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Post by Live Your Life on Jun 14, 2014 8:50:54 GMT -5
Apparently, they're dropped from Epic Records. Whose bright was it to sign with L.A. Reid again, anyway? He royally f**ked them over at LaFace, and he has pretty much sabotaged Epic. Says who?? They're no longer on Epic Record's roster. They said in the interview (can't remember which one) that they were not dropped from Epic...it was only one album deal, for the hits '20'. I remember there being articles, around the time of their biopic, stating that they were recording new material for an album.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jun 22, 2014 17:47:46 GMT -5
Why isn't there a credit of any kind for The O'Jay's "Back Stabbers" on "Case of the Fake People" off CSC?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 22, 2014 18:06:09 GMT -5
^That happens sometimes. For instance, there was no sample credit for Sly & the Family Stone on Rhythm Nation 1814, but one does appear on the Number Ones album. And, of course, "Ice Ice Baby" may be the mot classic example.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jun 22, 2014 18:19:26 GMT -5
^That happens sometimes. For instance, there was no sample credit for Sly & the Family Stone on Rhythm Nation 1814, but one does appear on the Number Ones album. And, of course, "Ice Ice Baby" may be the mot classic example. Well, RN came out before sampling was a thing in terms of legal issues. I don't think Beastie Boys albums in the 80s listed samples either? But CSC does list samples on some songs, so it's weird that it doesn't for "COTFP."
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Post by allow that on Aug 16, 2014 12:00:23 GMT -5
T-Boz is featured on a new single coming out of New Zealand right now called "In My Hands.". Also, there's this. She seems so fun!
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Post by Resident_Evil on Aug 16, 2014 13:20:55 GMT -5
#FalseAlarm Every time I see this thread updated, my heart skips a beat.
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Post by Live Your Life on Sept 21, 2014 22:40:35 GMT -5
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Post by allow that on Sept 21, 2014 22:42:57 GMT -5
"Silly Ho" is officially the best song that Kelly Clarkson ever sang now.
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Post by Queen of Insomnia. on Sept 22, 2014 8:10:09 GMT -5
Silly Ho must be the most awkward lullaby ever.... But, anything that works for her xD
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Post by George on Sept 29, 2014 13:26:52 GMT -5
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 29, 2014 17:31:55 GMT -5
Someone had posted earlier than T-Boz didn't sing a lick on "No Scrubs" and Chili didn't on "Creep." Is that actually true? Why wouldn't they do even background vocals? Not like they're Milli Vanilli.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 17:35:46 GMT -5
People always say that but I swear I can hear T Boz in the background of No Scrubs.
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Post by allow that on Sept 29, 2014 21:43:42 GMT -5
People always say that but I swear I can hear T Boz in the background of No Scrubs. Yes. I thought I always heard obvious Chilli vocals during the chorus in "Creep" as well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 4:51:54 GMT -5
I feel like Debra Killings was just really good at emulating both of their voices.
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Post by darko95 on Sept 30, 2014 6:05:46 GMT -5
Always hype to hear their music. They should work with Drake and 40. I know T Boz really likes them.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 30, 2014 8:48:16 GMT -5
But, again, why would they not have sung on any TLC tracks? Left Eye, I can understand, as she was a rapper, and if the track didn't have a rap, no Left Eye.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 16:52:55 GMT -5
I'm still not 100% convinced they weren't on those tracks but people have always been suspicious because during the recording of their albums, a lot of the time the girls were all in different cities working with different producers at different times. I think T-Boz was always in Atlanta and Chilli was in New York a lot, and so people figured that rather than have them fly out and record background vocals just for the sake of having them on the track, they'd just get studio singers like Debra and Kandi to do the background vocals.
I still like to think they each contributed backgrounds to the bulk of songs in their catalogue though.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Oct 1, 2014 8:23:59 GMT -5
Hmmm, that would be an odd recording process for a group. But, the way the girls got together wasn't the norm, either, so who knows.
