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Post by rince25 on Jan 4, 2010 12:43:07 GMT -5
MTV News article about the new album: www.mtv.com/news/articles/1625535/20091104/archuleta__david.jhtml"David spent a fruitful week in Nashville working with Joy Williams, Matt Wertz and Mat Kearney producer Robert Marvin (who recently spilled/tweeted the beans on two song titles, "Falling Awake" and "Sooner or Later") and from what Archuleta told us, it was a liberating experience. "In other songwriting sessions I might have had, I was feeling so much pressure. 'Oh, we have to get something done, this isn't good as it should be.' But I wasn't worried about any of that while I've been writing so far." After Nashville, Archuleta spent some time in New York City with songwriter/producer Jeymes Samuel, who has worked with KT Tunstall, Mr Hudson and, oddly enough, Gorillaz. When asked if he would ever want to collaborate with Damon Albarn's supergroup, Archie laughed, "I don't think they'd want me." Songwriters that have confirmed working with David on his second album: Matt Wertz This one is one I wrote with David Archuletta for his record, but i'm not sure if he'll record it. If he doesn't, i'm kinda thinking about putting it on my album- It's called 'Best Behavior' and it's sassy. mattwertz.com/#/news/206Jesse McCartney Jive Records just reached out to me last week and they want me to write for David Archuleta’s new album. www.mybuffalo.com/_An-Interview-w....0349/85283.htmlVictoria Horn @msflipflip so far I've written 4 songs with david and matt squire and it looks like we're back in the studio again in Feb.. txs about 4 hours ago from web in reply to Msflipflip twitter.com/LadyVmusic
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Post by « ƒƦǫɠ » on Jan 4, 2010 13:36:46 GMT -5
cool cant wait to see what they come up with
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Post by Sara on Jan 4, 2010 13:38:00 GMT -5
Yay for this thread being re-opened! :) I'm really excited. I'm hoping that he's going to start getting back into it shortly. I want tweets and vlogs and all that fun stuff about the process.
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Post by rince25 on Jan 4, 2010 13:42:58 GMT -5
Yay for this thread being re-opened! :) I'm really excited. I'm hoping that he's going to start getting back into it shortly. I want tweets and vlogs and all that fun stuff about the process. Yes!! I want him to do some in studio vlogs. He said he wanted to do some a while ago.
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Post by Sara on Jan 4, 2010 15:23:11 GMT -5
Yes!! I want him to do some in studio vlogs. He said he wanted to do some a while ago. That'd be awesome. I'm so glad he has Twitter so we can keep up on what he's working on. I'm curious to see who else he writes with.
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Post by Rurry on Jan 4, 2010 15:28:44 GMT -5
CANT WAIT Fingers crossed for a quick release He's been working on songs for forever so hopefully the writing process is almost done & he just has to pick and record the songs him and the label choose. Anyway he's worked with quite a diverse group of writers...should be interesting to see what the end result is like.
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Post by esoteric76 on Jan 4, 2010 17:30:10 GMT -5
"David spent a fruitful week in Nashville working with Joy Williams, Joy is one of my favorite artists. She writes some amazing songs and I can only imagine how good this pairing would be.
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Jan 4, 2010 18:03:40 GMT -5
"David spent a fruitful week in Nashville working with Joy Williams, Joy is one of my favorite artists. She writes some amazing songs and I can only imagine how good this pairing would be. I think Joy's husband tweeted something like, "see you in February" so I think he's going back in Feb to work with her some more.
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Post by davidprincess on Jan 5, 2010 14:21:44 GMT -5
Let's hope for a great album. :) I think his album might be more alternative with a mix of pop/rockindie, because that's the kind of music that David likes; and himself has said that he wants more songs written by him on the album. As long as the songs are catchy and nice, I'm okay with the genre or style. Because you know, if the song is alternative but it's catchy and good, the song will be a hit no matter what! Also it would be cool if he learns new dance moves and practices more. The more he practices, the more he will improve his dance moves and he will look cooler and more natural when he dances.
