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Post by pen on Mar 20, 2010 12:48:14 GMT -5
Whoa, there. I rarely if ever have a point.
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Post by lockebox on Mar 20, 2010 12:56:32 GMT -5
I think Artie is being dead serious. Yes, I could say everything about the song is "poor". It's an opinion. There are no rules as how to evaluate a song. This is all about opinion, that's why I don't understand what Artie's going on about.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Mar 20, 2010 17:15:11 GMT -5
I wasn't sure I'd have to explain because it's so obvious and already noted. The person who said a poor song is charting so high is basically saying it shouldn't be getting airplay because he didn't like it. One's opinion of any song has no basis of what the listeners and PDs are getting out there on the airwaves successfully. I was only pointing out a weak argument, and I don't even remember who posted it. The other point is this is the most competitive field of songs Modern has seen since I can't remember when.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Mar 22, 2010 2:20:16 GMT -5
For the record, I think it's bullshit that this song is now a stone's throw away from #1. "Resistance" better quit fooling around and ramp up a ton more airplay these next couple weeks.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Mar 22, 2010 13:13:20 GMT -5
Catchiest song out there now. No reason it shouldn't rule the top for a few weeks.
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Post by The Party Captain on Mar 22, 2010 15:38:00 GMT -5
I wasn't sure I'd have to explain because it's so obvious and already noted. The person who said a poor song is charting so high is basically saying it shouldn't be getting airplay because he didn't like it. One's opinion of any song has no basis of what the listeners and PDs are getting out there on the airwaves successfully. I was only pointing out a weak argument, and I don't even remember who posted it. The other point is this is the most competitive field of songs Modern has seen since I can't remember when. At the same time, there are some songs that just don't seem radio-friendly. For example, I have yet to find anyone I know, outside of here, who can actually listen to "Cousins" by Vampire Weekend without cringing. Some people may find it quirky and fresh, while many others find it annoying and forced.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Mar 22, 2010 17:58:59 GMT -5
I'm really hoping the new STP song charges up and keeps this out of #1. This isn't that bad, but it does not deserve #1.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Mar 22, 2010 20:14:27 GMT -5
If it gets the most spins in a 168 hour period, how is that not deserving? By the definition alone it would deserve #1.
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Post by lockebox on Mar 22, 2010 20:27:05 GMT -5
Here we go again. In Shadowscorp's opinion, Artie, this song isn't deserving of hitting #1. I happen to share that view.
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Mar 22, 2010 20:27:28 GMT -5
If it gets the most spins in a 168 hour period, how is that not deserving? By the definition alone it would deserve #1. Hey now, I like the song too, but you don't have to be CHR-board-level annoying about it.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 22, 2010 20:56:45 GMT -5
I'm really hoping the new STP song charges up and keeps this out of #1. This isn't that bad, but it does not deserve #1. I haven't heard the full STP song, but from the clip I heard...isn't the new STP song, if anything, worse than this? While I don't love this song, there have been way more offensive #1 songs that people haven't complained about nearly as much as this. I mean this destroys Green Day - "Know Your Enemy". And hey, people were complaining that no one can get to #1 on alternative except core artists. Yet in the past two years we've had Kings Of Leon (they were not a core artist before), Anberlin, Silversun Pickups (on Billboard), Phoenix, Cage The Elephant, and now potentially these guys. And while I'd put "Panic Switch" in a whole other league than this and say that "Feel Good Drag" was substantially better as well, "Mountan Man" is certainly not significantly worse IMO than "Sex On Fire", "Back Against The Wall" or "1901". Plus, don't worry; there is a quite POOR song on the rise that this might LAY DOWN for in the near future. God, I hope "Lay Me Down" doesn't hit #1, but you never know. But hey if it does, it's deserving. ;)
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Mar 22, 2010 21:12:37 GMT -5
jvandyck? Are you seriously basing the STP song on a 20 second clip to be worse than this song? This song isn't really bad at all, however I find it funny that you've made your mind up over a short clip that it would be worse. Of course, everything being subjective, in the end it may very well be to a lot of listeners.
This may DESTROY "Know Your Enemy" to you but it doesn't to me. Not even close. Personally, I do think this is getting higher than I would have expected from a new artist. The song is okay but doesn't scream number one single to me. If it gets there though it obviously has the fans somewhere to get there. I mean PD's might be dumb sometimes but this song must not be getting the negative reviews from listeners to make them stop playing it.
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Post by The Party Captain on Mar 22, 2010 22:44:58 GMT -5
Know Your Enemy screamed guilty pleasure to me.
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Post by American Idiot on Mar 22, 2010 22:52:21 GMT -5
I feel the same way. I like the song. It's very catchy and sounds a lot like The White Stripes and Cage The Elephant to me, but if I still had time to make a personal chart, this probably wouldn't make my Top 10. There are many better songs that I'd rather see hit #1. Really, it surprises me that a band with a debut single these days can rise that high, but like it was being discussed in another thread, the chart isn't having a whole lot of major activity right now with any future HUGE hits on the horizon.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Mar 26, 2010 7:00:27 GMT -5
12 spins from #1. Sigh.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 26, 2010 7:20:47 GMT -5
I'm surprised "Resistance" isn't putting up much resistance.
....haha see what I did there? *nudge nudge* That's a real knee-slapper.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Mar 26, 2010 8:48:06 GMT -5
But who will deny a real Mountain Man from reaching the top?
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 26, 2010 10:36:14 GMT -5
Haha well played sir!
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Mar 26, 2010 13:18:19 GMT -5
Yeah, pun city around here all of a sudden!
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Post by The Party Captain on Mar 26, 2010 15:37:41 GMT -5
But who will deny a real Mountain Man from reaching the top? Especially now that the Uprising has passed.
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Post by lockebox on Mar 26, 2010 18:30:39 GMT -5
But who will deny a real Mountain Man from reaching the top? I dk but, this chart is in need of a savior ;)
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Mar 27, 2010 11:04:25 GMT -5
How is that?
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 27, 2010 11:21:12 GMT -5
If "Savior" went to #1 in the near future, it would absolutely destroy the record, having taken 40+ weeks to reach the top spot. Unlikely to happen at this point though.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Mar 27, 2010 11:23:54 GMT -5
I would hope not. That song is terrible for me.
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Post by Cody on Mar 27, 2010 11:25:51 GMT -5
I'd much prefer Savior at #1 over this piece of crap
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Mar 27, 2010 11:30:45 GMT -5
Luckily as of this morning it's at #5 with a -9. That won't be happening this week. Unless something weird happens this weekend, we have a new set of Kings ruling Modern.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Mar 27, 2010 13:12:53 GMT -5
#1 on Alternative:
5 1 CRASH KINGS Mountain Man 1629 1387 242 6.016
Oh boy, another lackluster #1. Hopefully STP charges up soon.
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Mar 27, 2010 13:15:10 GMT -5
IMO, it can stay for as long as it wants
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Post by fran182 on Mar 30, 2010 13:17:29 GMT -5
Easily my least favorite Alternative #1 in a long long time.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Apr 13, 2010 11:21:06 GMT -5
Top 30 on Active:
37 30 CRASH KINGS Mountain Man 318 285 33 0.77
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