pen
9x Platinum Member
A true gentleman leaves no puzzle unsolved.
Joined: July 2005
Posts: 9,408
|
Post by pen on Feb 11, 2010 16:18:01 GMT -5
I think it's amazing they managed to push eight singles from the album and none of them are even the good ones.
|
|
|
|
Post by metalfan87 on Feb 11, 2010 16:24:49 GMT -5
baloney. So Happy, Bad Girlfriend and Hate My Life are three good singles
|
|
pen
9x Platinum Member
A true gentleman leaves no puzzle unsolved.
Joined: July 2005
Posts: 9,408
|
Post by pen on Feb 11, 2010 16:26:39 GMT -5
baloney. So Happy, Bad Girlfriend and Hate My Life are three good singles If you like slices of terrible cheese, sure. "Sacrifice" is easily the best song on that album, and it's sadly the last one. The whole album should've been like that song, but I guess that's not what sold at the time, although rock seems to be slowly recovering. |
|
|
|
Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Feb 11, 2010 17:45:27 GMT -5
and you know what's more sad? their sales would have been even better if "All or Nothing" was a single in the states, it's by far the most radio-friendly song from that album..i think it's easy to figure out that even if they will finally decide to release it, it won't be included in rock stations because its by far the softest song of that era
|
|
Cody
6x Platinum Member
Joined: August 2008
Posts: 6,692
|
Post by Cody on Feb 11, 2010 19:13:30 GMT -5
and you know what's more sad? their sales would have been even better if "All or Nothing" was a single in the states, it's by far the most radio-friendly song from that album..i think it's easy to figure out that even if they will finally decide to release it, it won't be included in rock stations because its by far the softest song of that era no, it's heavier than Not Meant To Be and way heavier than Wait For Me |
|
|
|
Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Feb 11, 2010 20:01:41 GMT -5
i forgot about Wait for Me, either way, in canada is their most successful single from this era, i think is stupid not to release it here
|
|
Pipa
Diamond Member
Sinner
1 week at #1: Of Monsters and Men - Alligator
Joined: December 2004
Posts: 10,448 
My Charts
|
Post by Pipa on Feb 11, 2010 20:04:04 GMT -5
i forgot about Wait for Me, either way, in canada is their most successful single from this era, i think is stupid not to release it here I think "Not Meant To Be" was their most successful here in Canada, what with it being a hit on both pop and rock. |
|
|
|
Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Feb 11, 2010 20:06:04 GMT -5
all or nothing peaked at #25, not meant to be peaked at #53
|
|
|
|
Post by Shadows in the Dark on Feb 14, 2010 11:50:24 GMT -5
This song's much better than Hate My Life.
|
|
lockebox
5x Platinum Member
Joined: April 2009
Posts: 5,739
|
Post by lockebox on Feb 14, 2010 11:57:56 GMT -5
This song's much better than Hate My Life. Well, that doesn't take much. I'm getting sick of all this cock rock. |
|
Cody
6x Platinum Member
Joined: August 2008
Posts: 6,692
|
Post by Cody on Feb 14, 2010 12:03:29 GMT -5
Hate My Life isn't really "cock rock" as much as it is "I hate everything and the world revolves around me rock" but it's still a great song  |
|
lockebox
5x Platinum Member
Joined: April 2009
Posts: 5,739
|
Post by lockebox on Feb 14, 2010 16:51:28 GMT -5
Hate My Life isn't really "cock rock" as much as it is "I hate everything and the world revolves around me rock" but it's still a great song "I hate how my wife is always up my ass". "How come I never get laid?". Ohh its cock rock alright. |
|
Cody
6x Platinum Member
Joined: August 2008
Posts: 6,692
|
Post by Cody on Feb 14, 2010 18:13:46 GMT -5
dude that's like one line in the entire song. The rest of the song isn't like that
|
|
lockebox
5x Platinum Member
Joined: April 2009
Posts: 5,739
|
Post by lockebox on Feb 14, 2010 18:35:26 GMT -5
I actually quoted two lines haha. Anyway, for me, It's cock rock.
|
|
Nicholas2.0
6x Platinum Member
Joined: September 2003
Posts: 6,666
|
Post by Nicholas2.0 on Feb 15, 2010 4:20:39 GMT -5
dude that's like one line in the entire song. The rest of the song isn't like that "B***h, you better get outta the way before I start falling apart"? "I hate that I can't tell when a girl's underage"? "I tell her she's a nice piece of ass"? "So if you're pissed like me"? "Put your middle fingers up in the air, go on and say "Fuck you!"? I beg to differ. |
|
|
|
Post by American Idiot on Feb 15, 2010 13:59:07 GMT -5
I have to agree. I have "Scars & Souvenirs" and while it's not a bad album and nor is TOAD as a band, I think I'm just getting sick and tired of most of the post-grunge bands in general since so many of them are heading towards the cock rock direction. It seems that almost every post-grunge song I hear now spreads the message "My girl cheated on me and I'm depressed so I'm going to show that bitch what's up by breaking everything she has!"