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Post by violet on Jan 5, 2010 14:24:34 GMT -5
Wow - a new thread and I didn't even know. Some recent David quotes from interviews, mostly about the music and the new album, but this first one is just nice. From Parade www.parade.com/celebrity/2009/12/david-archuleta.html“I certainly don’t see myself as perfect,” he says. “I have my faults. There are plenty of them. I take longer to do things than most people. I forget things a lot. I’m clumsy. I spill my lunch. I think imperfections make us who we are. That’s what makes us unique.” [...] Archuleta credits his broad and devoted fan base to factors other than his talent and charm. It's the music and American Idol, he says. "A lot of people watch that show, and it's such a diverse audience. Families watch the show - all ages," he says. "I think people give music they normally wouldn't listen to a chance. It's also a great example of the idea that music doesn't have boundaries. I wouldn't want my music to be enjoyed only by one group." From Cleveland Plain Dealer www.cleveland.com/popmusic/index.ssf/2009/12/david_archuleta_spreads_holida.htmlThis year, I really focused on journal writing. I was like, "I need to record what I've been doing, so my kids can know my story." Next year, I want to focus on songwriting. I want to write as much as I can. Right after the holidays, I'm going to be working on my next album. . . . I'm hoping to show more of myself. What I've been trying to do in the writing is show more of my personality, what's on my mind, my creative side and my realistic side -- just showing people more of who I am. Another goal is to learn to play guitar better. From They Will Rock You theywillrockyou.com/2009/12/happy-holidays-interview-david-archuleta/Question: I wanted to ask about the plans for your next album. I know that in recent weeks you’ve been working with songwriters in Nashville and New York. It sounds like the writing sessions so far have been really positive, and that you’re enjoying the freedom of having a looser deadline with this album, is that right? Answer: Yeah. It’s really nice, because you’re not worried that, “Oh, this song isn’t good enough, and it needs to be a smash hit, and we need to finish it by the end of the day.” It’s just, “Ok, let’s see what we can do, let’s see what we can come up with, let’s see if you connect with the song. ” And that’s what I want to do more of. The goal for me is to show more of my personality in the songs, and say, “Hey, this is who I am, this is what I like to talk about, and this is what’s on my mind.” I mean, it’s not like I have this specific thing that I want to do, and that I already know what the album’s going to sound like, and what songs are going to be on it. It’s pretty unpredictable, and I’m still learning. But I’ve been enjoying just taking things a lot easier this time around. Question: You’ve hinted that the next album might include different styles of music. I know that Latin music was a big part of your background growing up. Is there a chance that some of the new material might have a bit of a Latin influence? Answer: I haven’t thought about that really. I think the album’s still going to be pop, but with more of my personality instead of someone else’s personality. I don’t know how much of my own material will make it on the album, because in the end, they’re concerned about the best songs being on there. I’m just trying my best to see if any of the songs I write end up being among those best songs. I’m hoping for that, because I feel like the more of me that’s on the album, the more honest it is, and the more people can relate to it, because people can feel that connection with you and your songs. So, I’m just hoping for the best in the writing process. From Mundelein ReviewHe’s working on another album, which he said won’t be drastically different from his first, but he hopes to do more of the songwriting. He’s been spending time in Nashville lately with songwriters to learn the artform. “I’ve learned a lot,” he said. “I’m really happy with the songs I’m working on. It’s about more than writing these big, smash radio hits, but how to show people what’s in my mind, my personality. I want people to understand who I am. The things I think about, what I want to talk about. I kind of want more songs that make people feel good. That make them say, ‘Hey, there’s a lot of good in this life.’” From California Chronicle www.californiachronicle.com/articles/yb/138811047Asked whether that disc also will be pop, he says, "It has more of my personality. I mean, I'm kind of quirky person. ... And I want to be that with my music. It's not like I'm this deep, dark, mysterious person." (and