:33:41 GMT -5
Y'know what I find amusing? The Britney fans are crying foul that they're being accused of fan-trolling by stating dislike for this yet the only people finding criticism so far are the Britney fans. Not saying that it's some co-ordinated fan effort but it is a pretty compelling coincidence IMO. There have been negative comments from posters about this song that aren't Britney fans. Even Gaga said the demo made her ears bleed. So it's not just "fan bias" as some would like to say. Only 'didn't like it' and the last one are negative comments, and for the last one you missed out the "I guess *shrugs*" which shows they aren't that against it, they're just mutual for the song - not exaclty negative. So that's one person who doesn't like it that doesn't have britney avatar/sig. |
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Post by Monroe on Oct 2, 2009 14:39:44 GMT -5
Talk about splitting hairs. It's obvious from the responses I posted above the response has been lack luster for them (at the very least) compared to what they were expecting from her which was my main point. Add in Gaga's own disapproval with it and numerous other posters who just happen to be Britney fans and I feel there is a collective group who are disappointed in this demo due to it's own quality. Which pretty much ruins the theory that this is some fan coup just trying to "bring Gaga down". You may love it. Great. But that doesn't change the fact that there are people who wanted more from this.
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Post by bibliotheque on Oct 2, 2009 14:43:14 GMT -5
EURGH
this. is. a. demo. not. the. final. version. which. people. "wanted more from".
enough of this crap.
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Post by orta17 on Oct 2, 2009 14:52:05 GMT -5
Yea i was expecting more..this song is going to sound similar even reword, i mean it has to or it will just be an entire differnt song..but anyways not my favorite song its missing the gaga spark!
i like the main chorus though
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Post by bigb0882 on Oct 2, 2009 14:52:26 GMT -5
Well I am glad to hear this is a demo and that even Gaga wasn't happy with it. That must mean the finished version is much better. I will give it a shot but I am not sure I can ever like the verses unless the song was reworked to some degree. The things I don't like have to do with more than just the "quality" of the demo, IMO.
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Post by Haley on Oct 2, 2009 15:27:58 GMT -5
I hope her voice sounds better on the finished version.
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Post by circadian on Oct 2, 2009 15:36:18 GMT -5
Lyrics anyone?
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Post by David on Oct 2, 2009 15:38:08 GMT -5
I can't wait to hear the finished version.
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 2, 2009 15:48:46 GMT -5
Talk about splitting hairs. It's obvious from the responses I posted above the response has been lack luster for them (at the very least) compared to what they were expecting from her which was my main point. Add in Gaga's own disapproval with it and numerous other posters who just happen to be Britney fans and I feel there is a collective group who are disappointed in this demo due to it's own quality. Which pretty much ruins the theory that this is some fan coup just trying to "bring Gaga down". You may love it. Great. But that doesn't change the fact that there are people who wanted more from this. I never said it was a fan coup. I was just stating that from what I'd seen the only detractory statements came from Britney fans and/or supporters. Pure coincidence had that been a case - not a coup. |
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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Oct 2, 2009 15:53:35 GMT -5
I wish everybody would stop fighting.
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