|
|
|
|
Post by singingsparrow on Feb 15, 2010 14:34:42 GMT -5
I have to agree. I have "Scars & Souvenirs" and while it's not a bad album and nor is TOAD as a band, I think I'm just getting sick and tired of most of the post-grunge bands in general since so many of them are heading towards the cock rock direction. It seems that almost every post-grunge song I hear now spreads the message "My girl cheated on me and I'm depressed so I'm going to show that b***h what's up by breaking everything she has!" I actually feel that "Little Smirk", like "Hate My Life", is intended to come across as a semi-novelty song, highlighting the absurdity of how far one could go to get back at someone for cheating (kidnapping a baby, for instance).................though it's still a terrible song as it is and whether it's intended as novelty or not doesn't make it any better and/or spare it from any smidgen of harsh criticism.............primarily because you know many listeners will mindlessly interpret it as a reasonable payback song.  Sincerely, Lisping Hibiscus |
|
jvandyck87
5x Platinum Member
Joined: July 2007
Posts: 5,213
|
Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 15, 2010 15:15:06 GMT -5
"Little Smirk" is at least somewhat clever. "Hate My Life" is plain juvenile. "Little Smirk" is also a tad bit interesting musically. "Hate My Life" is just a bunch of I, IV, and V chords. It might as well be out of the '60s.
|
|
Cody
6x Platinum Member
Joined: August 2008
Posts: 6,692
|
Post by Cody on Feb 15, 2010 17:29:43 GMT -5
dude that's like one line in the entire song. The rest of the song isn't like that "B***h, you better get outta the way before I start falling apart"? "I hate that I can't tell when a girl's underage"? "I tell her she's a nice piece of ass"? "So if you're pissed like me"? "Put your middle fingers up in the air, go on and say "f**k you!"? I beg to differ. 2/5 are "cock-rocky." If the other 3 are, then that means that any song containing rebelling or angry lyrics would have to constitute as cock-rock, meaning that every rock song is. Basically the main purpose of this song is not about random sex. |
|
pen
9x Platinum Member
A true gentleman leaves no puzzle unsolved.
Joined: July 2005
Posts: 9,408
|
Post by pen on Feb 15, 2010 23:54:24 GMT -5
A song doesn't have to be about sex to be cock rock.
|
|
Cody
6x Platinum Member
Joined: August 2008
Posts: 6,692
|
Post by Cody on Feb 16, 2010 13:28:24 GMT -5
A song doesn't have to be about sex to be cock rock. then like I said if its an angry or rebelling song then it has to be cock rock if Hate My Life is... and most active rock songs nowadays are angry |
|
pen
9x Platinum Member
A true gentleman leaves no puzzle unsolved.
Joined: July 2005
Posts: 9,408
|
Post by pen on Feb 16, 2010 23:53:13 GMT -5
When you rock do you take your cock out? That is the question.
|
|
jvandyck87
5x Platinum Member
Joined: July 2007
Posts: 5,213
|
Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 17, 2010 1:05:09 GMT -5
"B***h, you better get outta the way before I start falling apart"? "I hate that I can't tell when a girl's underage"? "I tell her she's a nice piece of ass"? "So if you're pissed like me"? "Put your middle fingers up in the air, go on and say "f**k you!"? I beg to differ. 2/5 are "cock-rocky." If the other 3 are, then that means that any song containing rebelling or angry lyrics would have to constitute as cock-rock, meaning that every rock song is. Basically the main purpose of this song is not about random sex. It's not whether a song is angry or not. It's the tough guy misogynist attitude that makes it cock rock. A song that says "I'm pissed" and "Fuck You" and makes no attempt to be artistic in its expression of anger is likely going to trend towards cock rock. Nine Inch Nails - "Closer" somehow avoids feeling like cock rock lyrically, because there's something very poetic and deliberate about every word in that song. If you want to differentiate the tough guy mentality from the sex anthems of Buckcherry and Nickelback that typify cock rock, then we can say that songs like "Crying Like A Bitch", "Hell Yeah", and "You're Going Down" are wrestler rock or something like that. But the general idea is that these cock rock songs and wrestler anthems aren't the most emotionally and intellectually stimulating songs on the active rock chart. |
|
Nicholas2.0
6x Platinum Member
Joined: September 2003
Posts: 6,666
|
Post by Nicholas2.0 on Feb 17, 2010 5:29:54 GMT -5
When you rock do you take your cock out? That is the question. If you do, then none other than Lemmy Kilmister says it'll "please your lady friends."  (If Motörhead's song "Rock Out" is to be believed. ;)) It's not whether a song is angry or not. It's the tough guy misogynist attitude that makes it cock rock. A song that says "I'm pissed" and "f**k You" and makes no attempt to be artistic in its expression of anger is likely going to trend towards cock rock. Nine Inch Nails - "Closer" somehow avoids feeling like cock rock lyrically, because there's something very poetic and deliberate about every word in that song. If you want to differentiate the tough guy mentality from the sex anthems of Buckcherry and Nickelback that typify cock rock, then we can say that songs like "Crying Like A b***h", "Hell Yeah", and "You're Going Down" are wrestler rock or something like that. But the general idea is that these cock rock songs and wrestler anthems aren't the most emotionally and intellectually stimulating songs on the active rock chart. This. |
|
|
|
Post by metalfan87 on Feb 21, 2010 9:07:52 GMT -5
top 20 in Active
22 20 THEORY OF A DEADMAN Little Smirk 781 687 94 2.068
|
|
|
|
Post by Shadows in the Dark on Feb 21, 2010 10:54:09 GMT -5
Well what do you know? Their 5th Top 20.
|
|
![Jorge_Str [Som3on3] Avatar](http://storage.proboards.com/1258812/avatar/Ckf_SvW4JZTB5VouxIVv.jpg)