re his Disney and Idol image) "I guess my image just fits that," he says with a laugh. "I haven't really tried to do the Disney thing; I guess I just automatically had that kind of image. I guess I try to keep a pretty clean image, and my music is very pop and stuff. I'm happy to know that my music is OK for kids." But he's also aware of the limitations of being a Disney star, and says older fans come to his shows, too. "I mean, half of them are kids and then the other half is, I guess, from the 'American Idol' audience, just a lot of older people, too," he says. "My music is for anyone who wants to enjoy the music." And while Archuleta says he's indebted to "Idol," he also says he hopes to move beyond that image, as well. "That's what people [focus on], 'cause they're the ones who voted for me and allowed me to do this," he says. "But the reason I wanted to do 'American Idol' was so I could be able to do my own career. So it's not like I want to be, 'Hi, I'm from American Idol.' ... I'm hoping that people will be able to say, 'Hey, David Archuleta,' just to be known for your hard work; to be respected as an artist." From a Westbury interview (link no longer works) Are you already working on your next pop album? I am. I've already been working on writing and stuff. After the holidays, I'll be kicking into the next gear on recording. . . . It's kind of nice that we're not as rushed as the last two albums. It's nice to be able to just focus on that. I want to show my personality. I'm a quirky, little, geeky kind of kid. That's who I am, and I want to show that. I'm not perfect, and I'm kind of weird, but hey, that's me.
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Post by violet on Jan 6, 2010 19:07:53 GMT -5
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Post by rince25 on Jan 6, 2010 20:19:51 GMT -5
Let's hope for a great album. :) I think his album might be more alternative with a mix of pop/rockindie, because that's the kind of music that David likes; and himself has said that he wants more songs written by him on the album. As long as the songs are catchy and nice, I'm okay with the genre or style. Because you know, if the song is alternative but it's catchy and good, the song will be a hit no matter what! Also it would be cool if he learns new dance moves and practices more. The more he practices, the more he will improve his dance moves and he will look cooler and more natural when he dances. David doesn't have an "indie" voice. He has a soul voice. As long as the songs suit that soulful quality in his voice, I think he'll be fine. And I don't think he needs dance moves. that would be moving into justin beiber swagger coach territory which should be avoided at all costs.
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Post by davidprincess on Jan 6, 2010 21:57:17 GMT -5
Let's hope for a great album. :) I think his album might be more alternative with a mix of pop/rockindie, because that's the kind of music that David likes; and himself has said that he wants more songs written by him on the album. As long as the songs are catchy and nice, I'm okay with the genre or style. Because you know, if the song is alternative but it's catchy and good, the song will be a hit no matter what! Also it would be cool if he learns new dance moves and practices more. The more he practices, the more he will improve his dance moves and he will look cooler and more natural when he dances. David doesn't have an "indie" voice. He has a soul voice. As long as the songs suit that soulful quality in his voice, I think he'll be fine. And I don't think he needs dance moves. that would be moving into justin beiber swagger coach territory which should be avoided at all costs. Yes he has a soulful voice ;) but according to him, he wants more of his personal sound in his new album, so if it's like that, I think most of the songs witten by him might be alternative/indie/soulful. (Ex: John Mayer, Jason Mrz, Rock Summer, Colbie Calliet, Sarah Barreiles kind of music. I can see that he loves the indie music so much. Everytime he covers a song, I see that he prefers to cover an alternative song instead of a good R&B song. About the dance moves: I respect your opinion, but David is an artist and a pop star, and artists and pop stars should know how to dance and sing at the same time. Remember, He has been criticized because before he didn't move on the stage. However, he is gaining more confidence now, and I have seen him dancing Zero Gravity and works for me, so now he is dancing more. That's why I suggest him that he should improve his dance moves, so that he can dance so much better the upbeat songs.. Also if he learned some break-dance moves would be great too.
