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Post by metalfan87 on Dec 16, 2009 16:28:30 GMT -5
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Post by jvandyck87 on Dec 16, 2009 17:33:22 GMT -5
Here comes the cheesy ballad. While "Invincible" has done quite well on active rock, are they sure they've established themselves with enough rock cred to pull this off? I know it's the Hinder - Extreme Behavior model, but I think the rock crowd seems to have soured on them too. My guess is this song might struggle to do well enough on rock for it to even reach its crossover potential. Maybe as a third single it would have done the trick.
I hope I'm right because this band reeks of insincerity almost as much as their role models.
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Post by metalfan87 on Dec 17, 2009 9:32:32 GMT -5
when I first heard the song, the first riffs sounded like "It's Not Over" by Daughtry
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Post by lockebox on Dec 17, 2009 10:00:01 GMT -5
... Not hearing that.
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Post by pen on Dec 17, 2009 10:06:26 GMT -5
You have to kind of unfocus to really hear any similarity. Both progression and overall sound are too different to be really similar. They're both just acoustic openings. I can see why someone would make that comparison though.
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Post by PHOBES on Dec 17, 2009 14:23:35 GMT -5
It took forever but I finally started to like "Invincible" a bit, but by then I had gotten sick of hearing it, lol. I'll give this a listen, but I'm not expecting much from the comments.
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Post by Cody on Dec 17, 2009 17:25:10 GMT -5
when I first heard the song, the first riffs sounded like "It's Not Over" by Daughtry which means they would also sound like Fuel's Hemorrhage
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Post by pen on Dec 17, 2009 19:05:14 GMT -5
Obviously all acoustic parts sound the same regardless of things like chord progression, octave, guitar style, or common sense.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Dec 17, 2009 19:25:46 GMT -5
Well in terms of chord progression...all three have the same verse chord progression. i-bVII-bVI-bVII...or in Major: vi-V-IV-V. And they're all in the same key. So they're all Bb minor-Ab Major-Gb Major. In the case of "Hemorrhage" and "Last Stand," they both emphasize common tones on the high B and E strings (each tuned down a half-step) in their arpeggiations to create a variety of suspended and 6th chords. All 3 songs start their choruses on Gb Major.
That said I really like "Hemorrhage," partly because it came first, and these other songs are the imitators; but also because its chord voicings are way more interesting and dissonant, "Hemorrhage" is such an intriguing and non-cliché song title, and the lyrics are way more interesting as well. "Memories are just where you laid them/Drag the waters 'til the depths give up their dead." Such an awesome visual and a poetic way of putting it.
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Post by pen on Dec 17, 2009 21:33:51 GMT -5
None of them sound the same to me, but I guess you have more experience in this than I do.
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Post by metalfan87 on Jan 5, 2010 12:28:42 GMT -5
goes for adds February 1st.
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Post by Cody on Jan 5, 2010 14:44:43 GMT -5
ok this song sounds like a CHR smash
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Jan 25, 2010 19:24:04 GMT -5
when I first heard the song, the first riffs sounded like "It's Not Over" by Daughtry which means they would also sound like Fuel's Hemorrhage when i first heard the song, actually the first 2 seconds, reminded me of 3 Doors Down's Here Without You! great song, that adelitas way really is a promising band!
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Jan 25, 2010 20:17:46 GMT -5
I like this one...I have to agree that I hear the 3 Doors Down at the beginning though, not that it makes the song any better or worse for it. I've heard 1000's of different songs in all the songs I listen to. I don't really care if riffs are slightly borrowed, especially when most of time its totally unintentional. I'm sure the other artists disagree with me though, lol. I only find it offensive if its completely obvious that the song is ripped off (that doesn't include sampling by artists, totally different). Used correctly, sampling can make for some fun songs.
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Post by metalfan87 on Jan 31, 2010 18:51:35 GMT -5
top 50 in Active
56 50 ADELITAS WAY Last Stand 84 64 20 0.128
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Post by Cody on Jan 31, 2010 19:16:48 GMT -5
sweet
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jan 31, 2010 23:20:11 GMT -5
So it now takes less than 100 spins to make Top 50 on Active? Interesting.
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Feb 21, 2010 15:30:38 GMT -5
what the heck is happening with that song?
don't tell me is having troubles to reach the top 40?
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Post by lockebox on Feb 23, 2010 12:41:42 GMT -5
what the heck is happening with that song? don't tell me is having troubles to reach the top 40? 44 42 ADELITAS WAY - Last Stand 204 180 24 0.268 I'm still anticipating a "100 in a 55" like run for this.
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Feb 23, 2010 13:04:59 GMT -5
that is update is pathetic (thanks though!)
that is a really great song
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Post by lockebox on Feb 24, 2010 10:17:33 GMT -5
This is going for Alt. adds on March 16th.
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Post by metalfan87 on Feb 24, 2010 10:23:33 GMT -5
it might not do well on Alternative
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Post by lockebox on Feb 24, 2010 10:27:21 GMT -5
It could get top 30 if lucky.
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Post by metalfan87 on Feb 24, 2010 10:55:51 GMT -5
It could get top 30 if lucky. it could go close to top 40
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Feb 24, 2010 11:20:22 GMT -5
it might not do well on Alternative Invincible never hit Alt, and that was the only other single.
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Feb 27, 2010 18:47:06 GMT -5
after hearing their entire album for the first time, i believe that 3-4 songs can become huge in here, "Hate Love", "Brother" are some of those
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Post by metalfan87 on Feb 28, 2010 19:53:04 GMT -5
top 40 in Active
42 39 ADELITAS WAY Last Stand 224 197 27 0.317
bout time
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Feb 28, 2010 20:17:57 GMT -5
top 40 in Active 42 39 ADELITAS WAY Last Stand 224 197 27 0.317 bout time oh yeah!!! FINALLY!
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Post by metalfan87 on Mar 2, 2010 7:45:52 GMT -5
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Mar 4, 2010 13:35:09 GMT -5
yeah! every time i hear this song, it makes me think that this song will going to have a similar trajectory with Hinder's "Lips of an Angel", both songs belong to the softest part of their albums, both songs released as a second single, with the first being a rocker tune, lips of an angel needed some time to find a rhythm in the mainstream rock chart, eventually it peaked at #3 i think, and some weeks after it peaked at rock stations (something that might happen with last stand) finally hinder made the big step and they went on to release lips of an angel on pop stations, i'm wondering if adelitas way will attempt to do same thing, good luck u guys!
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