Were "Creep" and "No Scrubs" the only ones that have been singled out?
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Post by Jay D83 on Oct 1, 2014 11:02:08 GMT -5
Someone had posted earlier than T-Boz didn't sing a lick on "No Scrubs" and Chili didn't on "Creep." Is that actually true? Why wouldn't they do even background vocals? Not like they're Milli Vanilli. It's true. I tracked down the liner notes. Chili didn't sing on Creep and T-Boz wasn't on No Scrubs. ETA: After reading all of FANMAIL'S liner notes, Debra Killings did 90% of the BVs alone, so they NEVER sang on the same track. What an odd way for a "group" to do an album.
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Post by allow that on Oct 1, 2014 11:06:07 GMT -5
STUNNED :o
Also dang, they had 2/4 of Xscape singing backup on "No Scrubs."
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Post by HolidayGuy on Oct 1, 2014 11:29:32 GMT -5
That is odd. Re Fanmail- at least T-Boz and Chili did both sing on "Unpretty."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 15:32:09 GMT -5
It seemed like they were hardly even getting along during FanMail, so it's really not surprising that the album was largely made up of solo T-Boz and Chilli songs with Left Eye raps tacked on to some of them. That's something that's definitely come across in interviews. The girls were more like business colleagues than buddies.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Oct 1, 2014 16:58:38 GMT -5
We got the impression it was Left Eye "vs." the other two, but maybe it was tumultuous across the board.
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Post by Ginger Spice on Oct 1, 2014 17:16:35 GMT -5
I remember in FanMail era interviews Chilli was talking about recording both "No Scrubs" and "I Miss You So Much" by herself, no mention of the other two. She said she knocked out "Scrubs" in around five hours (which, the way she said it, made me assume that her voice was the last thing to be added), and she flew out to LA by herself to do "I Miss You So Much" with Babyface (random tidbit: she also had the flu when she recorded it). I wouldn't be surprised if they just used Debra to save the money and hassle of flying out multiple members to sing back up, when, like Jazzy said, Debra can emulate T-Boz and Chilli so well. That's probably why she's used on all of their albums.
Though I really thought Chilli was on "Creep." I always thought that she at least did the "whoo" after "If he knew the things I did" part, but I probably thought that because of the video. I still find it hilarious that Chilli only sings the verses on "Take Our Time" and the rest is Debra.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 19:51:56 GMT -5
Did they have any relationship, personal or professional, with Debra? I'd imagine they had to be on good terms with her for her to be on every CD.
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Post by Live Your Life on Oct 1, 2014 20:03:07 GMT -5
I mean, I guess I always knew in the back of my mind, but I didn't realize just how much Debra sang on their songs until reading this thread. Even on songs like "Case of the Fake People" and "Come on Down," Debra is doing all the harmonies and Chili and T-Boz are layered on top. I wonder why they even made a decision to do this? It's not like Debra was doing anything vocally that they couldn't have.
I can also see why Left Eye built up so much animosity towards them by the time the "Fanmail" era came around; she basically played no part in the creative process. Her role got smaller and smaller as they released albums.
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Post by Ginger Spice on Oct 1, 2014 22:12:57 GMT -5
Did they have any relationship, personal or professional, with Debra? I'd imagine they had to be on good terms with her for her to be on every CD. I was wondering the same thing. The more you think about it, the more odd it is. She's on the CrazySexyCool and FanMail probably more than Left Eye. She's basically the fourth member. I always wondered if she was somehow associated with Dallas Austin since he does a good chunk of TLC's catalogue, but she's featured even on songs that aren't produced or written by him.
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Oct 1, 2014 23:02:40 GMT -5
Bish. "In Your Arms Tonight". Goodnite <3
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Post by SHOOTER on Oct 2, 2014 2:39:46 GMT -5
I thought it was old news that Debra was the secret fourth member of TLC.
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Post by Hashtag Pow on Oct 2, 2014 11:18:10 GMT -5
Right. Debra is featured on more TLC songs than the actual members of TLC.
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