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Post by violet on Jan 7, 2010 3:22:39 GMT -5
Oh please no breakdance moves. But I agree that David usually picks stuff like that when he does a cover. However I wouldn't call it Indie really. He has not covered Rocket Summer. The ones he actually has covered are mostly mainstream Top 40 artists who just don't fit in the pigeonholes of bubblegum, urban, R&B or dance music. They are similar to what David likes about the UK where he said pop can just be pop. I would like him to do stuff like that. The trick is to keep it from being crapped up with overlaid tracks and weird sound effects. I hope David can get more involved in the final sound of the tracks because most of those covers we have loved have been sparsely accompanied so David wasn't boxed in. Nothing p's me off more than to hear him trapped within the 4 beats per measure like he is in the recorded versions of many songs. I think they do that so they can do cookie cutter editing. That's why he is so much better live where he doesn't have to stay inside the lines.
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Post by baobabs727 on Jan 7, 2010 3:44:16 GMT -5
Eureka!
Recently, I read that one of David's biggest fans is of the opinion that David will never be a "major star," that David doesn't even want to be a "major star," that Jive should just give up on trying to make David into a "major star," that all hope of sustained, commercial "success" in future will most certainly be lost should Jive and current management continue to involve themselves in David's career, that David should be relegated to some darkened room to write his "silly" songs (ostensibly in place of Jive hiring professional song-writers) for pop album #2, and so on. How depressing.
And speaking of popular album #2, in my view there remain three (3) items of interest: 1) Stellar song-writing 2) Competent production 3) Adequate promotion
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Post by Rurry on Jan 7, 2010 15:52:12 GMT -5
He doesn't need to dance. Not every artist has to be a great dancer LOL ??? Dancing is not his "thing", he doesn't need to force it on himself to try and be "cool" (see: Justin Bieber). I'd rather him stay true to himself than transform himself into some assembly line bubblegum pop artist.
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Jan 7, 2010 16:42:56 GMT -5
OMG, if David ever gets a swagger coach... That's like the epitome of manufactured. I'd rather see artists sink or swim (or both) based on who they really are, not what some label or manager or agent tries to make them. David shouldn't start dancing around the stage just because some pre-pubescent teen dream with silly hair and an attitude is making the 12-year-olds swoon. Anybody over a certain age would look at Justin Beiber and his performances of "No Air" with Jordin Sparks and smirk at the ridiculousness of it all. That's what having a swagger coach gets you--Justin believes he can pull off the baby pimp thing, when he just winds up looking dumb. I don't think David will ever be supersmashstar level. I'm not sure why every artist needs to be at that fame level in order to be considered successful. If David wanted that, he would be directing his own career differently. Look at Adam Lambert--he wants that kind of fame; you can tell; he eats up the attention. So that's how he's directing his own career--towards that fame (whether he gets it or not is still an open question). That means his albums will probably all be geared towards smash hit CHR singles, big-name writers & producers, and the latest CHR trend. From what David has said in recent interviews, it sounds like he doesn't give a damn about the latest CHR trend. He's said that he feels free with his co-writers in Nashville because they're not forcing him to write specifically for radio. In that way, his attitude mirrors that of Jason Mraz. Mraz was a CHR success in 2008 by accident. "I'm Yours" didn't fit CHR, and Mraz doesn't give a crap about what does fit CHR, or any other radio format. He writes for himself, and if people don't like it, they don't like it. If they do, then great. As Mraz seems to be a big influence on David, I'm not surprised that David probably has the same attitude. If David ever achieves in the future what Mraz has on mainstream radio (thus catapulting Mraz from a cult following to a mass following), it'll be an exception to the norm, rather than the rule. But David also understands that he's with Jive, and has mentioned a few times that he'll have to compromise. So there will be CHR-ready songs on his album. But I don't think David is actively trying to write those particular songs. If he happens to write one, by chance, then great for Jive. In my opinion, to be a supersmashstar, most of the time you have to really want that. You have to do the things that will get you there, regardless of whether that means changing who you are. I don't think David can become a huge mega-star without wanting to be one, and it's pretty clear that he doesn't really strive for that. Sorry, long post is long.
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Post by praepos on Jan 7, 2010 16:47:43 GMT -5
Actually there's a natural grace to his live performances that approaches dancing. He doesn't need to look studied--though learning a few dance moves in his spare time can't hurt if they're assimilated as part of a natural repertoire. Anything like breakdancing would be ridiculous. As for the naysaying "fan" who worries about David's ultimate success--he or she needs to relax and enjoy the ride--because David's going to be around for a long time. Going into his second year since season 7, he's successfully consolidated his reputation. I'm sure his label is appreciative. He hasn't even begun to tap into his Latino potential either--so there's plenty of room for growth in a lot of new directions in the years ahead.
As for superstardom--I think it's a phenomenon of nature--not something somebody consciously pursues. Adam may want it--but unless he can generate love on a massive scale--it won't happen. I don't think RCA with all its hype and big bucks can make it happen either.
There really IS an x-factor--a charismatic something nobody can quite describe. With the really great stars--Sinatra, Elvis, the Beatles--the love affair was always intensely mutual. David certainly is loved by his fans in much the same way--and he returns this consciously--which may be one reason he's moving musically in an autobiographical, intensely personal direction. It's a way to really give of himself to his fans. But he's also just at the beginning of something--so it would be silly to think the excitement he generates is in the same class--since it's all on such a limited scale. Still, all the great ones started as teen idols and won their generation of fans for a lifetime. I think this is the case with David as well--so something huge could happen. It's not out of the realm of the possible.
Of course Sinatra, Elvis and the Beatles matured their art as time went on--expanding their bases and creating the taste whereby they were appreciated. They never were "just" singers. They were always superb musicians as well, their artistry evolving over decades. The same will happen with David, though how he resolves the tension between his faith and his art may determine ultimately how bright his star will shine.
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Post by violet on Jan 7, 2010 17:33:57 GMT -5
David's first single was released before his album. Is that typical for pop albums or just an Idol first album thing? Because I can't wait to hear some of whatever he's doing.
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Jan 7, 2010 17:39:17 GMT -5
David's first single was released before his album. Is that typical for pop albums or just an Idol first album thing? Because I can't wait to hear some of whatever he's doing. It's very typical. We'll be getting David's first single probably a month and a half to two months before the album comes out.
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Jan 7, 2010 17:43:49 GMT -5
Of course Sinatra, Elvis and the Beatles matured their art as time went on--expanding their bases and creating the taste whereby they were appreciated. They never were "just" singers. Their artistry evolved over decades. The same will happen with David, though how he resolves the tension between his faith and his art may determine ultimately how bright his star will shine. I'm not getting why there's a "tension" between his faith and his art?
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Post by praepos on Jan 7, 2010 19:17:25 GMT -5
The popular culture and religious culture are world's apart. Right now as an innocent teen that's no big problem. How he can belong to both simultaneously will be the challenge as he matures. It's not only a matter of the music he creates--but how he is himself perceived by the public. David needs to transcend the Donny Osmond stereotype if he's going to be taken seriously as an artist.
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Jan 7, 2010 19:19:42 GMT -5
The popular culture and religious culture are world's apart. Right now as a teen that's no big problem. How he can belong to both simultaneously will be the challenge as he matures. Uh... David doesn't even overtly talk about his religion. And loads of artists are religious. Are you talking about something specifically, because I'm not getting it?
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Post by praepos on Jan 7, 2010 19:35:46 GMT -5
He doesn't have to talk about his religion. It's his persona right now. His innocence was described by the NYTimes as "preternatural." That's how he's presently perceived. I find it hard to believe you don't get this.
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Jan 7, 2010 19:54:49 GMT -5
He doesn't have to talk about his religion. It's his persona right now. His innocence was described by the NYTimes as "preternatural." That's how he's presently perceived. I find it hard to believe you don't get this. I don't get your point because you're not really explaining it. Acting in a way he believes is moral doesn't mean his religion blinds him to the ways of the world. People can mistake personal morality with innocence. And neither personal morality nor innocence must be derived entirely from religion. You can be non-religious and still hold the same personal moral beliefs about the proper way to act and present yourself. I don't get what any of that has to do with his future career, though. David isn't naive--when speaking about the music industry, he's remarkably pragmatic and aware. There are certain things he probably will never sing about, but who cares? The world is full of things to sing about.
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Post by davidprincess on Jan 7, 2010 19:58:31 GMT -5
Of course he needs to dance the upbeat songs! that's why he should practice his dance moves more because he likes dancing 'works for me, touch my hand, zero gravity, feliz Navidad. Also I didn't say that he must have the Chris Brown or the Justin Bieber's dancing skills, I was just recomending that he should practice more to improve his dance moves. I strongly disagree with you if you think that dancing would make him look fake or not real. Now the break dance moves was only a joke But anyway, there's nothing wrong if David learned some breakdance moves. :) It's always great to know different kind of dance moves. ;) P.S: In other things, David doesn't have to change his good morals to be more famous and successful. I think his nice personality is part of his charm, and that's why people loves him and admires him so much. I hope he never changes. Also I think he is doing well, He just started in 2008 and he has already sold almost a million of records to date. I'm so proud of him. :)
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Post by praepos on Jan 7, 2010 20:12:50 GMT -5
I don't think I'm the one confused. David from the outset has been perceived as this nice Mormon kid--not unlike Donny Osmond. His high moral character is inseparable from that perception. That wouldn't be a problem for him right now--but it will be as he gets older, given the pop culture. Not that he won't find a niche and be a commercial success and have a good career in general. But we were talking about superstardom, remember?
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Jan 7, 2010 21:31:40 GMT -5
I don't think I'm the one confused. David from the outset has been perceived as this nice Mormon kid--not unlike Donny Osmond. His high moral character is inseparable from that perception. That wouldn't be a problem for him right now--but it will be as he gets older, given the pop culture. Not that he won't find a niche and be a commercial success and have a good career in general. But we were talking about superstardom, remember? My response disagrees with your point as you've stated it now. I had to assume your point until you explained, but since I was right about my assumption, I'm not confused--I just disagree. Donny Osmond sang cheesy tunes from the get go, and had a cheesy variety show with his sister. I don't think his pop culture status was earned because he was a good Mormon, but because of the product he put out. If David doesn't put out cheesy product, I don't see the problem. It's not like he's the only Mormon in entertainment (far from it). David will or won't achieve superstardom, (1) based on what he wants, (2) based on whether the product he wants to put out consistently fits the current trend, (3) based on whether his management can get him in the public eye a lot, and (4) luck. Most musicians don't fit the current trend simply because they don't want to. If David winds up going in a direction away from what CHR is playing (e.g., like Jason Mraz, Sara Bareilles, Matt Wertz, Mat Kearney, etc.) it'll be because that's the music he wants to make, not because his moral code put him in some niche.
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Post by praepos on Jan 7, 2010 23:51:32 GMT -5
Two points. First, my view is that a strong religious commitment is an inhibiting factor for artists. You yourself point out that there are certain things that David will probably never sing about--and that's pretty much what I see as a problem--though I'm not suggesting David choose his art over his faith. But there IS a tension. David has countless times shown that he has it in him to explore some of the darker aspects of life. He did a great studio job with Desperate, for instance--but he avoids singing it on tour--and when he did sing it that one time, he held back emotionally. I think there's a moral confusion deep down somewhere--which he hasn't quite sorted out. And I think his personal religious code is a factor in that.
My other point is that I think most superstars are primarily symbolic figures who answer some need in the public psyche at a given period in history. I don't think this can be manufactured by the industry itself in any way and I don't think the artist can will it to happen. It's simply not in their power. Luck has something to do with it--but only peripherally. It's all about social and psychological forces that intersect with the pop culture to produce a greater-than-normal popularity.
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Post by rince25 on Jan 8, 2010 0:06:51 GMT -5
I don't think his religion inhibits him. People are allowed to be desperate in Mormonism. lol He just doesn't want to sing that song because it's a dark song and he's not a dark person. Jason Mraz, Colbie Caillat, and lots of other artists avoid dark subject matter because that's just not their style. It has nothing to do with their religious views.
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